FA Day 1 (officially starts @4pm)

[csmopar]

Today will be a large news day in terms of the number of official signings. Teams can also talk directly to players starting at 4pm vs their agents like in the last almost 48 hours.  I feel we will see a couple moves out of the Colts as the dust settles this evening.  Namely among second tier FAs. Either way, it should be an exciting day.  I'll post whatever I see on this thread. Enjoy

 

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While we wait, this is in interesting read.
 

 

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[IndyD4U]

Bring on AB, Bell, OBJ, Flowers, and Collins

 

Sorry...Had to

[richard pallo]

Can't imagine it getting any wilder than the last 48 hours.  We'll see. 

[csmopar]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

Can't imagine it getting any wilder than the last 48 hours.  We'll see. 

I don't think it'll be wilder.  I think it will be busier. 

[IndyD4U]

8 minutes ago, csmopar said:

I don't think it'll be wilder.  I think it will be busier. 

 

Agree.

 

We should finally start seeing some move. Just not the flashy blockbusters that have been reported the last two days.

[PeterBowman]

3 minutes ago, IndyD4U said:

 

Agree.

 

We'll should finally start seeing some move. Just not the flashy blockbusters that have been reported the last two days.

and generally this is where teams are built....not the big flashy deals. 

[Mr.Debonair]

Find a way to get Houston and Clinton-Dix. Defense needs talent

[IndyD4U]

1 minute ago, PeterBowman said:

and generally this is where teams are built....not the big flashy deals. 

 

Agree. Precisely my point

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[21isSuperman]

If the Colts are having trouble reaching the 89% mark, I will happily sacrifice myself and sign a 1 year, $XX mil deal to help them out.

 

[PeterBowman]

Just now, 21isSuperman said:

If the Colts are having trouble reaching the 89% mark, I will happily sacrifice myself and sign a 1 year, $XX mil deal to help them out.

 

same here....they don't have to play me or anything.....I'll happily ride the bench. 

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[PeterBowman]

Just now, csmopar said:

 

Good for Henry, well deserved.

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[#12.]

It might have been posted somewhere in another thread, but Hankins got a new deal as well.

[csmopar]

5 minutes ago, #12. said:

It might have been posted somewhere in another thread, but Hankins got a new deal as well.

yeah that came out yesterday, its in the day 2 tampering thread.

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[our_dbs_rock]

The big thing that has bothered me about the past few days is the fact that most of these contracts have come without the players and staff sitting down and having a formal "interview".  Yes, it is a relatively small community but they dont really have a chance to sit down and have a talk to discuss if each other have similar philosophies, goals, good chemistry with teammates, etc and will ultimately gel together. 

 

I think this has been the big reason why Ballard has made so few moves.  He has put the team culture as one of the main focuses of his regime and you cant judge another player based on a phone conversation with their agent.  

[BProland85]

Would Justin Houston not fit this defense at all? I would be surprised if Ballard doesn't at least entertain making an offer to him. We desperately need an edge rusher to also be an example for our younger guys (Turay, Lewis, Muhammed). 

 

 

[BProland85]

21 minutes ago, csmopar said:

 

 

We could use someone like Justin Houston if Ballard thinks he could fit this defense as a pass rush specialist. 

[Defjamz26]

Ballard should make a play for Randall Cobb. He’s 28 and could play in the slot for us. 

[TomDiggs]

Just now, Defjamz26 said:

Ballard should make a play for Randall Cobb. He’s 28 and could play in the slot for us. 

 

Wouldn't be a bad signing. I prefer Tate but would be happy with any additional WR help to add to the Funchess signing.

 

For what it is worth, Cobb is set to visit New Orleans, which would be a great spot for him to land too.

[Mr.Debonair]

I think we are done in the WR FA market. I think the organization is wild about Cain. If we get another it'll likely be thru the draft

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I think we are done at WR also. If we sign anymore there would be to many.  Unless they bring Inman back for some depth.

[Hoose]

3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

I think we are done at WR also. If we sign anymore there would be to many.  Unless they bring Inman back for some depth.

I agree. Inman would be the exception. Otherwise, they will roll with the young guys, including the WR they select in the 2nd round. 

[TomDiggs]

I am fairly sure you guys are right and we are done in the WR market. That said, I am not super high on Pascal or Rogers (despite his RFA tender) and not super high on the prospects of Johnson either.

 

So I would love to have a group consisting of TY/Funchess/Cain/Another FA/Draft pick

 

Then I would let Fountain, Johnson, Pascal and Rogers fight it out for a potential 6th WR spot if we kept that many.

 

At the end of the day though, it sure does sound like we will head into the year w the exact same WRs as last year other than Funchess and hopefully seeing what Cain can do.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

It looks like Funchess turned down a two year deal worth more money because he wanted to play for the colts. We need that kind of player.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

19 minutes ago, TomDiggs said:

I am fairly sure you guys are right and we are done in the WR market. That said, I am not super high on Pascal or Rogers (despite his RFA tender) and not super high on the prospects of Johnson either.

 

So I would love to have a group consisting of TY/Funchess/Cain/Another FA/Draft pick

 

Then I would let Fountain, Johnson, Pascal and Rogers fight it out for a potential 6th WR spot if we kept that many.

 

At the end of the day though, it sure does sound like we will head into the year w the exact same WRs as last year other than Funchess and hopefully seeing what Cain can do.

Let’s say Cain does really well. I think Funchess is going to surprise everyone.. Rogers and pascal will be the fourth WR. I am ok with that. I think we could have a pretty strong WR group if Cain is ready. 

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[TomDiggs]

5 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

It looks like Funchess turned down a two year deal worth more money because he wanted to play for the colts. We need that kind of player.

I was just commenting on this in another thread. Holder's article is cryptic, however.

 

The two year deal worth more money does not say anything about guarantees and such.

 

It very well could have been a 2 year deal where he got 2 years and $16M (for example) but where the only thing guaranteed was his 2019 salary and it was structured in a way where he got (as an example) $8M in 2019 and $8M in 2020 but that 2020 was salary only w no guarantees.

 

And if so, maybe we came in and said "let us pay you more this year to bypass your guaranteed money and also give you the chance to bet on yourself in return for no long term commitment".

 

I would be super curious to hear the actual specs of the 2 year deal he passed up.

 

Because unless it was a deal where he had more than $10M guaranteed on the table, he didn't do this just because he wanted to play for us. He did it because he got the same or more guaranteed upfront and gets to hit FA again afterwards.

 

I still think Funchess could be a nice fit here, but I am not yet convinced that he took a discount to be here based on not knowing the specs that Holder was referring to.

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[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I saw a interview with funchess a week ago and I loved the first thing out of his mouth was winning a SB. He talked  a lot about hard work. He is a great kid. I think he is going to play really well with Luck.

[creid]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

 

 

Mack - on a rookie contract and hasn't hit 1000 yards. 

 

Bell - 5 years of proving to be the best RB in the league and can Gert 200 scrimmage yards. 

 

Get outta here with that. 

 

I do agree it's not nessesarily smart to spend out money on RB. Good thing we decided to spend it on pass rush and secondary... 

[creid]

1 minute ago, creid said:

 

Mack - on a rookie contract and hasn't hit 1000 yards. 

 

Bell - 5 years of proving to be the best RB in the league and can Get 2000 scrimmage yards. 

 

Get outta here with that. 

 

I do agree it's not nessesarily smart to spend out money on RB. Good thing we decided to spend it on pass rush and secondary... 

 

[csmopar]

2 minutes ago, creid said:

 

Mack - on a rookie contract and hasn't hit 1000 yards. 

 

Bell - 5 years of proving to be the best RB in the league and can Gert 200 scrimmage yards. 

 

Get outta here with that. 

 

I do agree it's not nessesarily smart to spend out money on RB. Good thing we decided to spend it on pass rush and secondary... 

he hit 908 in only 12 games... he was 3rd behind Gurley and Elliot for in total yards and YPC those 12 games.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Sounds like Desir may be back from that Holder article. Saying it will be resolved soon.