2018 - 2019 Indiana Pacers and everything NBA thread

[oldunclemark]

6 minutes ago, akcolt said:

Keep it in Bogy’s hands the final 73 seconds

Matthews took a bad shot...I know he makes some of those..but that was low-percentage.

 

Nobody really wants the shot

 

down 3.....94-91...:12 l;eft

 

[MTC]

Ouch.

[oldunclemark]

Awful possession...both ways

 

We played very hard but we crumbled in the 4th quarter

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, MTC said:

Ouch.

Back to Back   ouch

 

10-0 run and we lost 98-91

...and we lose

[oldunclemark]

But the secret is: They nuetralize our centers....again

Myles had 8 points and 3 rebounds.

Sabonis had 1 point and 5 rebounds

 

They average a combined 27 and 16

 

If that continues..we get swept

 

[MTC]

I couldn’t watch most of the game tonight. Just caught the last six minutes of the 4th quarter. I saw enough to claim that Coach McMillan was lost in his game plan.

[akcolt]

5 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Awful possession...both ways

 

We played very hard but we crumbled in the 4th quarter

We missed Vic on the road in big moments. We just don’t have anyone that’s used to being the guy. I think it’s more not being comfortable initiating   then not wanting the shot. Tyreek is the only guy who has any experience being the shot maker but not with this group. 

 

Back to Indy defend our home court 

[oldunclemark]

5 minutes ago, akcolt said:

We missed Vic on the road in big moments. We just don’t have anyone that’s used to being the guy. I think it’s more not being comfortable initiating   then not wanting the shot. Tyreek is the only guy who has any experience being the shot maker but not with this group. 

 

Back to Indy defend our home court 

I think we can win...We have defended them ….84 and 98 points..

But we have to score what we usually score..We have to make open shots

[oldunclemark]

10 minutes ago, MTC said:

I couldn’t watch most of the game tonight. Just caught the last six minutes of the 4th quarter. I saw enough to claim that Coach McMillan was lost in his game plan.

We had a great game plan.

We miss open shots..Our centers took 10 shots.

We were 6 of 10 on free throws..what's causing that?

McDermott looks scared..and Sabonis took ONE shot

 

I think we return to form at home because there's no reason we cant score 100 points..except that we're choking up shooting

[2006Coltsbestever]

It's tough when you do not have your best player/closer (Oladipo) in games like these. Pacers had their chances and even had a decent size lead early in the 4th Qtr. We would've won tonight had we had Oladipo. Series is now 2-0 and pretty much over unfortunately.

[MTC]

I don’t want to fully blame Coach McMillan. So many players are just not effective.

 

What happened to Sabonis and Turner? 

[oldunclemark]

1 hour ago, MTC said:

I don’t want to fully blame Coach McMillan. So many players are just not effective.

 

What happened to Sabonis and Turner? 

....I dont know..

Baynes and Al Horford have not just kept them from scoring but kept them from even getting shots..

They're very physical and we're not getting calls but that's now breaking news in a road playoff game

 

...and even with that...we're up 12 in the third quarter of Game 2 and up 9 at the half of Game one..

 

We are playing so well defensively…..but so are they.

They're really only using 8 players

We should win at home

 

 

 

[akcolt]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

It's tough when you do not have your best player/closer (Oladipo) in games like these. Pacers had their chances and even had a decent size lead early in the 4th Qtr. We would've won tonight had we had Oladipo. Series is now 2-0 and pretty much over unfortunately.

It’s not over just yet We win both home games and it’s best 2 of 3. It would have been nice to get a W in Boston We have to play a full 4 quarters which we haven’t done in this series 

[Myles]

I hope the Pacers win a couple, at least, in this series.  Good experience.      

[oldunclemark]

Next two games are on National TV.

ABC.....'the mothership'

Prime time...8:30 Friday night...1 p.m. Sunday

 

I guess the Celtics are really popular

[oldunclemark]

down 41-28 at the quarter..

Boston shooting 66%...with eight 3s

 

They'll cool off, right?

[akcolt]

Not the start we wanted at home It’s better they can’t miss in the 1st if it’s going to happen 

[oldunclemark]

Strong comeback..up 61-59 at the half.....

Tyreke Evans with 15 at the half...

 

Myles and Sabonis aren't really being guarded..away from the basket

Boston is daring them to make jump shots

 

But we look good..only 3 turnovers. Feels like the first two games, to be honest

[MTC]

Just got back to watch the second half. Can someone summarize how the Pacers have played so far? I haven't kept up.

[MTC]

I'd be surprised if Darren Collison is brought back next year. He has really played poorly in this series.

[oldunclemark]

21 minutes ago, MTC said:

Just got back to watch the second half. Can someone summarize how the Pacers have played so far? I haven't kept up.

Playing really hard....hustling.....only 5 turnovers  ...but 43% shooting''

Its really a struggle….

…..74-71 Boston late 3rd

 

 

 

[oldunclemark]

80-73 Boston after 3 Q

They scored 41 in the first Q....but 39 since then

But they are doubling off our centers

They are letting them shoot jump shots.

Myles is 4-for-10...Sabonis is 3 of 9

 

Its working for them

[akcolt]

7 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Playing really hard....hustling.....only 5 turnovers  ...but 43% shooting''

Its really a struggle….

…..74-71 Boston late 3rd

 

 

 

It really has been a struggle. T. Evans has given us good minutes in this series. 

[oldunclemark]

Gotta leaves Evans out there at the end..

Evans and Matthews and Cory Joseph to guard Kyrie

 

90-87  mid-4th  ...just need a couple of made shots

[MTC]

Poor offense... again.

[Bluefire4]

Just can't do enough offensively without Oladipo. Not surprising.

[oldunclemark]

6 minutes ago, MTC said:

Poor offense... again.

That's it...42% from the floor.

We just cant make shots when we need 'em

They can

1 minute ago, Bluefire4 said:

Just can't do enough offensively without Oladipo. Not surprising.

You're right..

We are what everybody said we are

[oldunclemark]

Evans gave us 19....Myles had 13... Sabonis 12...

But at the end of the game....who takes the shot. We don't have that guy

We haven't scored 100 yet in the series

 

3 games to none....That's 'Dead Man's Curve'  

(and you don't come back from Dead Man's Curve)

[aaron11]

hate to say it but this would have been a good year to tank.  you can call it gathering assets and trading up in the draft if you like that better 

 

where do we go from here now? 

[2006Coltsbestever]

32 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

hate to say it but this would have been a good year to tank.  you can call it gathering assets and trading up in the draft if you like that better 

 

where do we go from here now? 

We re-sign Bogdanovic and Young, bring most of the team back. Turner and Sabonis will be back. I would let Collison and Evans go to free up Cap Space. Then see what is out there in Free Agency. Oladipo will be healthy next season. It should be clear to everyone if Oladipo was healthy we were headed to 53 or 54 wins with the team we have now. We won 48 without him for a lot of the season. Had that been the case we probably would've made the ECFinals because the East is wide open. This series against Boston doesn't shock me at all, why should it shock anyone? We do not have our best player who is also our closer. I believe with him we would be up 2-1 in this series.

[MTC]

1 hour ago, aaron11 said:

hate to say it but this would have been a good year to tank.  you can call it gathering assets and trading up in the draft if you like that better 

 

where do we go from here now? 

 

This is just my prediction, but I think everyone will be back except Darren Collison, Wesley Matthews, Tyreke Evans, and Cory Joseph.

 

Aaron Holliday will be the backup point guard and Pacers will try their best to get Kemba Walker.

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, MTC said:

 

This is just my prediction, but I think everyone will be back except Darren Collison, Tyreke Evans, and Cory Joseph.

 

Aaron Holliday will be the backup point guard and Pacers will try their best to get Kemba Walker.

 

 

That is my thinking as well.

[oldunclemark]

42 minutes ago, MTC said:

 

This is just my prediction, but I think everyone will be back except Darren Collison, Wesley Matthews, Tyreke Evans, and Cory Joseph.

 

Aaron Holliday will be the backup point guard and Pacers will try their best to get Kemba Walker.

 

 

I hope that is the way they want to go...

The guys you mention are key to our defensive excellence..BUT

….we are a team that lacks offense.....in a league that screams for offense

...when I watch Portland play OKC.....those teams have firepower for big runs.

We cant ask limited offensive players to score 20 a night..

Bogdonavic is the exception, not the rule

 

 

We can bring most everybody back and we'll win maybe 48-50 and be the 4-5 seed

..and we'll be out in the first round

We don't need to have an illusion of winning 60 games with these same players who have won 48 two years in a row.

 

 

 

[crazycolt1]

This is what I expected. Without Victor we don't have that one leader player who can make a difference.

Even with Victor we are still that 48-55 win team.

Till Simon gets off some money to sign one or two big time players we will never have a chance at a championship.

Pacers are a fun team to watch when they are clicking but when they are not clicking it is real bad. Shooting themselves in the foot is what I am seeing in the playoffs.

[oldunclemark]

On ‎4‎/‎20‎/‎2019 at 8:48 AM, aaron11 said:

hate to say it but this would have been a good year to tank.  you can call it gathering assets and trading up in the draft if you like that better 

 

where do we go from here now? 

We were contenders to win the East.  We were 25-11 when Vic was hurt...and 23-23 the rest of the way.   This wasn't a year to tank. This was our year to win.

 

We are at a crossroads because we have six key unrestricted free agents (Collison, Evans, Joseph, Matthews, Thad Young and Bogan Bogdonavic)….

 

I think Young is the heart of the team. All his teammates say so.

Bogdonavic is a shooter we must have and he has great value..

But, unless Im mistaken, all five of these players are 30 or older

 

What would you say if we let all six go, make a big bucks offer to Kemba Walker, Tobias Harris  or Jimmy Butler and moved Holiday, McDermott  and Leaf into major roles.

 

 

 

 

 

23 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

This is what I expected. Without Victor we don't have that one leader player who can make a difference.

Even with Victor we are still that 48-55 win team.

Till Simon gets off some money to sign one or two big time players we will never have a chance at a championship.

 

Which 'big time' players?

Who do you want?  Who can we get?

[aaron11]

14 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

We were contenders to win the East. 

key word there is were.  that wasnt true after his injury 

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

key word there is were.  that wasnt true after his injury 

No, the key words are '14 over .500'

With a 25-11 record, you what, 'throw' the last 46 games

Refuse to play?  Go 0-46

 

..and even then, you're 25-57 and others draft ahead of you.

It wasn't an option

 

[MTC]

More likely than not the last game of the season today. Enjoy it while it lasts.

[oldunclemark]

5 minutes ago, MTC said:

More likely than not the last game of the season today. Enjoy it while it lasts.

Could be...…..

..we need a big game from Myles on offense..and we need something from McDermott

[oldunclemark]

up 23-21 at the Q

 

Same thing: They are giving Sabonis and Turner jump shots...so they can double on Bogdonavic….

 

Good defense/.not enough offense...