Polian says's draft Barkley!

[Nesjan3]

I dont have a source just seen it while watching NFL Live.

I always respect the opinion of former general managers like Casserly and Polian. Just seen on NFL live Polian say'd that Barkley is game changer, he could make any offense in the league better. He say's as a GM you can't pass on players like him, he doesn't think he gets past the Giants but if he does the Colts absolutely should be drafting him because the whole league knows that TY is our only playmaker!

 

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

I dont have a source just seen it while watching NFL Live.

I always respect the opinion of former general managers like Casserly and Polian. Just seen on NFL live Polian say'd that Barkley is game changer, he could make any offense in the league better. He say's as a GM you can't pass on players like him, he doesn't think he gets past the Giants but if he does the Colts absolutely should be drafting him because the whole league knows that TY is our only playmaker!

 

Doesn’t change anything for me

[Finball]

Polian was a great GM.

 

That said, Polian says a lot of things these days.

[SolidGold]

2 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

I dont have a source just seen it while watching NFL Live.

I always respect the opinion of former general managers like Casserly and Polian. Just seen on NFL live Polian say'd that Barkley is game changer, he could make any offense in the league better. He say's as a GM you can't pass on players like him, he doesn't think he gets past the Giants but if he does the Colts absolutely should be drafting him because the whole league knows that TY is our only playmaker!

 

He was having a senior citizen moment. He meant Quenton Nelson

[Nesjan3]

Giants will take him and we will receive multiple offers from a team looking for a QB i think.

[2006Coltsbestever]

As our old PA announcer used to say -Edgerrin James on the carry for 5, James. Now we can say  Saquon Barkley for 5, Barkley!

[Aluckiswolverine]

Polian also says 6 ft 3 in Lamar Jackson is to short to play QB in the NFL. 

 

The game has evolved since Polian he’s just another talking head to me. 

[Flash7]

I would love to have Barkley on the Colts, but our defense ranked #31 last year. They were bad all across the board, and especially not effective at rushing the passer.

 

Let's focus on making the Colts a well-balanced team. Let's stay the course and continue to add to the defense. If we make improvements on offense, we should definitely focus on the OL. The offensive skill positions can be advanced through FA or later rounds in the draft.

[Boiler_Colt]

Polian also said Trent Richardson was can't miss

[boo2202]

8 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

I would love to have Barkley on the Colts, but our defense ranked #31 last year. They were bad all across the board, and especially not effective at rushing the passer.

 

Let's focus on making the Colts a well-balanced team. Let's stay the course and continue to add to the defense. If we make improvements on offense, we should definitely focus on the OL. The offensive skill positions can be advanced through FA or later rounds in the draft.

Our offensive rankings

points: 30th

total yards: 31st

pass yards: 30th

rush yards: 22nd

sack allowed: 29th

 

These are just a few. I hope we don't go all defense in the draft. The offense lacks playmakers outside of ty. Our line is a sight for sore eyes also. Getting luck back is great but we need to protect him and also surround him with better talent. 

[21isSuperman]

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/trent_richardson_a_sure_thing.html

 

Not to say Barkley is going to be a bust or anything, but just because Polian said something, doesn't mean it's true

[NewColtsFan]

 

I'm not at all surprised to hear this....

 

I've heard Polian say many times,  the RB makes the O-line,  the O-line doesn't make the RB.

 

I'll just say that I respectfully disagree,  and I thnk it's clear that many NFL teams disagree as well.

 

 

[NewColtsFan]

1 minute ago, 21isSuperman said:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/trent_richardson_a_sure_thing.html

 

Not to say Barkley is going to be a bust or anything, but just because Polian said something, doesn't mean it's true

 

Polian wasn't alone on this one.    Lots of people thought Trent was the real deal coming out of college.

 

Turns out he wasn't mature enough for the NFL.     Was in over his head and didn't know how to be a professional.

 

As he result,  he had a terrible and short career.

 

[krunk]

I don't think it's surprising to hear the man that drafted Edgerrin James say to draft  Saquon Barkley. 

[BleedBlu8792]

10 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm not at all surprised to hear this....

 

I've heard Polian say many times,  the RB makes the O-line,  the O-line doesn't make the RB.

 

I'll just say that I respectfully disagree,  and I thnk it's clear that many NFL teams disagree as well.

 

 

 

That's just not true. I wasn't much of a Polian fan anyways, but does he not remember the line that was blocking for Edgerrin? Hell, I'd almost wager that's why he let Edgerrin walk after 05' and chose to keep Reggie. Sure enough, Addai and Rhodes had no issues with carrying the load because they had the OL to make it happen. 

[krunk]

Again I want Bradley Chubb, but if we draft Barkley I won't be angry in the least bit.  Hell of a football player. 

[Reboot]

16 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm not at all surprised to hear this....

 

I've heard Polian say many times,  the RB makes the O-line,  the O-line doesn't make the RB.

 

I'll just say that I respectfully disagree,  and I thnk it's clear that many NFL teams disagree as well.

 

 

Polian spent five first round picks on RBs in his career - so he kinda has to say the RB makes the line. 

 

Edge, Addai, Brown with the Colts, Biakabutuka with the Panthers, and Ronnie Harmon with the Bills.  For those who care, Thurman Thomas slipped into the second round after an injury, or it really could have been 6.  I'd say Bill liked his RBs...  

[GoColts00]

Says the former GM that couldn't put a defense on the field to complement Manning & Co. I blame Polian for the Colts only winning 1 SB while Manning was here.

[Dark Superman]

Barkley will be gone by 3.

We're stuck with ChubbaMania!

[richard pallo]

NFL teams agree with Polian.  You don't pass on game changers.  RB's  have been drafted very high in the last few years. This year will be no exception.  It's a strong class and if you need a RB you would be foolish to try and wait until the 3rd. or 4th. rd.  We made that mistake last year.  The potential difference makers will all be gone in the first two RDs. It's a copy cat league.  And everyone has seen how those backs drafted early in recent years have turned out to be great picks.  I wouldn't be surprised if we see a run on RB's in the 1st. RD. 

[NewColtsFan]

33 minutes ago, BleedBlu8792 said:

 

That's just not true. I wasn't much of a Polian fan anyways, but does he not remember the line that was blocking for Edgerrin? Hell, I'd almost wager that's why he let Edgerrin walk after 05' and chose to keep Reggie. Sure enough, Addai and Rhodes had no issues with carrying the load because they had the OL to make it happen. 

 

I don't believe it either....

 

But the topic has come up the last three years as Gurley, Elliott,  Fournette and even McCaffrey have gone top-10.

 

And each year I've personally heard Polian say the same thing...     the RB makes the line,  the line does not make the RB.      I respectfully disagree with him,   but Polian is in the HoF and I'm (for some strange reason)  not.

 

 

[LJpalmbeacher2]

22 minutes ago, GoColts00 said:

Says the former GM that couldn't put a defense on the field to complement Manning & Co. I blame Polian for the Colts only winning 1 SB while Manning was here.

 

I blame all the choke jobs the Offense did in the playoffs.

[richard pallo]

48 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/trent_richardson_a_sure_thing.html

 

Not to say Barkley is going to be a bust or anything, but just because Polian said something, doesn't mean it's true

No it doesn't.  But I would trust his opinion and valuation more than any poster on this forum.  Hands down.  

[LJpalmbeacher2]

2 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I don't believe it either....

 

But the topic has come up the last three years as Gurley, Elliott,  Fournette and even McCaffrey have gone top-10.

 

And each year I've personally heard Polian say the same thing...     the RB makes the line,  the line does not make the RB.      I respectfully disagree with him,   but Polian is in the HoF and I'm (for some strange reason)  not.

 

 

 

If this Forum had a HOF you at the very least be nominated.

[NewColtsFan]

 

Not that anyone cares,  but for the record,  while I still strongly oppose the idea of drafting Barkley (I'd like to get our next RB at the top of the 4th R)   I've soften my opposition to drafting Barkley.

 

I've said I'll support the pick because I trust Ballard....

 

But,  I'd add this.....

 

I did not object to the Rams taking Gurley at 10,  or the Cowboys taking Zeke at 4,  or Fournette going 4 to the Jags, or McCaffrey 8 to the Panthers....       But the difference with Barkley is this...

 

None of those players,  those running backs,  were considered the best overall player in their respective draft.

 

Barkley is.      This was supposed to be the Year of the QB.     The Best QB Class since '83.     And NONE OF THEM are ranked as high as Barkley.      Barkley is the consensus number one player in this draft.

 

So, if he's there at 3,  and Ballard decides to take him,   I'll support the pick.   I think complaining about taking the consenses best player in the draft 3rd overall is a bit of a Fool's Errand.    A waste of time.    It would NOT be my choice.   But I'll support it.

 

[NewColtsFan]

2 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

If this Forum had a HOF you at the very least be nominated.

 

You're incredibly kind to say that....    but I believe I can think of roughly a half-dozen posters who just threw-up in their mouth just reading your post!              

[The Peytonator]

Polian has a fetish for using first round draft picks on offensive skill position players. 

[GoColts00]

1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

I blame all the choke jobs the Offense did in the playoffs.

Great defenses will stymie a great offense. We never had a great defense to keep great offenses from scoring against us.

[Dark Superman]

Well seeing his draft history is anyone surprised? He went all in on offense and no defense and we all saw how that turned out. A lot of one and done's in the playoffs. 

[Dark Superman]

Colts had virtually an unstoppable offense in 2004 until they traveled to Foxborough.

Our defense was basically Dwight Freeney.

[DougDew]

At the time, Polian thought the Browns should draft Trent Richardson #3, and they did.  Just sayin

[BleedBlu8792]

12 minutes ago, DougDew said:

At the time, Polian thought the Browns should draft Trent Richardson #3, and they did.  Just sayin

Key words... the Browns

[nburgmei]

I won't be upset if we draft Barkley...however, I think doubling up on Chubbs is the best strategy. Chubb for the offense...Chubb for the defense.

[IndyScribe]

I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Barkley, but I'd prefer Chubb.

[jameszeigler834]

2 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Polian also said Trent Richardson was can't miss

This guy is a lot better than T-Rich Barkley isn't just a big back he is a fast power back and there is no comparison with him and Richardson cause Richardson was slow as crap and didn't have the power this guy does.

[Scott Pennock]

1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

 

I blame all the choke jobs the Offense did in the playoffs.

To be fair.....Vandershank choked more than Manning and the offense. 

[DougDew]

18 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said:

This guy is a lot better than T-Rich Barkley isn't just a big back he is a fast power back and there is no comparison with him and Richardson cause Richardson was slow as crap and didn't have the power this guy does.

TRich's problem was that he didn't care about working to become a professional.  I think he ran a very good 40 at the combine.

[Nesjan3]

I think all the references to Polian saying T-Rich was a stud is a bit unfair. Most people thought T-Rich was going to be good, its a clear reminder that nobody knows exactly how these players are going to turn out. 

 

That being said i don't think it's a secret that there is no comparison at all between T-Rich and Barkley. Fournette, Elliot and Gurley were all can't miss top tier running backs, but Barkley could be the best of the group, possibly the best since AP. 

 

I personally think if he drops to 3 we get lucky and would be stupid to pass on the pick, but i think the most likely scenario is either the Giants take him, or someone trades in to the top 2 for him. Leaving the Colts in a trade back situation to grab extra picks and hopefully Chubb or Nelson with a later pick.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

23 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said:

To be fair.....Vandershank choked more than Manning and the offense. 

 

Well there were like 20 One & Dones. I don't think we cam blame them all on vanderjagt.

But that kick vs steelers was the worst fg kick I ever seen. It was like a 'funny ball'

 

[Coltsman1788]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Polian wasn't alone on this one.    Lots of people thought Trent was the real deal coming out of college.

 

Turns out he wasn't mature enough for the NFL.     Was in over his head and didn't know how to be a professional.

 

As he result,  he had a terrible and short career.

 

I'll be honest and admit that when the Trent Richardson deal went down I was one happy son of a gun at the time.  I actually wanted him for awhile and when we got him I thought the Colts had finally found their star RB for Luck.  Man...was I mistaken.  Such a disappointment how that went for us.