Peyton's halftime adjustments aided Brock?

[oldunclemark]

Did anyone see Brock Osweiler's interview after the Denver-NE game where Brock said that Peyton came

to the locker room at halftime with a 'list' of things he saw that might work in the second half.

Brock refused to say exactly what those things were (there may be another NE-Denver game in January) but he

credited Manning with helping the Bronco comeback...

... When New England's lead grew, I was just kidding during the game about Brock getting on

the 'Papa John phone' for some advice from the 'Sheriff's office'

But it sounds like it actually happened.

[BloodyChamp]

See this is bizarro Brady homer. It screams HEY LOOK PEYTON HELPED SO REALLY HE'S 11-6 VS BRADY NOW and it's not necessary because of course Peyton helped at halftime and course Brock will give him credit for it.

[oldunclemark]

See this is bizarro Brady homer. It screams HEY LOOK PEYTON HELPED SO REALLY HE'S 11-6 VS BRADY NOW and it's not necessary because of course Peyton helped at halftime and course Brock will give him credit for it.

???

[BloodyChamp]

It's a Superman reference.

[Superman]

See this is bizarro Brady homer. It screams HEY LOOK PEYTON HELPED SO REALLY HE'S 11-6 VS BRADY NOW and it's not necessary because of course Peyton helped at halftime and course Brock will give him credit for it.

 

You'd think the 'of course' would be common sense. But for the past week, the story has been that Manning is a bad teammate for not traveling to Chicago and that he refused to help Osweiler and a bunch of other nonsense. 

 

As for the 'he's 11-6 vs Brady now,' no one thinks that. And I don't think that's the correct record anyways.

[BloodyChamp]

It's 11-5 Brady. I don't believe the garbage from earlier last week but going this far to say I told you so is Pats fan-ish. That's all I'm saying.

[Gavin]

I'd think he would help as much as he can for the better of the team

[Jules]

Perhaps this could work.

 

Peyton's brain and Brock's arm/body?

 

Have we combined and made the perfect QB?

[oldunclemark]

Perhaps this could work.

 

Peyton's brain and Brock's arm/body?

 

Have we combined and made the perfect QB?

There is a very interesting thought, Jules.

Maybe Brock plays and Peyton assists as long as the Broncos win and Peyton stays ready in the 'bullpen' until he is needed.

[Jules]

There is a very interesting thought, Jules.

Maybe Brock plays and Peyton assists as long as the Broncos win and Peyton stays ready in the 'bullpen' until he is needed.

 

Keep in mind........as far as we know Peyton isn't even ready to play yet is he? Sounds like he is still not even there yet health wise. 

 

But, it is important this year for some reason to have two QBs who can play as we have seen with the Colts......and the Steelers can attest to this as well.

 

It's been the year of the injury to big names.

[southwest1]

Perhaps this could work.

 

Peyton's brain and Brock's arm/body?

 

Have we combined and made the perfect QB?

A Mile High Frankenstein eh Jules? "It's Alive!" It does bring up an interesting question though: Could 18 accept a secondary mentorship role if he knew that by February, he'd have that elusive 2nd ring? Hmmm...

 

Brock does have good velocity on his passes all game long & the cold weather doesn't seem to affect him. However, once the Playoffs start how fast is Brock at getting rid of the ball when windows get tighter & mistakes get amplified? 

 

That offense is clicking under Brock but December is when games really matter. It's tough because I believe in letting future HOF QBs finish seasons when healthy, but if I was in Manning's shoes & I was confident Brock could get me to another SB or the Championship Game, then why not tutor Brock on the sidelines & in the film room to cross the Lombardi finish line? 

 

Besides, 18 was vital in getting this team 7 wins so it's not like he's a participant in name only right & bling is bling if Brock can be the QB specimen who helps the confetti fall right? 

[Jules]

A Mile High Frankenstein eh Jules? "It's Alive!" It does bring up an interesting question though: Could 18 accept a secondary mentorship role if he knew that by February, he'd have that elusive 2nd ring? Hmmm...

 

As we saw with the 2001 Patriots it's not unheard of to have the vet go out there and finish or win a game. Happened with Bledsoe/Brady.

 

Honestly it is an interesting thought since with Brock's youth and arm and ability to withstand the bad weather elements......I could actually see this Broncos team in SF in February even. And Peyton knows the AFC teams backwards and forwards.

 

Granted it remains to be seen if Peyton can be healthy again but if he comes back healthy what if it's a Green Bay post bye week situation where he only has like a legit week or two left in him before his body falls again?

[oldunclemark]

Keep in mind........as far as we know Peyton isn't even ready to play yet is he? Sounds like he is still not even there yet health wise. 

 

But, it is important this year for some reason to have two QBs who can play as we have seen with the Colts......and the Steelers can attest to this as well.

 

It's been the year of the injury to big names.

As you may been, I'm reading that Peyton wont play for at least two more weeks and just the visual of his foot in that walking cast indicates that he may miss a third week. Denver's final 2 games are at home and, I'm guessing, that's when he will return.

Denver must find out if he can play because if he's healthy when the playoffs start....well..that was the goal at the start of the

season. To keep Peyton healthy for the playoffs. The more the Broncos win, the longer they can let Brock take the hits against the San Diegos and Oaklands.

The Dec. 28 game against Cincinnati may be for the No. 1 or 2 overall seed and that's when I think Peyton returns.

[oldunclemark]

A Mile High Frankenstein eh Jules? "It's Alive!" It does bring up an interesting question though: Could 18 accept a secondary mentorship role if he knew that by February, he'd have that elusive 2nd ring? Hmmm...

Its all about winning the title...

I think he's Okay with sitting as long as Denver is winning..

....but let the Broncos lose a game and a healthy No. 18 is back out there..because that was the plan.

Brock has struggled a little so far (NE should have won Sunday..they led 21-7 with 13 minutes to go) but San Diego and

Oakland (the next 2 weeks) are very winnable even if the Broncos are still shorthanded on defense.

If they get to 11-2, they clinch the division and then they can play who they want when they want

[southwest1]

Its all about winning the title...

I think he's Okay with sitting as long as Denver is winning..

....but let the Broncos lose a game and a healthy No. 18 is back out there..because that was the plan.

Brock has struggled a little so far (NE should have won Sunday..they led 21-7 with 13 minutes to go) but San Diego and

Oakland (the next 2 weeks) are very winnable even if the Broncos are still shorthanded on defense.

If they get to 11-2, they clinch the division and then they can play who they want when they want

Yeah, winning cures all that ails ya regardless of who is under center. I agree OUM. The problem is o-line chemistry. Peyton is usually in a hybrid pistol formation while Brock is always under center & he can bootleg better than Manning can if necessary. Shifting QBs late in the year disrupts timing on the line based on what a QB can do when a play breaks down. 

 

Never under estimate Phillip Rivers. He can make any throw from anywhere. His issue this year is that Danny Woodhead is his most reliable back while Melvin Gordon is still trying to figure out how to block & run at a professional NFL level. Just when you think Phillip is done, he surprises the hades out of ya with a tremendous showing. See that Lambeau Field game earlier this year. Rivers is 1 driven dude regardless of what his team 's record is.  

[oldunclemark]

Yeah, winning cures all that ails ya regardless of who is under center. I agree OUM. The problem is o-line chemistry. Peyton is usually in a hybrid pistol formation while Brock is always under center & he can bootleg better than Manning can if necessary. Shifting QBs late in the year disrupts timing on the line based on what a QB can do when a play breaks down. 

 

Never under estimate Phillip Rivers. He can make any throw from anywhere. His issue this year is that Danny Woodhead is his most reliable back while Melvin Gordon is still trying to figure out how to block & run at a professional NFL level. Just when you think Phillip is done, he surprises the hades out of ya with a tremendous showing. See that Lambeau Field game earlier this year. Rivers is 1 driven dude regardless of what his team 's record is.

Its always a problem playing a team twice in a short time. I agree and SD knows Denver well./

When you talk about changing QBs disrupting timing, Denver isn't playing well offensively. There isn't much timing to disrupt (see Demariyus Thomas).

There's a misconception that Denver was really good on offense against NE. They were not. Again, if that poor NE WR catches the punt with 13 minutes to go and NE ahead 21-7, the Pats probably win going away. What worries me is that while Brock isn't making turnover mistakes, he isn't getting into the end zone much either. 17-15 against the Bears and down 21-7 against NE until CJ started to run like OJ. The defense that many say was 'carrying' Peyton is carrying Brock, too. In the post-season, I think they will need more.

To me, they have to get Peyton healthy and get him out there if (and it is) the goal is to win it all.

[southwest1]

Its always a problem playing a team twice in a short time. I agree and SD knows Denver well./

When you talk about changing QBs disrupting timing, Denver isn't playing well offensively. There isn't much timing to disrupt (see Demariyus Thomas).

There's a misconception that Denver was really good on offense against NE. They were not. Again, if that poor NE WR catches the punt with 13 minutes to go and NE ahead 21-7, the Pats probably win going away. What worries me is that while Brock isn't making turnover mistakes, he isn't getting into the end zone much either. 17-15 against the Bears and down 21-7 against NE until CJ started to run like OJ. The defense that many say was 'carrying' Peyton is carrying Brock, too. In the post-season, I think they will need more.

To me, they have to get Peyton healthy and get him out there if (and it is) the goal is to win it all.

Brock has better practice squad reps & chemistry with Cody Latimer than Demaryius Thomas anyway so, I didn't expect him to click with DT quickly anyway. No question a championship defense helps but scoring  was still required on SNF regardless of what the defense did. Other than maybe 85 with the Bears or 2000 with the Ravens, defenses seldom carry teams all year long & in 2000 TE Shannon Sharpe was just as vital to Baltimore's success as Ray Lewis was. 

 

I will admit that Brock panics to much when his easy reads go away opting to scramble too soon or not throw the ball out of bounds fast enough OUM. Experience vs arm strength. I don't envy the decision John or Gary have to make here. I wonder privately what the defense wants by private ballot in the locker room Peyton or Brock? 

 

Talib, whoever is proclaimed the starter from this moment forward, just promise me no poking guys in the eyes anymore inducing temporary blindness okay? Thank you. 

[ReMeDy]

Perhaps this could work.

 

Peyton's brain and Brock's arm/body?

 

Have we combined and made the perfect QB?

 

OMG, YOU'RE RIGHT! "With your brains and my brawn we make an excellent team!"

[Jim H.]

See this is bizarro Brady homer. It screams HEY LOOK PEYTON HELPED SO REALLY HE'S 11-6 VS BRADY NOW and it's not necessary because of course Peyton helped at halftime and course Brock will give him credit for it.

What?

[Restored]

But I thought Peyton was a bad teammate and didn't want to help?

[Blue Horseshoe]

Brock has better practice squad reps & chemistry with Cody Latimer than Demaryius Thomas anyway so, I didn't expect him to click with DT quickly anyway. No question a championship defense helps but scoring  was still required on SNF regardless of what the defense did. Other than maybe 85 with the Bears or 2000 with the Ravens, defenses seldom carry teams all year long & in 2000 TE Shannon Sharpe was just as vital to Baltimore's success as Ray Lewis was. 

 

The 85 Bears were the #2 scoring offense

[amfootball]

Stories like these make me think Peyton would be a fantastic QB coach. He is pretty much a coach on the field so he could be a great coach/mentor to any QB.

[Nadine]

He really is the master of the half time adjustment.  I miss that

[Restored]

4 hours ago, amfootball said:

Stories like these make me think Peyton would be a fantastic QB coach. He is pretty much a coach on the field so he could be a great coach/mentor to any QB.

 

Funny how you and a few others are singing a different tune about Peyton helping out his teammates.

[amfootball]

27 minutes ago, Restored said:

 

Funny how you and a few others are singing a different tune about Peyton helping out his teammates.

What tune? I did not write the other stories that were being posted here by others. As with anything, there are lots of things swirling. I am sure this has been a difficult transition for Peyton. Not sure how it could not be given he was the starter and then sat down for injury. It is nice to see that Brock feels that he helped him at halftime as that is what is all about.

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, amfootball said:

What tune? I did not write the other stories that were being posted here by others. As with anything, there are lots of things swirling. I am sure this has been a difficult transition for Peyton. Not sure how it could not be given he was the starter and then sat down for injury. It is nice to see that Brock feels that he helped him at halftime as that is what is all about.

 

Are you saying at no point did you try to say peyton was a bad teammate for not traveling with the team last week?   

[amfootball]

5 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

 

Are you saying at no point did you try to say peyton was a bad teammate for not traveling with the team last week?   

There was a thread posted on it. More than one I think. Like I said, there are lots of stories swirling. This is a very volatile situation on many fronts with Denver trying to manage things but as I said, I do think it has been tough on Manning and he probably has not dealt with things well. I think it was good of Brock to mention what he did at halftime to quell some of the negativity coming from the media. Brock already seems like a savvy guy to me which is good news for Denver.

[jvan1973]

8 minutes ago, amfootball said:

There was a thread posted on it. More than one I think. Like I said, there are lots of stories swirling. This is a very volatile situation on many fronts with Denver trying to manage things but as I said, I do think it has been tough on Manning and he probably has not dealt with things well. I think it was good of Brock to mention what he did at halftime to quell some of the negativity coming from the media. Brock already seems like a savvy guy to me which is good news for Denver.

Why are you so fake?    Your tune on orange mane is far different than it is here.    Why is that? 

[Colts_Fan12]

2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Why are you so fake?    Your tune on orange mane is far different than it is here.    Why is that? 

Someone just got called out!!  

[amfootball]

4 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Why are you so fake?    Your tune on orange mane is far different than it is here.    Why is that? 

It is against forum rules here to discuss content on other forums so feel free to PM and we can discuss anything you like about the Mane, PP, etc.

[jvan1973]

Just now, amfootball said:

It is against forum rules here to discuss content on other forums so feel free to PM and we can discuss anything you like about the Mane, PP, etc.

No,   it's against the rules to post links etc. To other forums.   Not a conversation that took place there.   Thanks for not pretending like it didn't happen. 

[Colts_Fan12]

1 minute ago, amfootball said:

It is against forum rules here to discuss content on other forums so feel free to PM and we can discuss anything you like about the Mane, PP, etc.

Yeah yeah deflect being fake lol

[amfootball]

Just now, jvan1973 said:

No,   it's against the rules to post links etc. To other forums.   Not a conversation that took place there.   Thanks for not pretending like it didn't happen. 

No. I was told all talk of other forums is not permitted here. Talk to the Mods if you want but I am not going to break the rules. But again, happy to discuss on PM anything you want.

[2006Coltsbestever]

This is different! Hi everyone.

[OffensivelyPC]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

This is different! Hi everyone.

Jury is still out on whether I like it or not, but I don't hate it.  I guess if anything, they didn't make any drastic changes.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Jury is still out on whether I like it or not, but I don't hate it.  I guess if anything, they didn't make any drastic changes.

I am so used to the other one, this may take time to get used too. I am with you as I have no opinion on it yet. It's not Bad but cant say it's Good either.

[Colts_Fan12]

9 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Jury is still out on whether I like it or not, but I don't hate it.  I guess if anything, they didn't make any drastic changes.

I'm not a fan the last one was so easy and quick to get around on this one just seems like a big jumbled mess 

[NFLfan]

13 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Jury is still out on whether I like it or not, but I don't hate it.  I guess if anything, they didn't make any drastic changes.

I am finding it hard to navigate from topic to topic on the mobile site. I am slowly getting it but I am finding harder to read (font is not as large) than the former site. 

We'll get used to it.

[amfootball]

I like it. It seems cleaner to me. The navigation will take some getting used to but overall I think it is an improvement.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

I am finding it hard to navigate from place to place on the mobile site. I am slowly getting it but I am finding harder to read (font is not as large). We'll get used to it.

Yeah it's definitely different. I loved the old format but I am sure the Mods have their reasoning's for changing it.