amfootball Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 4h4 hours ago Non-Deflate-Gate Patriots' news: former New England and Buffalo LB Brandon Spikes is in Foxboro today for visit with Patriots, per source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 That's strange... Thought he hated them and smack talked them when they wouldn't re-sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 after all the crap he talkedForgot he was available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 That's strange... Thought he hated them and smack talked them when they wouldn't re-sign him.Yeah, me too. But bridges can be mended I suppose when you are out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Just wanted to make sure of something...........? Is this still a website for Colts fans? Are we allowed to post things too, or it now only about the Patriots? Seems like these ants are just never going to leave our picnic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 This would be more appropriate in the NFL General section. Interesting information, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Debonair Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Are him and DQ pretty much the same playerIt's posted here because posters here are obsessed with NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rock8591 Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 After Jamie Collins, Spikes was pretty much expendable. Faster 40 yard time, higher vertical, same body weight >>>>> extra 10 reps on the bench press. When you're 250 lbs and can hit fast at a 4.5x 40-yard-dash speed, it matters nothing what you can bench press. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Just wanted to make sure of something...........? Is this still a website for Colts fans? Are we allowed to post things too, or it now only about the Patriots? Seems like these ants are just never going to leave our picnic.....I posted because I know Colts fans at one point were interested in Spikes as a run stopper. I didn't realize he had not signed anywhere. Not sure the Pats will even take him back but he visited ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDakColts Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I am kind of surprised he hasn't generated more of a market. I figured by now he would of been snatched up by someone. I guess he pretty much is a one-trick pony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 I am kind of surprised he hasn't generated more of a market. I figured by now he would of been snatched up by someone. I guess he pretty much is a one-trick pony.I was surprised too which is why I posted the thread as I would have thought NE would not have been on his radar at all but perhaps no other teams wanted him. Buffalo had only signed him to a one year deal last year anyways. I think some of it may speak to the need in the NFL right now for LBs to be more athletic and be able to cover given all the guys in the backfield that can catch and the athletic TEs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 He's easily better than either of our starters. Unsurprisingly, the Colts aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Must be with all the teams lined up for the guy. I'll take DQ Freeman and Irving not big on the PED guys but I guess the grass is always greener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsColtsFan1 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I hope he signs back. He talked all that crap when he left and now he could potentially be back. I didn't ever care for the guy anyways, he belongs on the Pats imo lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDakColts Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 He's easily better than either of our starters. Unsurprisingly, the Colts aren't interested.He is only better than them at stopping the run, not the pass. That is why we are not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDakColts Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I was surprised too which is why I posted the thread as I would have thought NE would not have been on his radar at all but perhaps no other teams wanted him. Buffalo had only signed him to a one year deal last year anyways. I think some of it may speak to the need in the NFL right now for LBs to be more athletic and be able to cover given all the guys in the backfield that can catch and the athletic TEs.Yeah I figured that there was no way he would go back to NE and I thought NE would want no part of him either. I agree that the NFL wants more athletic LBs to cover TEs and RBs. Spikes would of been a good linebacker and a hot commodity 10 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#BringBobBack Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 4h4 hours agoNon-Deflate-Gate Patriots' news: former New England and Buffalo LB Brandon Spikes is in Foxboro today for visit with Patriots, per source.would be a solid signing for them LB depth is always a plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullsColtsFan1 Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Spikes did sign with the Pats today I believe. 1 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I was surprised too which is why I posted the thread as I would have thought NE would not have been on his radar at all but perhaps no other teams wanted him. Buffalo had only signed him to a one year deal last year anyways. I think some of it may speak to the need in the NFL right now for LBs to be more athletic and be able to cover given all the guys in the backfield that can catch and the athletic TEs. They are slowly putting the pieces of the puzzle together one by one like they always do. It's been interesting looking at all the different corners they've gotten rid of including today with Chekwa. It seems weird at a glance, but I was looking over some of the young guys they picked up in the draft and UDFA and I think they'll be alright. Guys like Daryl Roberts, Eric Patterson from Ball State, and King from Auburn are all big to decent sized corners who can run and play press man coverage. Add them to the mix of what they already have and I think the Pats will still be okay back there. Not as good as last year, but this game is about youth when it's all said and done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 It was just recently reported how Spikes rejoined the Pats and the story is quite interesting, http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/2015/05/29/brandon-spikes-and-the-hoodie-kissed-and-made/wBvjPZiy1B7JUO2hZzjdUL/story.html?p1=feature_sec_hp. Apparently it was Belichick that outreached to Spikes to see if he wanted to come back which surprised Spikes given how he left calling his time in NE "four years a slave." It is always amazing to me how stories like this don't even register with the media as it does not fi the narrative of Belichick being the cold blooded GM that just cuts guys once they are no longer of service to him. Spikes left NE in terrible fashion. Trashing the team on the way out. That was just one year ago. And here is Bill outreaching to him to mend the fences and bring him back to help the NE defense vs the rush. Belichick never gets enough credit IMO for his player relation skills which have served him well as GM over this unprecedented run the last 15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Just wanted to make sure of something...........?Is this still a website for Colts fans?Are we allowed to post things too, or it now only about the Patriots?Seems like these ants are just never going to leave our picnic..... Nope never :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 He's easily better than either of our starters. Unsurprisingly, the Colts aren't interested. hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 He's easily better than either of our starters. Unsurprisingly, the Colts aren't interested. Must be your opinion of him is a little higher than GMs in the NFL that could use another ILB ? I see he signed for around 1.2 mill .. just about the same money as Irvin received from the Colts. In any event , it doesn't look like he attracted a whole lot of attention when you look at his 1 year deal at that #. For what it's worth , I have a hard time understanding how one would consider him easily better than Freeman if healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted May 31, 2015 Author Share Posted May 31, 2015 Must be your opinion of him is a little higher than GMs in the NFL that could use another ILB ? I see he signed for around 1.2 mill .. just about the same money as Irvin received from the Colts. In any event , it doesn't look like he attracted a whole lot of attention when you look at his 1 year deal at that #. For what it's worth , I have a hard time understanding how one would consider him easily better than Freeman if healthy. His value went down IMO because he left NE like a punk and then had a sub par year in Buffalo. In addition, he can't cover but is a beast against the run. He will be great for us on obvious run downs but will be a part-time player. Typical Bill signing. Gets the value he needs cheap for a player that had no job offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 His value went down IMO because he left NE like a punk and then had a sub par year in Buffalo. In addition, he can't cover but is a beast against the run. He will be great for us on obvious run downs but will be a part-time player. Typical Bill signing. Gets the value he needs cheap for a player that had no job offer. He just a guy IMO. 2 down ILB as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Must be your opinion of him is a little higher than GMs in the NFL that could use another ILB ? I see he signed for around 1.2 mill .. just about the same money as Irvin received from the Colts. In any event , it doesn't look like he attracted a whole lot of attention when you look at his 1 year deal at that #. For what it's worth , I have a hard time understanding how one would consider him easily better than Freeman if healthy. Freeman and Jackson (at this point in his career) are both average ILB talents. I think, if he heals up, Irving will be better than either of them. Spikes has always been an excellent run defender and held his own in coverage. I really don't understand the lack of market for him. Pats got a steal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 hmm Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Freeman and Jackson (at this point in his career) are both average ILB talents. I think, if he heals up, Irving will be better than either of them. Spikes has always been an excellent run defender and held his own in coverage. I really don't understand the lack of market for him. Pats got a steal. I'm not claiming to have watched film on Spikes but I've read he's bad in coverage.. not "holds his own" as you claim. If Grigson is paying Jackson just short of 6 mill and Freeman 2.4 and Spikes (1.3 mill) is way better as you suggest , we need a new GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'm not claiming to have watched film on Spikes but I've read he's bad in coverage.. not "holds his own" as you claim. If Grigson is paying Jackson just short of 6 mill and Freeman 2.4 and Spikes (1.3 mill) is way better as you suggest , we need a new GM. maybe we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 He just a guy IMO. 2 down ILB as you say. Yes and no. He is great verse the run. He caused many fumbles from RBs when he was in NE which earned him the nickname sand man because he puts guys to sleep. I always kind of liked that one. But yes, he is very limited in coverage so you are getting a 2 down guy but he is a great player for those 2 downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'm not claiming to have watched film on Spikes but I've read he's bad in coverage.. not "holds his own" as you claim. If Grigson is paying Jackson just short of 6 mill and Freeman 2.4 and Spikes (1.3 mill) is way better as you suggest , we need a new GM.As a run stuffer there's little doubt, in my mind, that Spikes is better than either of our guys and in coverage he's better than Jackson, though, coverage certainly isn't his strength. As far as needing a new GM, well, 30 other GMs also didn't sign him. Like I said, it's a bit baffling to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Just wanted to make sure of something...........? Is this still a website for Colts fans? Are we allowed to post things too, or it now only about the Patriots? Seems like these ants are just never going to leave our picnic.....I kind of like having them around.. Especially when week six rolls around and we finally bust through and step over that Patriots wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Spikes is phenomenal against the run but suspect against the pass. We're paying Jackson $6 million a year to come in and stop the run [ since we all know he can't cover for a lick ] Hmm.. Maybe we do need a GM..I'm kidding obviously. I actually like Jackson.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yeah, me too. But bridges can be mended I suppose when you are out of a job. I wonder if Sergio Brown would ever re-sign with the Patriots after Gronk dismissed him by "Throwing him out of the club" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Spikes is phenomenal against the run but suspect against the pass. We're paying Jackson $6 million a year to come in and stop the run [ since we all know he can't cover for a lick ] Hmm.. Maybe we do need a GM..I'm kidding obviously. I actually like Jackson..Jackson is making 5-6 times what Spikes will make this year and he's worse against the run and terrible in coverage. He seems like a great locker room guy (as long as no one orders pizza, amirite?) and a great leader, though.I'm still bummed we didn't get Karlos Dansby last year, rather than DJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Jackson is making 5-6 times what Spikes will make this year and he's worse against the run and terrible in coverage. He seems like a great locker room guy (as long as no one orders pizza, amirite?) and a great leader, though.I'm still bummed we didn't get Karlos Dansby last year, rather than DJ.I thought Jackson had a decent year for us. He should benefit from our improved front seven this year. At least I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I'm not claiming to have watched film on Spikes but I've read he's bad in coverage.. not "holds his own" as you claim. If Grigson is paying Jackson just short of 6 mill and Freeman 2.4 and Spikes (1.3 mill) is way better as you suggest , we need a new GM. I guess everyone forgot that Brandon Spikes is a documented knucklehead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I guess everyone forgot that Brandon Spikes is a documented knucklehead. Sounds to me like Spikes is the steal of the decade. No ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southwest1 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 His value went down IMO because he left NE like a punk and then had a sub par year in Buffalo. In addition, he can't cover but is a beast against the run. He will be great for us on obvious run downs but will be a part-time player. Typical Bill signing. Gets the value he needs cheap for a player that had no job offer.Yeah, when he left for Buffalo & made that "slave" comment I wasn't very impressed. Nice NE addition like you said AMF. Apparently, you can go home again. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Sounds to me like Spikes is the steal of the decade. No ? Anything that Bill does makes everyone else dumb for not doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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