Week 15 Around-the-NFL Game Discussions

[Nesjan3]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

I love the guy. I will take him as my head coach any day. I loved the move. Had they kicked the extra point, they would have lost too. They were playing against Aaron Rodgers. He would have won the game for them.

Nah you dont know that for sure, it was dumb, you play for a chance to go to OT. Analytics are making these coaches look foolish

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1 minute ago, coltsva said:

Interestingly, if the Browns win tomorrow they become the 4th seed, Bengals move to 6th, Chargers to 7th, Bills out. Colts stay in 5th spot.

I hope raiders win since colts still play them. Let’s get these teams knocked out. 

[NFLfan]

What happened to Teddy? 

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Just now, Nesjan3 said:

Nah you dont know that for sure, it was dumb, you play for a chance to go to OT. Analytics are making these coaches look foolish

Especially with a backup QB.

Just now, NFLfan said:

What happened to Teddy? 

Concussion 

[NFLfan]

1 minute ago, Nesjan3 said:

Nah you dont know that for sure, it was dumb, you play for a chance to go to OT. Analytics are making these coaches look foolish

 

I disagree but I think differently. Jmo

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So I guess we should root for Bengals against Ravens?  Colts will know Titans score by end of Thursday night. SF looks good. Colts could be playing for tie with a win against AZ.

[NFLfan]

Just now, Wentzszn said:

Especially with a backup QB.

Concussion 

 

I feel terrible for Teddy. He needs to retire to salvage some quality of life. Too many concussions are not good. 

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I think Titans are going to drop to that 4th seed. I would be very happy if we played Titans in the WC matchup. I would not want to play Bengals. 

[NFLfan]

6 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

Especially with a backup QB.

 

I think that is why you go for it. They are 2 yards from winning the game with a backup QB. If it was tied, the chances of Aaron Rodgers winning the game is higher. 

 

Bad play call. He could have run it in.

[Nesjan3]

Someone should gather the stats of how many times a team has won or loss when going for a win on a 2 point conversion on their last play of the game, I bet its a lot different then just looking at the percentage of 2 point conversion working. Seriously these coaches putting stock into 10% in their favor and not accounting for situations is hilarious.

[chad72]

55 minutes ago, Happy2BeHere said:

49ers rolling the falcons 31-13. Not that we really care much but hopefully 49ers carry that onto next week on Thursday and roll the Titans.

If that happens Frank would be kicking himself for putting the 2nd Titans game in Wentz’s hands by the goal line and later and not in JT’s hands.

 

Its like it has taken some time for Frank to realize our best players (OL and JT) despite stacked boxes and that probably cost us our division, IMO. There are lots of things he has done right but what I said above has a lot of truth to it.

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6 minutes ago, chad72 said:

If that happens Frank would be kicking himself for putting the 2nd Titans game in Wentz’s hands by the goal line and later and not in JT’s hands.

 

Its like it has taken some time for Frank to realize our best players (OL and JT) despite stacked boxes and that probably cost us our division, IMO. There are lots of things he has done right but what I said above has a lot of truth to it.

If that Titans game had happened a few weeks after I bet Taylor gets the ball in overtime. That game was like rivers last year against browns. After that game rivers played within the game plan and didn’t take stupid chances. We will know after Thursday what a AZ win will mean. I think SF wins. Boss will destroy Tannehill. Then they have dolphins which won’t be easy. Dolphins defense is playing really well.

 

A loss against AZ could move us clear out of the playoff picture again if other teams win. We really need to win that game. Hopefully AZ continues to struggle saturday.

 

Steelers in KC I feel good KC will win. Which will help.  Pats play bills so root fot pats to give bills another loss.

[NFLfan]

I read that Teddy suffered a head injury. He could not move at first, but he thankfully regained movement in all his extremities. 

 

Teddy needs to think of his future. He is young. Head injuries can be life-altering. This is terrible. 

[chad72]

13 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said:

Someone should gather the stats of how many times a team has won or loss when going for a win on a 2 point conversion on their last play of the game, I bet its a lot different then just looking at the percentage of 2 point conversion working. Seriously these coaches putting stock into 10% in their favor and not accounting for situations is hilarious.

I 100% agree. 
 

Belichick going for 4th and 2 signaled he wanted to put the game in the hands of his best player Tom Brady and not putting his D that was gassed on the field vs Peyton that day.

 

Staley has lost more than won on 4th downs, Harbaugh has now cost 2 games going for two now. 

 

It’s not like they didn’t move the ball on GB, the Ravens with a backup QB. Plus they forced a FG and a stop their last 2 defensive stands, right (for those using the “it’s Mahomes on the other side” or “it’s Rodgers on the other side” reasoning to absolve these coaches). I didn’t agree at all.

[chad72]

11 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

If that Titans game had happened a few weeks after I bet Taylor gets the ball in overtime. That game was like rivers last year against browns. After that game rivers played within the game plan and didn’t take stupid chances.

It’s more like we all  (Frank and everyone else) realized Wentz is not the type of guy who could carry us on his arm without mistakes. It’s always a “yeah but..” with Wentz against playoff calibre teams, especially with the talent assembled by Ballard on the offensive pass catchers side.

[jvan1973]

12 minutes ago, chad72 said:

It’s more like we all  (Frank and everyone else) realized Wentz is not the type of guy who could carry us on his arm without mistakes. It’s always a “yeah but..” with Wentz against playoff calibre teams, especially with the talent assembled by Ballard on the offensive pass catchers side.

I don't think Frank thinks that about Wentz.   He pounded on the table to get him here.    He needs more consistent targets though

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31 minutes ago, chad72 said:

It’s more like we all  (Frank and everyone else) realized Wentz is not the type of guy who could carry us on his arm without mistakes. It’s always a “yeah but..” with Wentz against playoff calibre teams, especially with the talent assembled by Ballard on the offensive pass catchers side.

He can’t carry us right now because we aren’t built with good enough WR. So we have to roll with what we have but I expect that to change in the offseason.

[Chrisaaron1023]

Fantasy playoffs start today.. and Evans is now doubtful. Gronk just collected his first catch and Brady has no Godwin who is the only person he likes to Target in the past month... FML

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Bucs have lost Evans, Godwin. And Fournette.

[buffalo34]

2 hours ago, Wentzszn said:

If that Titans game had happened a few weeks after I bet Taylor gets the ball in overtime. That game was like rivers last year against browns. After that game rivers played within the game plan and didn’t take stupid chances. We will know after Thursday what a AZ win will mean. I think SF wins. Boss will destroy Tannehill. Then they have dolphins which won’t be easy. Dolphins defense is playing really well.

 

A loss against AZ could move us clear out of the playoff picture again if other teams win. We really need to win that game. Hopefully AZ continues to struggle saturday.

 

Steelers in KC I feel good KC will win. Which will help.  Pats play bills so root fot pats to give bills another loss.

 

You shouldn't need to cheer for the Patriots, if the Bills win they'd actually be leading the division (they'd have a division record tiebreaker over the Patriots), and you'd be ahead of the Patriots in the standings with a H2H tiebreaker on them.

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1 minute ago, buffalo34 said:

 

You shouldn't need to cheer for the Patriots, if the Bills win they'd actually be leading the division (they'd have a division record tiebreaker over the Patriots), and you'd be ahead of the Patriots in the standings with a H2H tiebreaker on them.

I know in the end it doesn’t matter who wins that pats bills game. I sat if we win Saturday it doesn’t matter. If we lose Saturday then we need to root for pats. 

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Saints defense is destroying brady.

[Gramz]

Tampa/New Orleans game has been boring...yet here I am watching until the end.

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4 minutes ago, Gramz said:

Tampa/New Orleans game has been boring...yet here I am watching until the end.

It’s fun seeing Brady so frustrated he throws the tablet.

[Lancer1]

5 minutes ago, Gramz said:

Tampa/New Orleans game has been boring...yet here I am watching until the end.

Seeing if the Saints can complete the shutout, and they did!

[chad72]

It’s ALWAYS  Fun for me to watch Brady lose, in any uniform  

 

Dennis Allen has beaten Brady 4 times in 5 meetings as . I’m really surprised no one has copied his formula for beating Brady. 
 

Also, you have to consider Cooper Kupp and JT for MVP.

[Gramz]

3 minutes ago, Wentzszn said:

It’s fun seeing Brady so frustrated he throws the tablet.

Saw that. 

Just now, chad72 said:

It’s ALWys Fun for me to watch Brady lose, in any uniform  

 

Dennis Allen has beaten Brady 4 times in 5 meetings. I’m really surprised no one has copied his formula for beating Brady. 
 

Also, you have to consider Cooper Kupp and JT for MVP.

I'm sure that's why I watched until the end. 

[runthepost]

45 minutes ago, chad72 said:

It’s ALWAYS  Fun for me to watch Brady lose, in any uniform  

 

Dennis Allen has beaten Brady 4 times in 5 meetings as . I’m really surprised no one has copied his formula for beating Brady. 
 

Also, you have to consider Cooper Kupp and JT for MVP.

Not enough teams can replicate that. Probably the Rams, Broncos and Patriots can do the exact same game plan. Colts tried to but Lenny and pass rush was the difference maker. It also helps when your top 3 weapons are out

[runthepost]

2 hours ago, Chrisaaron1023 said:

Fantasy playoffs start today.. and Evans is now doubtful. Gronk just collected his first catch and Brady has no Godwin who is the only person he likes to Target in the past month... FML

I got a dud performance today from Connor, Evans, and Patterson. At least I had Mark Andrews and Mahomes . I still have Jefferson and Gay left and am up by 20

[2006Coltsbestever]

Brady got shutout 9-0 by the lowly Saints. I guess Peyton is the GOAT  - tomorrow's talk  . Hell of a week for Brady and BB fans 

[chad72]

42 minutes ago, runthepost said:

Not enough teams can replicate that. Probably the Rams, Broncos and Patriots can do the exact same game plan. Colts tried to but Lenny and pass rush was the difference maker. It also helps when your top 3 weapons are out

 

Both losses to the Saints last year in the regular season, all of the key starters were healthy but then, they had Brees but that is not the point, Dennis Allen has had Brady's number when he was secondary coach.

 

This year, he beat them with Evans and Godwin healthy along with Fournette till the end before their bye week and now this. Yes, you are right, Rams, Broncos and Patriots have the DBs to do it but only the Rams have the offense to match. However, beating Brady in the playoffs, that 20-24 point window is the magic number and if you keep him there, you have a very good chance. Only Peyton and Foles have beaten Brady when he scores over 30 points. You can pretty much forget about beating Brady in a shootout, which we tried and shot ourselves in the foot against the one guy who would make you pay.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, Gramz said:

Tampa/New Orleans game has been boring...yet here I am watching until the end.

Tom put up a Donut.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Where is @NFLUpat, that is what I thought. Disappears after we beat the big bad physical Pats with overrated Johnny Taylor. Man this whole weekend was great  

[buffalo34]

So are the Saints to Brady's Bucs as the Dolphins were to Brady's Patriots? Granted, the Dolphins never swept a Tom Brady-led Patriots team (and the Saints have now done it twice), but the Patriots almost always had a late season loss to the Dolphins that would outright kill them in playoff seeding (2015 Week 17 loss cost them HFA to the Broncos, 2019 Week 17 loss at home cost them a first round bye to the eventual SB-winning Chiefs).

 

Where would the Bucs stand with the Packers on tiebreakers? Common opponents? Kind of funny since the Bucs finished 2nd in the division last year they avoided playing last year's division winners (Seahawks and Packers) this year.

[2006Coltsbestever]

13 minutes ago, buffalo34 said:

So are the Saints to Brady's Bucs as the Dolphins were to Brady's Patriots? Granted, the Dolphins never swept a Tom Brady-led Patriots team (and the Saints have now done it twice), but the Patriots almost always had a late season loss to the Dolphins that would outright kill them in playoff seeding (2015 Week 17 loss cost them HFA to the Broncos, 2019 Week 17 loss at home cost them a first round bye to the eventual SB-winning Chiefs).

 

Where would the Bucs stand with the Packers on tiebreakers? Common opponents? Kind of funny since the Bucs finished 2nd in the division last year they avoided playing last year's division winners (Seahawks and Packers) this year.

Packers finish with Browns and Vikings at home, then at Lions. If they win out they get home field. They should win out.

[Chrisaaron1023]

6 hours ago, runthepost said:

I got a dud performance today from Connor, Evans, and Patterson. At least I had Mark Andrews and Mahomes . I still have Jefferson and Gay left and am up by 20

I had the highest scoring team in the league. Conner, Evans, Gronk, Brady all wasted me. D adams got lucky to get a TD. seems like the same story for me every year lol. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

What is this ESPN's B team, no Key or J. Will  . Where is Ninko at? At home sucking on his pacifier. Maybe Molly and Stephen A won't be on 1st Take either because their precious Pats went down in flames by our small market no name team  

[NFLfan]

That was a terrible unnecessary roughness call against the Bears defender.

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, NFLfan said:

That was a terrible unnecessary roughness call on the Bears defender.

7-0 Vikings 

[RollerColt]

Those bears helmets are U.G.L.Y.