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[JasonABrown]

"The Indianapolis Colts today waived-injured wide receiver Nathan Palmer, placed safety John Boyett on the Reserve/Non-Football Injury list and moved linebacker Josh McNary to an exempt status on the roster."

 

[Derakynn]

What does exempt status mean?

[CS Colts Fan]

found on Rotoworld...  no surprises

 

John Boyett - DB - Colts

Colts placed S John Boyett on reserve/NFI and waived/injured WR Nathan Palmer.

Boyett's senior season at Oregon was ended after one game by knee surgeries. He was never expected to contribute early on. Palmer will miss the entire year after injuring his MCL.

 

 

 

 

[HtownColt]

@ColtsAuth_Kyle: According to a quick search, players on the Military/Reserve list can be activated at any time. While on the list, they are NOT paid.

[jameszeigler834]

Means your not on the active roster.

[CS Colts Fan]

mod's please remove this post or merge to the same topic.

 

 

thanks

[NewColtsFan]

It'll be interesting to see if Boyett makes it on the active roster anytime this year.....    Most thought Chapman would at some point last year -- and, of course, he didn't.

 

Same could happen to Boyett.

 

Still...   I'm hoping he gets in around the bye week....  feels like the right time....

 

Either way,  he remains one of my favorite 2013 draft picks.    Glad we took him.

[TKnight24]

Is McNary ever gonna play?

[ÅÐØNϧ 1]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20130827/SPORTS/308270036/1058/SPORTS03

[HtownColt]

Here's a look at the roster breakdown by position before the Colts cut 22 more players by Saturday at 6:00 p.m. EST:

Quarterbacks (3): Chandler Harnish, Matt Hasselbeck, Andrew Luck

Running Backs (4): Vick Ballard, Ahmad Bradshaw, Donald Brown, Kerwynn Williams

Fullbacks (2): Stanley Havili, Robert Hughes

Wide Receivers (9): LaVon Brazill, Darrius Heyward-Bey, T.Y. Hilton, Jeremy Kelley, David Reed, Jabin Sambrano, Lanear Sampson, Reggie Wayne, Griff Whalen

Tight Ends (4): Dwayne Allen, Justice Cunningham, Coby Fleener, Dominique Jones

Offensive Line (14): Thomas Austin, Anthony Castonzo, Gosder Cherilus, Emmett Cleary, Khaled Holmes, Ben Ijalana, Jeff Linkenbach, Mike McGlynn, Joe Reitz, Samson Satele, Bradley Sowell, Donald Thomas, Hugh Thornton, Lee Ziemba

Defensive Line (10): Josh Chapman, Ricky Jean Francois, Aubrayo Franklin, Lawrence Guy, Montori Hughes, Ricardo Mathews, Fili Moala, Drake Nevis, Cory Redding, Martin Tevaseu

Linebackers (12): Daniel Adongo, Pat Angerer, Kavell Conner, Jerrell Freeman, Mario Harvey, Shawn Loiseau, Robert Mathis, Caesar Rayford, Kelvin Sheppard, Monte Simmons, Erik Walden, Bjoern Werner

Cornerbacks (8): Darius Butler, Vontae Davis, Josh Gordy, Marshay Green, Sheldon Price, Daxton Swanson, Greg Toler, Cassius Vaughn

Safeties (6): Larry Asante, Antoine Bethea, Sergio Brown, Delano Howell, LaRon Landry, Joe Lefeged

Specialists (3): Pat McAfee, Matt Overton, Adam Vinatieri

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

Glad we drafted Boyett, I am all for giving the guy the whole year off like Chapman & have him completely healthy unless he is that much further along than Chapman was at this time last year. Looking forward to seeing him play when he can. I think we might have a good here based on college career an his make up.

[jamesie jr]

Quite happy with the 3 people we have cut. No big shocks. Would have liked McNary to be on the roster this year though.

[TKnight24]

Chandler Harnish

Robert Hughes

Jeremy Kelley

Jabin Sambrano

Lanear Sampson

David Reed

Dominique Jones

Thomas Austin

Lee Ziemba

Emmett Cleary

Bradley Sowell

Shawn Loesiu

Monte Simmons

All are next on the way out imo. The path to 53 has officially begun.

[Smonroe]

I got to 19 cuts pretty easily, it's tough for me to come up with the other 3.

 

My 53, without naming names: 

 

QB 2, RB 3, FB 1, WR 5, TE 4, OL 10 = 25

 

DL 8, LB 8, CB 5, S 4 = 25

 

ST 3

[Smonroe]

Chandler Harnish

Robert Hughes

Jeremy Kelley

Jabin Sambrano

Lanear Sampson

David Reed

Dominique Jones

Thomas Austin

Lee Ziemba

Emmett Cleary

Bradley Sowell

Shawn Loesiu

Monte Simmons

All are next on the way out imo. The path to 53 has officially begun.

 

Does Brazil count against the final 53?  I didn't think so.  I have Reed staying and K. Williams being cut.

[TKnight24]

Does Brazil count against the final 53? I didn't think so. I have Reed staying and K. Williams being cut.

Not sure. But I think K Willy makes it unless Pagano gives Reed the inside lane since he played in Baltimore with Pagano. Other than that, I don't think K Willy has done anything to say he needs to be cut. And with our running backs injury issues (aside from Ballard), K Willy could be a good insurance policy

[NDcolt]

He is way ahead of where Chapman was at this time of last yr.  Didn't coach P say he could have participated in OTA's but decided it was best to rest him for TC but he never did make the field?

[HtownColt]

Chandler Harnish

Robert Hughes

Jeremy Kelley

Jabin Sambrano

Lanear Sampson

David Reed

Justice Cunningham

Thomas Austin

Lee Ziemba

Ben Ijalana

Bradley Sowell

Emmett Cleary

Shawn Loeseau

Monte Simmons

Lawrence Guy

Martin Tevasue

Ricardo Mathews

Daniel Adongo

Sheldon Price

Dax Swanson

Larry Asante

Marshay Green/Josh Gordy or Moala to PUP

* one of those WR makes it for 4 games or a wr off the waiver wire until Brazill comes back

[mo0nlighting]

The only thing I saw printed about Boyett during TC was he was walking around with both knees wrapped and it looked fairly uncomfortable.  Does anybody have any info into his rehab progress?

[James]

Is Boyett expected to be a FS or SS? If we don't resign Bethea next year he and Landry could be our future safety duo.

[mvbighead]

I like this style from Grigson.  Sign guys with high talent, but currently are injured, give them a year off to rehab, and try them next year.  Some may view it as a waste of a pick, but the reality is, most of your 5th and below rounders never contribute in season 1.  By doing this, you are more or less grabbing players that you can red shirt and hope that their talent shines when they are healthy.  It's a good strategy, IMO.

 

Hope this works out well for Boyett.

[dw49]

Quite happy with the 3 people we have cut. No big shocks. Would have liked McNary to be on the roster this year though.

 

 

That could happen at a later day.

[Superman]

It'll be interesting to see if Boyett makes it on the active roster anytime this year.....    Most thought Chapman would at some point last year -- and, of course, he didn't.

 

Same could happen to Boyett.

 

Still...   I'm hoping he gets in around the bye week....  feels like the right time....

 

Either way,  he remains one of my favorite 2013 draft picks.    Glad we took him.

 

He's essentially on PUP; the rules are the same, I believe. There might be an exception in Boyett's case that keeps him off of the preseason 75 man roster, which would mean we gain a roster spot. So it is a lot like Chapman last year. And Boyett would have until Week 8 to be ready to play.

 

I don't know how far along Boyett is in comparison with Chapman last year, but he's certainly eligible to return. This management and coaching staff seems very willing to err on the side of caution when it comes to bringing players back from injury, especially young players. That's how they approached Chapman, saying that they just wanted to be careful with him. That's very defensible. And as has been stated, this is a low draft pick that you ordinarily wouldn't get a whole lot of production out of in Year 1 anyways, so it's not like we're compromising the quality of the roster by being careful.

 

So, as great as it would be if Boyett is actually able to play in any capacity this season, I would bet against him actually playing. I figure he'll be placed on IR by midseason, he'll continue to rehab and work on his body (he had several injuries, and the more time he spends in therapy, the better; he should wind up stronger than he was before he got hurt), and he'll have a clean bill of health by the time camp opens next year.

[Superman]

http://www.indystar.com/article/20130827/SPORTS/308270036/1058/SPORTS03

 

That's a good explanation:

 

McNary’s exemption is under the reserve/military rules where the player reported after June 1, 2013 and has not played in any preseason games. He has missed all three preseason games with a hamstring injury. McNary was serving in the Army and did not report to the Colts until July 29.

 

[dw49]

It'll be interesting to see if Boyett makes it on the active roster anytime this year.....    Most thought Chapman would at some point last year -- and, of course, he didn't.

 

Same could happen to Boyett.

 

Still...   I'm hoping he gets in around the bye week....  feels like the right time....

 

Either way,  he remains one of my favorite 2013 draft picks.    Glad we took him.

 

 

Yea.. mine too. Also I didn't realize that teams can take a player off this "injured list" at anytime. I thought was the same as IR. 

[Superman]

I got to 19 cuts pretty easily, it's tough for me to come up with the other 3.

 

My 53, without naming names: 

 

QB 2, RB 3, FB 1, WR 5, TE 4, OL 10 = 25

 

DL 8, LB 8, CB 5, S 4 = 25

 

ST 3

 

Any particular reason you're keeping four tight ends? I don't think our 4th is worthy of a roster spot, and I only expect us to keep him if Allen and Fleener still aren't ready to play. Just curious what your reasoning is...

[Stephen]

I think Williams and reid make it. Harnish hughs sambrano Sampson Loeseau price Zeimba Austin Kelly simmons swanson adongo jones will be cut

[Superman]

Here's a look at the roster breakdown by position before the Colts cut 22 more players by Saturday at 6:00 p.m. EST:

 

Here's my projection. 

 

Quarterbacks (3 / 2): Chandler Harnish, Matt Hasselbeck, Andrew Luck

Running Backs (4): Vick Ballard, Ahmad Bradshaw, Donald Brown, Kerwynn Williams

Fullbacks (2 / 1): Stanley Havili, Robert Hughes

Wide Receivers (9 / 5): LaVon Brazill, Darrius Heyward-Bey, T.Y. Hilton, Jeremy Kelley, David Reed, Jabin Sambrano, Lanear Sampson, Reggie Wayne, Griff Whalen

Tight Ends (4 / 3): Dwayne Allen, Justice Cunningham, Coby Fleener, Dominique Jones

Offensive Line (14 / 10): Thomas Austin, Anthony Castonzo, Gosder Cherilus, Emmett Cleary, Khaled Holmes, Ben Ijalana, Jeff Linkenbach, Mike McGlynn, Joe Reitz, Samson Satele, Bradley Sowell, Donald Thomas, Hugh Thornton, Lee Ziemba

Defensive Line (10 / 7): Josh Chapman, Ricky Jean Francois, Aubrayo Franklin, Lawrence Guy, Montori Hughes, Ricardo Mathews, Fili Moala, Drake Nevis, Cory Redding, Martin Tevaseu

Linebackers (12 / 9): Daniel Adongo, Pat Angerer, Kavell Conner, Jerrell Freeman, Mario Harvey, Shawn Loiseau, Robert Mathis, Caesar Rayford, Kelvin Sheppard, Monte Simmons, Erik Walden, Bjoern Werner

Cornerbacks (8 / 5): Darius Butler, Vontae Davis, Josh Gordy, Marshay Green, Sheldon Price, Daxton Swanson, Greg Toler, Cassius Vaughn

Safeties (6 / 4): Larry Asante, Antoine Bethea, Sergio Brown, Delano Howell, LaRon Landry, Joe Lefeged

Specialists (3): Pat McAfee, Matt Overton, Adam Vinatieri

 

Brazill is retained, but doesn't count against the final 53 man roster because of his suspension. I kept David Reed because I figure he's going to be a return option, taking Cassius Vaughn out of the rotation.

 

The toughest spots were defensive line and linebacker. I think all of our defensive linemen have played well enough to earn a spot, except Moala, who hasn't played. But I think we'll only keep 7. Some tough cuts here, as I like Mathews and I think Tevaseu would make decent depth at nose tackle. But Guy and Nevis have been better. I also think Loiseau has played well.

[Smonroe]

Any particular reason you're keeping four tight ends? I don't think our 4th is worthy of a roster spot, and I only expect us to keep him if Allen and Fleener still aren't ready to play. Just curious what your reasoning is...

 

That's exactly why.  Both Allen and Fleener have had issues in the preseason.  I know they're minor and mostly precautionary, but I think a backup for each would be needed.

 

I do agree with your assessment, I'd rather have better back ups.  I won't be surprised if we pull someone off waivers.

[Smonroe]

Not sure. But I think K Willy makes it unless Pagano gives Reed the inside lane since he played in Baltimore with Pagano. Other than that, I don't think K Willy has done anything to say he needs to be cut. And with our running backs injury issues (aside from Ballard), K Willy could be a good insurance policy

 

You may be absolutely right.   I look at it the other way - has KW shown us anything that says we need to keep him?  Especially as the 4th back, when we're already carrying a FB?  If he's our KRer, then yes. 

 

My logic is that we haven't really seen anyone show up as the 5th WR.  Reed can do that and return.

 

It's fun to speculate, I could be way off base.

[jameszeigler834]

Why Sheldon Price he is like the second on the team in tackles this preseason.

[Smonroe]

Why Sheldon Price he is like the second on the team in tackles this preseason.

 

Would you rather have him over Vaughn?  To me, they look equally bad in coverage.  But Vaughn has experience as a starter.

[Smonroe]

Chandler Harnish

Robert Hughes

Jeremy Kelley

Jabin Sambrano

Lanear Sampson

David Reed

Justice Cunningham

Thomas Austin

Lee Ziemba

Ben Ijalana

Bradley Sowell

Emmett Cleary

Shawn Loeseau

Monte Simmons

Lawrence Guy

Martin Tevasue

Ricardo Mathews

Daniel Adongo

Sheldon Price

Dax Swanson

Larry Asante

Marshay Green/Josh Gordy or Moala to PUP

* one of those WR makes it for 4 games or a wr off the waiver wire until Brazill comes back

 

It's a good sign when you're cuting guys that will be picked up pretty fast by others.  Guy and Mathews have played pretty well but we're actually deep at D Line.

 

I think either Cleary or Ijalana will make the team.  Cunningham and Reed, too.

 

Maybe Green has a shot?

[colts_100nascar17fan]

My cuts....Harnish,Hughes,Kelley,Sambrano,Sampson,Jones,Austin,Cleary,Sowell,Ziemba,Guy,Tevaseau,Adondo,Loiseau,Simmons,Price,Swanson,Vaughn or Green,Asante,Lefeged,Mattews

[jamesie jr]

My 22: (cuts which i think are a tough decison in bold)

 

Harnish, Hughes, Kelley, Reed, Sampson, Sambrano, Jones, Mcglynn, Austin, Cleary, Ziemba, Tevasue, Guy, Moala, Adongo, Simmons, Loiseue, Gordy, Swanson, Price, Brown, Lefeged

 

That leaves 2 QB, 4 Rb, 1 FB, 5 WR, 3 TE, 10 OL     7 DL, 9 LB, 5 CB, 4 S        3 ST

 

Ziemba, Loisoeiu and Price have impressed me and i like Lefeged but Asante and Howell have played better imo.

[HtownColt]

It's a good sign when you're cuting guys that will be picked up pretty fast by others. Guy and Mathews have played pretty well but we're actually deep at D Line.

I think either Cleary or Ijalana will make the team. Cunningham and Reed, too.

Maybe Green has a shot?

Yea those DL cuts are tough this year.

I would like Ijalana to make it but he simply hasn't played in the preseason, I just can't find a spot for Cleary the backup OL I have are Link, Reitz, Holmes, and McGlynn. I'm probably in the minority but I like Dominique Jones more than Cunningham.

[crazycolt1]

Here's my projection. 

 

Quarterbacks (3 / 2): Chandler Harnish, Matt Hasselbeck, Andrew Luck

Running Backs (4): Vick Ballard, Ahmad Bradshaw, Donald Brown, Kerwynn Williams

Fullbacks (2 / 1): Stanley Havili, Robert Hughes

Wide Receivers (9 / 5): LaVon Brazill, Darrius Heyward-Bey, T.Y. Hilton, Jeremy Kelley, David Reed, Jabin Sambrano, Lanear Sampson, Reggie Wayne, Griff Whalen

Tight Ends (4 / 3): Dwayne Allen, Justice Cunningham, Coby Fleener, Dominique Jones

Offensive Line (14 / 10): Thomas Austin, Anthony Castonzo, Gosder Cherilus, Emmett Cleary, Khaled Holmes, Ben Ijalana, Jeff Linkenbach, Mike McGlynn, Joe Reitz, Samson Satele, Bradley Sowell, Donald Thomas, Hugh Thornton, Lee Ziemba

Defensive Line (10 / 7): Josh Chapman, Ricky Jean Francois, Aubrayo Franklin, Lawrence Guy, Montori Hughes, Ricardo Mathews, Fili Moala, Drake Nevis, Cory Redding, Martin Tevaseu

Linebackers (12): Daniel Adongo, Pat Angerer, Kavell Conner, Jerrell Freeman, Mario Harvey, Shawn Loiseau, Robert Mathis, Caesar Rayford, Kelvin Sheppard, Monte Simmons, Erik Walden, Bjoern Werner

Cornerbacks (8 / 5): Darius Butler, Vontae Davis, Josh Gordy, Marshay Green, Sheldon Price, Daxton Swanson, Greg Toler, Cassius Vaughn

Safeties (6 / 4): Larry Asante, Antoine Bethea, Sergio Brown, Delano Howell, LaRon Landry, Joe Lefeged

Specialists (3): Pat McAfee, Matt Overton, Adam Vinatieri

 

Brazill is retained, but doesn't count against the final 53 man roster because of his suspension. I kept David Reed because I figure he's going to be a return option, taking Cassius Vaughn out of the rotation.

 

The toughest spots were defensive line and linebacker. I think all of our defensive linemen have played well enough to earn a spot, except Moala, who hasn't played. But I think we'll only keep 7. Some tough cuts here, as I like Mathews and I think Tevaseu would make decent depth at nose tackle. But Guy and Nevis have been better. I also think Loiseau has played well.

Every year since he has been here Ricardo Mathews has been on the cut list. This might be the season he gets cut but it seems like he is made of teflon. I like the list you put together it was just an observation on Mathews. We all must still keep in mind that all of this subject for changes depending on Griggs running across other players who he might think will work in the Colts system. It seems like he never stops working in that area. 

[JasonABrown]

Every year since he has been here Ricardo Mathews has been on the cut list. This might be the season he gets cut but it seems like he is made of teflon. I like the list you put together it was just an observation on Mathews. We all must still keep in mind that all of this subject for changes depending on Griggs running across other players who he might think will work in the Colts system. It seems like he never stops working in that area. 

 

He will probably be combing the cuts and making calls until the next roster cuts get us down to 53.  I doubt much sleep is in store for him over the next few days!

[Jason_]

Here's a look at the roster breakdown by position before the Colts cut 22 more players by Saturday at 6:00 p.m. EST:

Quarterbacks (3): Chandler Harnish, Matt Hasselbeck, Andrew Luck

Running Backs (4): Vick Ballard, Ahmad Bradshaw, Donald Brown, Kerwynn Williams

Fullbacks (2): Stanley Havili, Robert Hughes

Wide Receivers (9): LaVon Brazill, Darrius Heyward-Bey, T.Y. Hilton, Jeremy Kelley, David Reed, Jabin Sambrano, Lanear Sampson, Reggie Wayne, Griff Whalen

Tight Ends (4): Dwayne Allen, Justice Cunningham, Coby Fleener, Dominique Jones

Offensive Line (14): Thomas Austin, Anthony Castonzo, Gosder Cherilus, Emmett Cleary, Khaled Holmes, Ben Ijalana, Jeff Linkenbach, Mike McGlynn, Joe Reitz, Samson Satele, Bradley Sowell, Donald Thomas, Hugh Thornton, Lee Ziemba

Defensive Line (10): Josh Chapman, Ricky Jean Francois, Aubrayo Franklin, Lawrence Guy, Montori Hughes, Ricardo Mathews, Fili Moala, Drake Nevis, Cory Redding, Martin Tevaseu

Linebackers (12): Daniel Adongo, Pat Angerer, Kavell Conner, Jerrell Freeman, Mario Harvey, Shawn Loiseau, Robert Mathis, Caesar Rayford, Kelvin Sheppard, Monte Simmons, Erik Walden, Bjoern Werner

Cornerbacks (8): Darius Butler, Vontae Davis, Josh Gordy, Marshay Green, Sheldon Price, Daxton Swanson, Greg Toler, Cassius Vaughn

Safeties (6): Larry Asante, Antoine Bethea, Sergio Brown, Delano Howell, LaRon Landry, Joe Lefeged

Specialists (3): Pat McAfee, Matt Overton, Adam Vinatieri

 

 

Well I couldn't do it...I couldn't get down to 53 lol....I think the guys I marked as strikethrough will be cut and the other 6 will be from the guys I put in Italics.   I think we'll keep either 8 or 9 on the DL.  During the one of the Baltimore preseason games, I believe against the Bucs, they showed a graphic of the roster breakdown for Baltimore as of opening day in 2012.  I believe they had either 8 or 9 DL on the roster.  I figure considering we run pretty much the same defense we'll probably keep similar numbers defensively.

 

I think it's pretty much a toss up between Ricardo Matthews and Lawrence Guy.  Guy is a better 5 tech imo but Matthews might be a better 3 tech.  I could see Moala getting cut based on his injury history but if they go by talent then I think he makes the team.

 

I'd say it's between Gordy and Green for the 5th CB spot and couldn't say who would have the edge at this point.  I think Gordy has probably been more consistent in coverage but Green adds the return aspect.  If they think he can continue to improve in coverage then I could see him overtaking Gordy.

[Superman]

Well I couldn't do it...I couldn't get down to 53 lol....I think the guys I marked as strikethrough will be cut and the other 6 will be from the guys I put in Italics.   I think we'll keep either 8 or 9 on the DL.  During the one of the Baltimore preseason games, I believe against the Bucs, they showed a graphic of the roster breakdown for Baltimore as of opening day in 2012.  I believe they had either 8 or 9 DL on the roster.  I figure considering we run pretty much the same defense we'll probably keep similar numbers defensively.

 

I think it's pretty much a toss up between Ricardo Matthews and Lawrence Guy.  Guy is a better 5 tech imo but Matthews might be a better 3 tech.  I could see Moala getting cut based on his injury history but if they go by talent then I think he makes the team.

 

I'd say it's between Gordy and Green for the 5th CB spot and couldn't say who would have the edge at this point.  I think Gordy has probably been more consistent in coverage but Green adds the return aspect.  If they think he can continue to improve in coverage then I could see him overtaking Gordy.

 

Come on man, you gotta commit!