get him out of there

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

Since we have the balls to replace a center that was playing well. Let's get whalen from returning. .. He showed what I been saying, no burst, no vision, no athleticism. Let's stick loucheiz in at pr and Moncrief at kr

[Dark Superman]

Don't even know why the NFL has kick returners.. Every kick is literally a touchback.

[MB-ColtsFan]

Since we have the balls to replace a center that was playing well. Let's get whalen from returning. .. He showed what I been saying, no burst, no vision, no athleticism. Let's stick loucheiz in at pr and Moncrief at kr

I can get behind this.  I like Purifoy and would like to see what he can do.

Whalen has been the "safe" choice, in my opinion, but a few bad decisions today make me want to look elsewhere.

If those choices don't work out we could always go back to Griff, but for now, I would vote for trying someone else.

[ColtsLegacy]

I can get behind this. I like Purifoy and would like to see what he can do.

Whalen has been the "safe" choice, in my opinion, but a few bad decisions today make me want to look elsewhere.

If those choices don't work out we could always go back to Griff, but for now, I would vote for trying someone else.

He's the safe choice because he's slow and won't get you any big returns but at least he won't make any big mista... Oh wait.

Yes, he needs to go, but I think we only bench good players.

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

He's the safe choice because he's slow and won't get you any big returns but at least he won't make any big mista... Oh wait.

Yes, he needs to go, but I think we only bench good players.

exactly that was his saving grace. .. Now he's just expendable

[PrincetonTiger]

Griff did not have a good day

[12isthenew18]

MONCRIEF

[NewEra]

I liked Purifoy way more during preseason. Maybe they were afraid that some of his ballsiness would cost us. Well griffs ballsy is at half speed and still cost us.

I'd go with Purifoy/Moncrief/Boom

[Gavin]

I liked Purifoy way more during preseason. Maybe they were afraid that some of his ballsiness would cost us. Well griffs ballsy is at half speed and still cost us.

I'd go with Purifoy/Moncrief/Boom

It was 1 game

[chad hugo]

I think i missed something...what exactly did whalen do during returns ?

[twfish]

Lol love the fact that your all willing to burn him at the stake after 1 poor game.

[ColtsLegacy]

I think i missed something...what exactly did whalen do during returns ?

 

Did you miss the game?

[TKnight24]

I think i missed something...what exactly did whalen do during returns ?

Muff, Fumble, & run out from 9 yards deep in the end zone

Pulled a David Reed kind of day today

[twfish]

Wait Andrew luck had a bad game and threw more interceptions then touchdowns. Let bench him! Anyone still have Chandler Harnishes number?!?! Reggie Wayne had some penalties lets go get DHB back!!! This forum kills me sometimes

[hawkeyes]

Griff does good job on punt returns - not sure I like him on kicks offs.

 

He did make a bone headed play taking the one out from 9yds deep - that one mistake does NOT mean replace him though!

 

That fumble IMO wasn't a mistake - I'll let it slide.

[ColtsLegacy]

Lol love the fact that your all willing to burn him at the stake after 1 poor game.

 

He doesn't bring us the upside of big returns, so his job is to be smart and safe. He completely failed on both accounts today.

[ColtsLegacy]

Wait Andrew luck had a bad game and threw more interceptions then touchdowns. Let bench him! Anyone still have Chandler Harnishes number?!?! Reggie Wayne had some penalties lets go get DHB back!!! This forum kills me sometimes

 

Stupid comparison.

[NewEra]

It was 1 game

It has, but what has he shown that's special the last 4 games?

[ColtsLegacy]

Griff does good job on punt returns - he did make a bone headed play taking the one out from 9yds deep - that one mistake does NOT mean replace him though!

 

And what about him not catching a 35 yard punt that turned into a 68 yarder because of it and he picked it up at the end surrounded by Ravens, risking another fumble. Also, returning a kick that was 9.5 yards deep.

 

He's not Devon Hester, so you don't put up with that %.

[shakedownstreet]

whalen to sleep in the woodshed tonight

[twfish]

He doesn't bring us the upside of big returns, so his job is to be smart and safe. He completely failed on both accounts today.

Hes had alot of very good plays. Alot have been brought back by penalties like most KR and PR. Hes been extremely solid for us for 8 games (including the pre season) so why throw him away after a bad one.

Stupid comparison.

They didnt perform as well as they should have, they missed things they shouldnt have so how isnt it? Im just going as extreme as 80% of the post on this forum..

[chad hugo]

Did you miss the game?

 

well i missed the entire 3rd qtr and the start of the 4th so i thought it might have happened during that time 

[GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE]

Wait Andrew luck had a bad game and threw more interceptions then touchdowns. Let bench him! Anyone still have Chandler Harnishes number?!?! Reggie Wayne had some penalties lets go get DHB back!!! This forum kills me sometimes

Not that he had a bad game. ... even on his best games he still sucked.. luck and reggie are still beast even on their worst days

[Gavin]

It has, but what has he shown that's special the last 4 games?

What has any other Returner shown for that matter? you put the guy with the surest hands back there, That don't mean he will catch 100% of all balls but history now shows 1 botched catch out of several now...Bad snap...If it continues then ya have a real problem but 1 does not equal a problem

[twfish]

Not that he had a bad game. ... even on his best games he still sucked.. luck and reggie are still beast even on their worst days

Aside from this game this year our pr and kr have looked as good if not better than it has in a long time

[B~Town]

While were at it lets cut Bradshaw and bench Luck for Matt :slaphead:

[ColtsLegacy]

What has any other Return shown for that matter? you put the guy with the surest hands back there, That don't mean he will catch 100% of all balls but history now shows 1 botched catch out of several now...Bad snap...If it continues then ya have a real problem but 1 does not equal a problem

 

We have players that can do what Griff does and then some without being so stupid. Don't forget the punt that he let go early on that cost us 30 yards of field position. The play he fumbled on was not the first one he has failed to fair catch this year that he clearly should have, it's just the first that has cost us. Griff's lack of big return ability means he should be on a very short leash.

[Reddog]

Since we have the balls to replace a center that was playing well. Let's get whalen from returning. .. He showed what I been saying, no burst, no vision, no athleticism. Let's stick loucheiz in at pr and Moncrief at kr

I think Griff has all those things but the are overridden by his stones.  He needs to be coached and never let that happen again.

[ColtsLegacy]

Hes had alot of very good plays. Alot have been brought back by penalties like most KR and PR. Hes been extremely solid for us for 8 games (including the pre season) so why throw him away after a bad one.

They didnt perform as well as they should have, they missed things they shouldnt have so how isnt it? Im just going as extreme as 80% of the post on this forum..

 

Do I really have to explain to you why that's a stupid comparison? Griff Whalen's PR productivity can easily be replaced by another player who won't be as boneheaded. 

[TKnight24]

While were at it lets cut Bradshaw and bench Luck for Matt :slaphead:

Funny thing is I thought Matt was coming in when Andrew took that hit when he dived forward after the scramble and laid there for a bit

[twfish]

Do I really have to explain to you why that's a stupid comparison? Griff Whalen's PR productivity can easily be replaced by another player who won't be as boneheaded.

On a serious note I dont heartedly beleive in the comparison im just being as unirrational as many people.

Who do we put in then? Moncreif? A man with no experience?

"Boom" herron who doesnt have as good of hands?

Purifoy? Hes already shown hes more bone headed.

T.Y, are we really going to put him in that situation?

[B~Town]

Funny thing is I thought Matt was coming in when Andrew took that hit when he dived forward after the scramble and laid there for a bit

Did not like watching him lay there was very happy to see him get back up and keep going .

[jbaron04]

He's the safe choice because he's slow and won't get you any big returns but at least he won't make any big mista... Oh wait.

Yes, he needs to go, but I think we only bench good players.

wahlen need to be sat on the bench

[B~Town]

On a serious note I dont heartedly beleive in the comparison im just being as unirrational as many people.

Who do we put in then? Moncreif? A man with no experience?

"Boom" herron who doesnt have as good of hands?

Purifoy? Hes already shown hes more bone headed.

T.Y, are we really going to put him in that situation?

Great post sir need more sense around here .

[jbaron04]

Let the young kid moncief get them touches

[twfish]

Let the young kid moncief get them touches

He never did in college so its not really a safe bet to let him do it now

[House]

I don't want to pile on, but an alternative needs to be found.

At his best Griff is mediocre, safe, reliable.

At his worst, he's near disastrous.

Clearly a position we could find a better alternative.

[Ryan Pelley]

Don't even know why the NFL has kick returners.. Every kick is literally a touchback.

No, every kick is not LITERALLY a touchback.

[ColtsLegacy]

On a serious note I dont heartedly beleive in the comparison im just being as unirrational as many people.

Who do we put in then? Moncreif? A man with no experience?

"Boom" herron who doesnt have as good of hands?

Purifoy? Hes already shown hes more bone headed.

T.Y, are we really going to put him in that situation?

 

No to TY and not sure about Boom. The other two I'm sure are better returners with the ball in their hands and I think it's safe to say they can be smarter than Griff has been to this point. This was the first game that Griff's questionable fielding/not fair catching has hurt us but he has made dumb choices in other games as well and, again, it's not like he's a playmaker as a returner.

[Dark_Indy]

On a serious note I dont heartedly beleive in the comparison im just being as unirrational as many people.

Who do we put in then? Moncreif? A man with no experience?

"Boom" herron who doesnt have as good of hands?

Purifoy? Hes already shown hes more bone headed.

T.Y, are we really going to put him in that situation?

 

Moncrief- "A man with no experience". There are a lot of young players who make their money on special teams. Yeah, we are developing him for the future, but remember. T.Y. returned kicks when he was "A man with no experience"

"Boom" Herron- "Who doesn't have as good of hands"- How can you make that judgement? Herron would be fine returning kicks.

Purifoy- "Boneheaded"- Between Purifoy, Sergio and Studebaker those are our 3 best special teams players.

T.Y.- I'm up in the air about this. I'd rather him not get injured.

 

You can't hit home runs when you're bunting. It's awful, but today not having a return man would have LITERALLY been better than having Griff Whalen. One less turnover and a touchback versus the Ravens getting the ball and starting at the 16.