Mr. Blue Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It seems like we've addressed virtually ever need with at least a body who's an upgrade over what we had previously, but I'm not entirely sold yet on our Inside LB's. I think Freeman's definitely gonna lead us for a while there, but is the Angerer/Conner duo the solution for the second spot? They were taken to fit into our old Tampa 2 scheme, meant to be quick, small, and cover good. 3-4 MLB's need to be monster tackling machines, and maybe we could get a better one in the first round out of Arthur Brown or Manti Te'o, all things considered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Only if Ogletree is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealityIsLuck Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 only if Ogletree is there, Allen is gone, both guards are gone, No OLB's are falling (Jarvis Jones, Barkevoius Mingo, DaMontre Moore, etc) and Rhodes AND Trufant both have to be gone, also nobody offers us a decent trade to trade back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALuck>RG3 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Agree with the two above me. Only ogletree he's a monster. Otherwise I would say maybe a de if Richardson were to fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Only if Grigs sees a star. Two great MLBs would really improve our D. The 9ers weren't great until Bowman emerged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It's one thing to want a Middle Linebacker in the draft. It's quite another to use a first round pick on one. Why in the world would you want to?? You can find talent in rounds after the first..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Blue Posted March 16, 2013 Author Share Posted March 16, 2013 It's one thing to want a Middle Linebacker in the draft. It's quite another to use a first round pick on one. Why in the world would you want to?? You can find talent in rounds after the first.....Saying it like that is basically stating that the first round is pointless. You can always find talent in the later rounds, but then what do you propose we should do in the first? And yes, I do believe that if possible, we should trade down for more picks unless someone falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Not a chance would I draft an ILB in the first round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polk_high_allstar Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 The biggest need on this team is now a WR to play on the other side of Reggie. TY is fine in the slot and I like Brazil but don't see him as a future number one wide out on this team. Would love to see us trade down to the top of the 2nd round a pick up Hunter or Rodgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearTheNeckBeard Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 meh, you can get LB in the 3rd even 4th.. Ogletree won't get past the Giants.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tydontlie Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Arthur Brown is a very underrated player, and I wouldn't mind one bit if he was our selection. Also, I unlike many others on here believe he would be a good value pick a 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Saying it like that is basically stating that the first round is pointless. You can always find talent in the later rounds, but then what do you propose we should do in the first? And yes, I do believe that if possible, we should trade down for more picks unless someone falls. The NFL has turned a MLB, or an ILB in the 3-4 into a 2-down position. So much passing and not as much running, and typically, most defenses take out their MLB/ILB for an extra Safety or Corner during passing downs. So, why spend a first round pick on a 1 or 2-down player? Unless that player is flat-out dominant, like Carolina's Luke Keukly (sp?) you're wasting the pick. As for our first round pick.... on the defensive side of the ball, I'd prefer someone who can rush the QB, either a DE or an OLB. Or, I'll take a corner. You can never have enough good corners. On the offensive side of the ball, I'd take a quality lineman, or, short of that, a WR, if you can find one that you think is special. But, (and you may already know this) I'm the lead proponent of trading down in this draft. Trade down to the 2nd round and pick up more picks. I think it would work best with this particular draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Even if Ogletree was available i wouldn't draft him i like Freeman and Conner as the starters. We need a #2 WR,LG, and CB more then LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It seems like we've addressed virtually ever need with at least a body who's an upgrade over what we had previously, but I'm not entirely sold yet on our Inside LB's. I think Freeman's definitely gonna lead us for a while there, but is the Angerer/Conner duo the solution for the second spot? They were taken to fit into our old Tampa 2 scheme, meant to be quick, small, and cover good. 3-4 MLB's need to be monster tackling machines, and maybe we could get a better one in the first round out of Arthur Brown or Manti Te'o, all things considered.Lets face it we could still go a number of directions in round 1. WR, G, S, CB, DL. I personally think that there will be a CB or S that we want more than a ILB. I think we can get an ILB in round 3 or 4 if they want to but right now Conner and Angerer are servicable on the inside. I totally agree that they are not suited for the 3-4 will move on after their contracts are up. Angerer was and has always been a MIDDLE linebacker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) It seems like we've addressed virtually ever need with at least a body who's an upgrade over what we had previously, but I'm not entirely sold yet on our Inside LB's. I've considered it. And wouldn't have any problem if we went there with 24. But I'd rather go Oline. Regardless, I don't want Teo. Grigson seems set on high character guys....Teo doesn't fit the profile. Edited March 17, 2013 by Coltssouth Inappropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I personally think that there will be a CB or S that we want more than a ILB. Not likely. We've got cash & talent invested in those positions. We cannot really say that for the ILBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Even if Ogletree was available i wouldn't draft him i like Freeman and Conner as the starters. We need a #2 WR,LG, and CB more then LB.What if you don't like any of the WR, G, CB available at 24? I wouldn't pass up a true impact player just to plug a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 · Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Personal Shot Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Personal Shot I've considered it. And wouldn't have any problem if we went there with 24. But I'd rather go Oline. Regardless, I don't want Teo. Grigson seems set on high character guys....Teo doesn't fit the profile...plus, he behaves homosexual.So a guy gets duped on a relationship by a a couple of people(from what I am reading a very elaborate hoax) over the net he thought was going somewhere and he is suddenly not the best ILB in the draft (even though he is). Also he gets asked if he is gay and suddenly he is homosexual? Dude I know I have said some things on this forum that are out there but some of the stuff you say makes me consider if you may be one sad, lonely, miserable human being whos social challenged Link to comment
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 What if you don't like any of the WR, G, CB available at 24? I wouldn't pass up a true impact player just to plug a hole.There will be a WR at our pick Keenan Allen and Justin Hunter have 1st round grades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manning1887 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I agree with those that say WR is now our biggest need. There is depth at the position in this draft class. I imagine DeAndre Hopkins or Quinton Patton would generate interest. They have good size, run good routes, and have good hands. They would also complement Hilton's speed well. I could get on board with the Ogletree pick though. That guy has tremendous athleticism and just makes plays. I am kind of surprised we aren't looking to trade guys like Angerer and Drake Nevis. Although Nevis was injured, I would think a 4/3 team would be interested in trade a 5th rounder or so on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 What if you don't like any of the WR, G, CB available at 24? I wouldn't pass up a true impact player just to plug a hole.If we do by chance go WR I'd like to trade down into the 2nd and try to get an extra 3rd round pick and use that extra 3rd round pick on Da'Rick Rogers, Can catch passes over the middle, run block, can make difficult catches and tall 6'2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 There will be a WR at our pick Keenan Allen and Justin Hunter have 1st round grades.Hunter has a top of the 2nd round grade, I like him but there will be players that are higher rated then him at 24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 So a guy gets duped on a relationship... Just stop. He didn't get duped. You and everyone else who believes him did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 There will be a WR at our pick Keenan Allen and Justin Hunter have 1st round grades.Ok, maybe grigson doesnt like either one. Teams shouldn't pass up impact players was my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Jon Bostic of Florida in the 3rd would be a good value, IMO, and he would fit our system because he has ample experience defending the pass and is big enough to play in the 3-4 in the middle. If we are going to draft an ILB, it has to be him in round 3, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Ok, maybe grigson doesnt like either one. Teams shouldn't pass up impact players was my pointGrigson let Avery Walk our #2 WR i think Grigson likes both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Hunter has a top of the 2nd round grade, I like him but there will be players that are higher rated then him at 24Hunter has a 90 overall 1st round grade espn scouts inc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Grigson let Avery Walk our #2 WR i think Grigson likes both.I don't think that indicates anything other than his opinion of Avery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It does no WR on our roster is a #2 WR and Grigson has already said that he doesn't like drafting guards high. With the FA signings and the loss of avery it's obvious were going WR in the 1st round. Some like it some don't but WR is the biggest need on the team. Wayne is 34 had a great year last year but we can't count on that type of year again, Luck needs a #1 WR and that WR can learn a lot from Wayne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Shaw Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I really wouldnt mind getting a ILB first if a good one falls to us.I love baby Ray, but im not sold the other 2 are made for this system. WR can be found in 3rd 4th round too...ie hilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 It does no WR on our roster is a #2 WR and Grigson has already said that he doesn't like drafting guards high. With the FA signings and the loss of avery it's obvious were going WR in the 1st round. Some like it some don't but WR is the biggest need on the team. Wayne is 34 had a great year last year but we can't count on that type of year again, Luck needs a #1 WR and that WR can learn a lot from Wayne.It's obvious? Ok.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Hunter has a 90 overall 1st round grade espn scouts inc.I dont follow Kiper and Mcshay very closely, Much of what they say is way way way out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 I dont follow Kiper and Mcshay very closely, Much of what they say is way way way out thereKiper has nothing to do with scouts inc. it's McShay, Kevin Weidl and Matt Williamson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 Kiper has nothing to do with scouts inc. it's McShay, Kevin Weidl and Matt WilliamsonNot familiar at all with Weidl and Williamson, actually never heard of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) I've considered it. And wouldn't have any problem if we went there with 24. But I'd rather go Oline. Regardless, I don't want Teo. Grigson seems set on high character guys....Teo doesn't fit the profile. So .. I take it you think Teo would be a bad locker room guy ? Edited March 17, 2013 by Coltssouth Edited quoted post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austriancolt Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 · Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic plus he behaves homosexual. So? Let's say he is gay, I don't see a problem with that...do you? Link to comment
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 So .. I take it you think Teo would be a bad locker room guy ? Of course. I'd hate to think anyone was fooling themselves into thinking something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 · Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic So? Let's say he is gay, I don't see a problem with that...do you? Of course. Link to comment
austriancolt Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 · Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic Of course. So what's the problem with beeing gay? Link to comment
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 16, 2013 Share Posted March 16, 2013 · Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic Hidden by Coltssouth, March 17, 2013 - Off topic So what's the problem with beeing gay? You do not grasp that instinctively? Link to comment
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