Sean Payton vs. Chuck Pagano

[grmasterb]

24 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

I'm not a fan of Payton but he and just about anyone else is a upgrade over pagano 

Be serious. 

[VocableLoki]

1 hour ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

Sean Payton has an elite QB, and has missed the playoffs in consecutive years, in a bad division. And their defense is a joke. Sound familiar?

Good point.

[LockeDown]

If Payton is the mastermind behind Bree's hitting 5,000-6,000 yards every year, then that would be enticing( unless Brees can do that regardless), but the Saints and Colts need defense.  I would want a top D coordinator along with Payton....and I'm not talking about Rob Ryan.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

1 hour ago, grmasterb said:

Be serious. 

I am serious, are you?

Back to Back losing seasons (6-8 & 6-7) in a bad division. If your pleased with that that's fine BUT a lot of us ARE NOT!

[21isSuperman]

On 2016-12-27 at 1:40 PM, VocableLoki said:

This small blip from ESPN suggests the Saints would be open to moving Payton. It's been suggested over and over that Irsay wanted him last season, any chance we get him here now? http://www.espn.com/blog/buffalo-bills/post/_/id/26972/who-could-replace-rex-ryan

Merged

[jvan1973]

10 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

I am serious, are you?

Back to Back losing seasons (6-8 & 6-7) in a bad division. If your pleased with that that's fine BUT a lot of us ARE NOT!

Pretty sure the record was 8-8 the last two years.    Better than the saints BTW

[BOTT]

On 12/28/2016 at 10:27 AM, LJpalmbeacher said:

Over pagano,YES, in a heartbeat. But still hoping, praying for our elite dream coach.

I don't think Billy is leaving the patriots.

[jvan1973]

On 12/28/2016 at 10:27 AM, LJpalmbeacher said:

Over pagano,YES, in a heartbeat. But still hoping, praying for our elite dream coach.

Who is this mythical elite dream coach?

[IinD]

I'd take any SB winning coach over Chuck regardless of what you may think of them.

 

What's Don Shula up to these days? 

 

I'll take Payton all day.

[grmasterb]

33 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

I am serious, are you?

Back to Back losing seasons (6-8 & 6-7) in a bad division. If your pleased with that that's fine BUT a lot of us ARE NOT!

No fan is satisfied,  but it's ridiculous to say that "just about anyone else is an upgrade over Pagano."

[grmasterb]

12 minutes ago, IinD said:

I'd take any SB winning coach over Chuck regardless of what you may think of them.

 

What's Don Shula up to these days? 

 

I'll take Payton all day.

By that logic, Brian Billick was superior to Don Coryell.

[IinD]

Just now, grmasterb said:

By that logic, Brian Billick was superior to Don Coryell.

Both better then Chuck. 

 

I'd take Tom Landry at this point and he hasn't been around for a while...Lol

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, grmasterb said:

By that logic, Brian Billick was superior to Don Coryell.

 

I have serious beef with Don Coryell these days...

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, grmasterb said:

No fan is satisfied,  but it's ridiculous to say that "just about anyone else is an upgrade over Pagano."

 

Isn't it awesome how every time you point out a ridiculous comment, it HAS to mean that you're 'satisfied' with Pagano...?

[LJpalmbeacher2]

26 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Pretty sure the record was 8-8 the last two years.    Better than the saints BTW

I don't count preseason games AND I don't count meaningless games late in the season after we are basically eliminated from playoffs.

[jvan1973]

Just now, LJpalmbeacher said:

I don't count preseason games AND I don't count meaningless games late in the season after we are basically eliminated from playoffs.

It doesn't matter what you count.  The record is 8-8 both seasons.   

[LJpalmbeacher2]

25 minutes ago, BOTT said:

I don't think Billy is leaving the patriots.

I don't think Harbaugh is leaving Michigan or Meyer leaving Ohio St. or Saban leaving Bama but we can hope. I also hope we get to draft RB Cook......

[LJpalmbeacher2]

6 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

It doesn't matter what you count.  The record is 8-8 both seasons.   

Lol, you keep on thinking we had a good '15 & '16 seasons and that pagano is a good coach.

[jvan1973]

2 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

Lol, you keep on thinking we had a good '15 & '16 seasons and that pagano is a good coach.

I never said either of those things.   

[Coltswarriors]

Give me Josh McDaniels!

[Colts1324]

20 minutes ago, grmasterb said:

No fan is satisfied,  but it's ridiculous to say that "just about anyone else is an upgrade over Pagano."

Not really. Name a coach in the NFL that is worse. Jeff Fisher. But he got fired. And had no offense to work with at all. And plays in the toughest division. Hugh Jackson inherited a historically bad team in the browns. Pagano inherited a "once in a generation QB." 

[grmasterb]

2 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

Not really. Name a coach in the NFL that is worse. Jeff Fisher. But he got fired. And had no offense to work with at all. And plays in the toughest division. Hugh Jackson inherited a historically bad team in the browns. Pagano inherited a "once in a generation QB." 

The statement "just about anyone else is an upgrade over Pagano" is not limited to current NFL head coaches.

[Dark Superman]

Why are we even talking about Payton? He's still under contract with the Saints and we would have to make a trade in order to get him. I'm not willing to give up a high draft pick for a coach. We have too many holes to fill right now and need all the draft picks we can manage.

[NannyMcafee]

Please no. 

[King Colt]

Use the money for players first. We could get by with Pagano if there was a defense and OL.