Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

[BlackTiger]

Bryce is not that similar to Tua, hes more like a young Russel Wilson

 

Tua is actually kind of slow and his fake left handed throwing is a weird playing style.  He doesnt even move that much.  

 

Bryce is quick and make plays with his feet avoiding rushers.  I get that some people will never believe in him but hes getting drafted high and going to make plays in the league 

[JColts72]

7 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Its not like we are picking between Stroud, Young and Levis.

 

Zero chance all three are on the board at 4

Cards don't need QB nor Bears.

[csmopar]

8 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Its not like we are picking between Stroud, Young and Levis.

 

Zero chance all three are on the board at 4

Who cares… I think they’re all busts anyway

1 minute ago, JColts72 said:

Cards don't need QB nor Bears.

No but two QB needy teams could trade up…

[JColts72]

Just now, csmopar said:

Who cares… I think they’re all busts anyway

Who would u take at 4 then. If  u think all busts: another year of who then?

[BlackTiger]

4 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Cards don't need QB nor Bears.

 

Houston does and the Bears and Cardinals will both listen to trade talks

 

The odds of all three being on the board at 4 are pretty much zero.  Its more likely none are there than all three

[BlackTiger]

6 minutes ago, csmopar said:

Who cares… I think they’re all busts anyway

Its a weird class.  They have great talent and some big flaws too.

 

To me Stroud is the closest thing to a safe pick.  Bryce is the most talented today but hes small.  Levis scares me but he has potential and a lot of teams are in need.  

[RollerColt]

You know how teams kind of went into a holding pattern to see where Wilson went last year? I wonder if Carr will have a similar effect where once he goes, more moves are made. Someone is going to get him, be it this month or after that February 15th deadline. 
 

If a good portion of the QB needy teams end up filling their vacancies through vets, perhaps we won’t have as much to worry about come draft time. 

[Moosejawcolt]

2 hours ago, RollerColt said:

Get Anderson, then trade back up into the 1st round and get the best remaining QB available?

Arizona won't pass on him

 

[coltsblue1844]

3 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

And what's special about a guy thats only thrown 3000 yards once?

 

If the Giants actually liked Jones progression, they would given the fifth year option. They didn't.

What's special about Young or Stroud?

[DaColts85]

16 minutes ago, csmopar said:

25 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

 

Who cares… I think they’re all busts anyway

Every draft minus maybe two have QB’s that are hyped and they all have flaws. Elway and Luck were the only two considered can’t miss guys. So to say they are busts is a terrible statement. I would take Josh Allen for our team and had flaws. 

[JColts72]

18 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

 

Houston does and the Bears and Cardinals will both listen to trade talks

 

The odds of all three being on the board at 4 are pretty much zero.  Its more likely none are there than all three

If I was Bears GM; ask Texans for 2 and 12.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

9 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

You know how teams kind of went into a holding pattern to see where Wilson went last year? I wonder if Carr will have a similar effect where once he goes, more moves are made. Someone is going to get him, be it this month or after that February 15th deadline. 
 

If a good portion of the QB needy teams end up filling their vacancies through vets, perhaps we won’t have as much to worry about come draft time. 

I am only worried about Texans and Carr isn’t going there.

[buccolts]

2 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

Freshman, got hurt, transfer portal, national champion. What's your point?

Just pointing out that there's been, at least, one special QB that only had one 3000 yard season to that point of their careers.

You just forgot.

[buccolts]

18 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

If I was Bears GM; ask Texans for 2 and 12.

Yep, and that's one trade they should pull of sooner rather than later.

They could wait  until later to consider moving to 3, or 4, or lower.

[CR91]

18 minutes ago, buccolts said:

Just pointing out that there's been, at least, one special QB that only had one 3000 yard season to that point of their careers.

You just forgot.

 

And I explained why. You're acting like Joe Burrow played 4 full season in college. Levis has and his numbers outside of one season are weak.

 

[ShuteAt168]

2 hours ago, Nickster said:

We watched it every year before sectional in the room. Good Lord Linda Forontino or whatever her name was.

Love the dude talking about Pele and the beauty of sports.  That was a really good scene.  
 

 

 

“It ain’t the six minutes. It’s what happens in the six minutes.” 

[RollerColt]

You know if Stroud decides to stay for one more year, I think we should honestly just trade back and get more capital for next year… Good chance Levis and Young could be gone. Get Bennett or McKee later and just suck again for next year. 
 

IF we are again so bad that we end up picking in the top 5 next year, we’d have a choice of Williams, Maye, Stroud and Bo Nix. 

[JColts72]

2 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

You know if Stroud decides to stay for one more year, I think we should honestly just trade back and get more capital for next year… Good chance Levis and Young could be gone. Get Bennett or McKee later and just suck again for next year. 
 

IF we are again so bad that we end up picking in the top 5 next year, we’d have a choice of Williams, Maye, Stroud and Bo Nix. 

Texans for Young perhaps. Levis not going to Cards. Leaves Colts at 4 for him perhaps?

[RollerColt]

3 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Texans for Young perhaps. Levis not going to Cards. Leaves Colts at 4 for him perhaps?

If everyone stays put then yeah one should be there. If a team trades up ahead of us for a QB though I say we tip our hat and move on. 

[Nickster]

8 minutes ago, ShuteAt168 said:

“It ain’t the six minutes. It’s what happens in the six minutes.” 

That’s the line man.  And that’s what I tell my wife.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

10 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

You know if Stroud decides to stay for one more year, I think we should honestly just trade back and get more capital for next year… Good chance Levis and Young could be gone. Get Bennett or McKee later and just suck again for next year. 
 

IF we are again so bad that we end up picking in the top 5 next year, we’d have a choice of Williams, Maye, Stroud and Bo Nix. 

No way Irsay will put up with that.

6 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Texans for Young perhaps. Levis not going to Cards. Leaves Colts at 4 for him perhaps?

What changes everything is if Texans want Levis. Because they have more capital to get to one.

[JColts72]

3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

No way Irsay will put up with that.

What changes everything is if Texans want Levis. Because they have more capital to get to one.

If so; Young to Colts?

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

If we end up taking Richardson my biggest concern is throwing him out there to start day one and he is overwhelmed with so little football he has played.  The other 3 could play right away without being overwhelmed.

Just now, JColts72 said:

If so; Young to Colts?

I don’t think young will be on Ballards board.

[Zoltan]

CJ Stroud not declaring for the NFL yet is starting to worry me, just for the fact the big three becomes the big two (Young and Levis). It could make teams more desperate to move up and make the cost to get one much larger.

[RollerColt]

4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

No way Irsay will put up with that.

What changes everything is if Texans want Levis. Because they have more capital to get to one.

 

Yeah Irsay would probably tackle Ballard..

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, Zoltan said:

CJ Stroud not declaring for the NFL yet is starting to worry me, just for the fact the big three becomes the big two (Young and Levis). It could make teams more desperate to move up and make the cost to get one much larger.

It’s probably less likely actually. Teams won’t trade up that far for young or Levis. It’s Texans taking Levis that should concern you. 

[danlhart87]

Here's what I expect assuming Stroud declares 

 

If Texans take Young and Colts have an option at others they go Levis 

 

If Texans choose Levis and the others are available they go Stroud 

 

If first two are gone they go Young or upset 80% of forum by trading down 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I don’t care if it’s stroud or Levis. My only concern right now is if stroud doesn’t declare because that changes everything. Otherwise if both are in the draft I don’t care which one.

[csmopar]

1 hour ago, JColts72 said:

Who would u take at 4 then. If  u think all busts: another year of who then?

I think we go LT or if there is a WR or TE that warrants that high of a pick, go there. If not, trade down a few spots and get one there. 
 

then grab a QB in round 2.

 

that said, I’m fine with taking the gamble of any of those first 3 QBs at 4. I just pray we don’t trade up to try and do it. I think there’s too many questions marks there with each of them and the capital to move from 4 to 1 will be HUGE

[danlhart87]

2 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I think we go LT or if there is a WR or TE that warrants that high of a pick, go there. If not, trade down a few spots and get one there. 
 

then grab a QB in round 2.

 

that said, I’m fine with taking the gamble of any of those first 3 QBs at 4. I just pray we don’t trade up to try and do it. I think there’s too many questions marks there with each of them and the capital to move from 4 to 1 will be HUGE

We 100% shouldn't trade up 

[JColts72]

4 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I think we go LT or if there is a WR or TE that warrants that high of a pick, go there. If not, trade down a few spots and get one there. 
 

then grab a QB in round 2.

 

that said, I’m fine with taking the gamble of any of those first 3 QBs at 4. I just pray we don’t trade up to try and do it. I think there’s too many questions marks there with each of them and the capital to move from 4 to 1 will be HUGE

There's no WR or TE worth getting at 4.

[danlhart87]

There's a couple players I would take after a trade down

 

Anthony Richardson 

Joey Porter Jr 

Jaxon Smith-Njigba 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

There's a couple players I would take after a trade down

 

Anthony Richardson 

Joey Porter Jr 

Jaxon Smith-Njigba 

The question is there are teams behind us that need QB. Can’t trade down far for Richardson.

[Zoltan]

20 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It’s probably less likely actually. Teams won’t trade up that far for young or Levis. It’s Texans taking Levis that should concern you. 

I'm more than okay with them taking Levis, I think that guy has bust written all over him

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, Zoltan said:

I'm more than okay with them taking Levis, I think that guy has bust written all over him

I am fine with Levis or stroud. My biggest concern is stroud not declaring because that changes everything.

[danlhart87]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

The question is there are teams behind us that need QB. Can’t trade down far for Richardson.

That will depend on how he does in the combine. Some team could take a chance  on him.

[danlhart87]

I love how i just started this thread last Sunday and it has 30 pages almost

 

At this rate it will be 500 by the time of the draft

 

 

[RollerColt]

Just now, danlhart87 said:

I love how i just started this thread last Sunday and it has 30 pages almost

 

At this rate it will be 500 by the time of the draft

 

 

Hell it was at 12 pages by the middle of the 2nd day. I told ya it will probably break records! 

[loudnproudcolt]

Everyone should remember Stroud has not declared to become draft eligible. He has 3 days left, and it seems may be thinking of coming back. If he does stay in College, this makes the draft even more difficult. This is the first time we may see the NIL money being so much that a QB just stays in school for another year.

[Jason_]

3 minutes ago, loudnproudcolt said:

Everyone should remember Stroud has not declared to become draft eligible. He has 3 days left, and it seems may be thinking of coming back. If he does stay in College, this makes the draft even more difficult. This is the first time we may see the NIL money being so much that a QB just stays in school for another year.

 

Have you read the last couple pages of this thread?  Lol