2018 - 2019 Indiana Pacers and everything NBA thread

[Colts_Fan12]

it would be so hard being a fan of a team with the best odds just to watch you team get the top pick stolen by someone so far below you 

[2006Coltsbestever]

My takes on the lottery. Of course the Pelicans will take Zion which now means they will trade Davis for sure. Davis is leaving after the 2020 Season no matter what is what I heard on the radio. So they have to get something in return. There is a rumor again that the Lakers could fork out Kuzma, Ingram, but now their #4 pick to the Pelicans for Davis. The Pelicans will want to build around Zion.

 

The Grizz picking #2 will take Ja Morant IMO which opens the door for them trading Mike Conley because they play the same position. Morant will be their PGuard of the future.

 

Knicks will take RJ Barrett IMO.

 

-At least now nobody can say the draft is rigged because the Knicks or Lakers didn't get the #1 pick.

[Jared Cisneros]

16 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

My takes on the lottery. Of course the Pelicans will take Zion which now means they will trade Davis for sure. Davis is leaving after the 2020 Season no matter what is what I heard on the radio. So they have to get something in return. There is a rumor again that the Lakers could fork out Kuzma, Ingram, but now their #4 pick to the Pelicans for Davis. The Pelicans will want to build around Zion.

 

The Grizz picking #2 will take Ja Morant IMO which opens the door for them trading Mike Conley because they play the same position. Morant will be their PGuard of the future.

 

Knicks will take RJ Barrett IMO.

 

-At least now nobody can say the draft is rigged because the Knicks or Lakers didn't get the #1 pick.

Knicks had the best odds to get the no1 pick if I remember right, and the Lakers were supposed to get pick 11. I still think they rigged it for L.A. in case Lebron stays and because it's L.A. Moving from 11 to 4 just seems like it's good luck to the casuals without giving off the rigged vibe. I still think the NBA threw them a bone so they get a solid player.

[oldunclemark]

55 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

did you never watch Leonard play before injury?? you sound like a fool 

and you sound like a troll.....stop yourself

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Knicks had the best odds to get the no1 pick if I remember right, and the Lakers were supposed to get pick 11. I still think they rigged it for L.A. in case Lebron stays and because it's L.A. Moving from 11 to 4 just seems like it's good luck to the casuals without giving off the rigged vibe. I still think the NBA threw them a bone so they get a solid player.

Getting in the Top 2 was critical though because of Zion and Morant. Outside of that the draft is a crapshoot. Lakers getting the #4 does give the Lakers more ammo to trade for Davis, I will give you that.

[oldunclemark]

23 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

My takes on the lottery. Of course the Pelicans will take Zion which now means they will trade Davis for sure. Davis is leaving after the 2020 Season no matter what is what I heard on the radio. So they have to get something in return. There is a rumor again that the Lakers could fork out Kuzma, Ingram, but now their #4 pick to the Pelicans for Davis. The Pelicans will want to build around Zion.

 

The Grizz picking #2 will take Ja Morant IMO which opens the door for them trading Mike Conley because they play the same position. Morant will be their PGuard of the future.

 

Knicks will take RJ Barrett IMO.

 

-At least now nobody can say the draft is rigged because the Knicks or Lakers didn't get the #1 pick.

The Grizz might not take a guard...….They might take Barrett...

..and keep Conley...   Memphis loves Conley..

 

That's a start on a playoff team...

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

The Grizz might not take a guard...….They might take Barrett...

..and keep Conley...   Memphis loves Conley..

 

That's a start on a playoff team...

I would be shocked if they passed on Morant but if they take Barrett then your point is valid.

[oldunclemark]

4 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Knicks had the best odds to get the no1 pick if I remember right, and the Lakers were supposed to get pick 11. I still think they rigged it for L.A. in case Lebron stays and because it's L.A. Moving from 11 to 4 just seems like it's good luck to the casuals without giving off the rigged vibe. I still think the NBA threw them a bone so they get a solid player.

Jared...This is the first time I see an antidote to tanking..

The teams with the worst record did not get the top pick.

The actual odds don't favor anybody.

Folks say that the lottery is rigged EVERY year....but if it was..the Knicks would get the top pick

 

It was randomly fair this time. That's actually good for the NBA.

 

[Colts_Fan12]

7 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

and you sound like a troll.....stop yourself

I'm a troll cause I like Leonard lol whatever mark 

 

yet here you are the only one surprised by how good Leonard was. you dont find that the least bit odd??

[Jared Cisneros]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Getting in the Top 2 was critical though because of Zion and Morant. Outside of that the draft is a crapshoot. Lakers getting the #4 does give the Lakers more ammo to trade for Davis, I will give you that.

That's a big part of it. Lakers can give the #4 pick and Kuzma maybe for Davis. They have Lebron, Davis, and a big FA to make another run for Lebron. Multiple outlets are calling out the lottery possibly being rigged, so the NBA couldn't gift the Lakers with Zion without major backlash. They still jumped up 7 spots though.

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I would be shocked if they passed on Morant but if they take Barrett then your point is valid.

I don't know how good Morant is...but all I read about Memphis is that Mike Conley is an icon..the epitome of what they want as a player..

 

They didn't think they'd get the no.2 pick

Isnt Barrett as good as anybody in college

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

I'm a troll cause I like Leonard lol whatever mark 

again....don't troll...……..dont pick fights.

Don't you have any thoughts on the draft?

[Colts_Fan12]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

again....don't troll...……..dont pick fights.

Don't you have any thoughts on the draft?

whatever fool move on your confused 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

I don't know how good Morant is...but all I read about Memphis is that Mike Conley is an icon..the epitome of what they want as a player..

 

They didn't think they'd get the no.2 pick

Isnt Barrett as good as anybody in college

Most people have Barrett rated the 3rd best player behind Zion and Morant. Morant will be a great Pro IMO, he was getting Triple Doubles last year and did average 10 assists a game along with 24.5 points a game.

[oldunclemark]

3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

That's a big part of it. Lakers can give the #4 pick and Kuzma maybe for Davis. They have Lebron, Davis, and a big FA to make another run for Lebron. Multiple outlets are calling out the lottery possibly being rigged, so the NBA couldn't gift the Lakers with Zion without major backlash. They still jumped up 7 spots though.

David Griffin (NOLA GM) is not going to give up Davis for Kuzma and the No. 4.

He will want a lot more...

Not saying the Lakers wont give him more..but Griffin will want 2 or 3 of the Lakers young players AND the No. 4

 

and what happens to Jrue Holiday at NOLA?

[Jared Cisneros]

2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Jared...This is the first time I see an antidote to tanking..

The teams with the worst record did not get the top pick.

The actual odds don't favor anybody.

Folks say that the lottery is rigged EVERY year....but if it was..the Knicks would get the top pick

 

It was randomly fair this time. That's actually good for the NBA.

 

The only time I remember the Knicks getting a rigged pick is Patrick Ewing. The Pelicans were a bit random at 1, but the real story is the Lakers were "lucky" enough to move up from 11 to 4. That will allow them to get Davis for Lebron, and start another superteam with him (which the NBA loves for ratings and because they want Lebron to be better than Jordan).

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

whatever fool move on your confused 

Troll: poster with no thought other than insult and confrontation.

Poster with no thoughts

[Jared Cisneros]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

David Griffin (NOLA GM) is not going to give up Davis for Kuzma and the No. 4.

He will want a lot more...

Not saying the Lakers wont give him more..but Griffin will want 2 or 3 of the Lakers young players AND the No. 4

 

and what happens to Jrue Holiday at NOLA?

They'll build around Holiday, Zion, Kuzma, and the no4 pick. Very good core.

[oldunclemark]

1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

The only time I remember the Knicks getting a rigged pick is Patrick Ewing. The Pelicans were a bit random at 1, but the real story is the Lakers were "lucky" enough to move up from 11 to 4. That will allow them to get Davis for Lebron, and start another superteam with him (which the NBA loves for ratings and because they want Lebron to be better than Jordan).

If its a given that the NBA loves rating and would rig the lottery to get them?

Wouldn't they give Zion Williamson to the biggest market??  New York City?

 

IN a true lottery anybody can win..NOLA had almost no chance to get the the top pick.

Now, there's not nearly as much chance that they trade Anthony Davis. Davis might want to stay and play with Zion.

 

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

They'll build around Holiday, Zion, Kuzma, and the no4 pick. Very good core.

wouldnt Holiday, Zion and Anthony Davis be an even better core?

That's all I'm saying

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Jared Cisneros said:

The only time I remember the Knicks getting a rigged pick is Patrick Ewing. The Pelicans were a bit random at 1, but the real story is the Lakers were "lucky" enough to move up from 11 to 4. That will allow them to get Davis for Lebron, and start another superteam with him (which the NBA loves for ratings and because they want Lebron to be better than Jordan).

I think the whole Jordan vs LeBron debate ended a couple of years ago when LeBron kept losing in the Finals. The younger generation = people 30 and under like to keep the debate going because they really weren't old enough to watch Jordan in his prime and players like Kareem and Magic live. They grew up watching Kobe, LeBron, Durant, etc..

[oldunclemark]

By the way....not that this is breaking news but Portland appears to have almost no chance to win any games from Golden State.

This is a bad matchup

[Colts_Fan12]

2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Troll: poster with no thought other than insult and confrontation.

Poster with no thoughts

Mark: poster who repeatedly posts outlandish things that no one agrees with yet thinks others are * because they don't agree with him. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

They'll build around Holiday, Zion, Kuzma, and the no4 pick. Very good core.

Lakers would have to give up Ingram as well with Kuzma and the #4 IMO and that is what I have been hearing on sports talk radio too.

[oldunclemark]

1 hour ago, RockThatBlue said:

They could get Ja Morant tho.

From what Im seeing RJ Barret is as god a  Morant.

That was Memphis could keep Conley who is a hero to that franchise

[oldunclemark]

3 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

Mark: poster who repeatedly posts outlandish things that no one agrees with yet thinks others are * because they don't agree with him. 

Any thoughts on the lottery?  Any thoughts at all. Try thinking, not trolling

[Jared Cisneros]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

If its a given that the NBA loves rating and would rig the lottery to get them?

Wouldn't they give Zion Williamson to the biggest market??  New York City?

 

IN a true lottery anybody can win..NOLA had almost no chance to get the the top pick.

Now, there's not nearly as much chance that they trade Anthony Davis. Davis might want to stay and play with Zion.

 

2 things. First, Zion could potentially bust. It really doesn't matter where he goes at this point. I wasn't arguing the no1 pick, just the Lakers 7 pick rise (which I do believe is rigged to make it easier to get Davis for Lebron). Second, the NBA knows people think the rigged the lottery for New York already and they are being called out on it. New Orleans is a safe choice to completely safeguard the actual lottery rig, the Lakers.

[oldunclemark]

The Bulls are feeling the blues...

They tanked all year and ended up with the 7th pick

[Jared Cisneros]

6 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

wouldnt Holiday, Zion and Anthony Davis be an even better core?

That's all I'm saying

Davis would have to choose Zion over Lebron, I don't believe he would.

[oldunclemark]

Just now, Jared Cisneros said:

2 things. First, Zion could potentially bust. It really doesn't matter where he goes at this point. I wasn't arguing the no1 pick, just the Lakers 7 pick rise (which I do believe is rigged to make it easier to get Davis for Lebron). Second, the NBA knows people think the rigged the lottery for New York already and they are being called out on it. New Orleans is a safe choice to completely safeguard the actual lottery rig, the Lakers.

That's a deep conspiracy theory,  Jared...That's deep state, my man

 

the new NOLA GM is determined to keep Davis and his argument begins with the chance t play with Zion.

Of course, Zion could bust...but Davis could get hurt, too

[Jared Cisneros]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Lakers would have to give up Ingram as well with Kuzma and the #4 IMO and that is what I have been hearing on sports talk radio too.

That would be very good for the Pelicans as I think Davis will probably leave them anyway.

[oldunclemark]

2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Davis would have to choose Zion over Lebron, I don't believe he would.

Really?   I do. LeBron brings the media circus.....

Zion brings flashy dunks and a smile

[oldunclemark]

 Davis said he wants to play for a winner. Who's a surer playoff team next year now: Lakers or NOLA

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

Really?   I do. LeBron brings the media circus.....

Zion brings flashy dunks and a smile

Davis has already burned too many bridges to stay in NO. Many are saying that as well. By the way he acted last season, I would almost bet he gets traded to the Lakers now for sure. Pelicans want to start fresh and have their man in Zion to do so. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

 Davis said he wants to play for a winner. Who's a surer playoff team next year now: Lakers or NOLA

If the Lakers trade for Davis and pair him up with LeBron and get another Star in Free Agency the Lakers will easily make the playoffs. 

[Jared Cisneros]

2 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Really?   I do. LeBron brings the media circus.....

Zion brings flashy dunks and a smile

Lebron, Davis, Top FA+decent remaining Lakers team would bring a championship IMO. GS is done after this year. It'll be Lebron's conference for a 2-3 year period. As I said, Zion may bust and he has to acclimate to the NBA.

[Jared Cisneros]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

If the Lakers trade for Davis and pair him up with LeBron and get another Star in Free Agency the Lakers will easily make the playoffs. 

Bingo my friend!

[oldunclemark]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Davis has already burned too many bridges to stay in NO. Many are saying that as well. By the way he acted last season, I would almost bet he gets traded to the Lakers now for sure. Pelicans want to start fresh and have their man in Zion to do so. 

I don't know CBE...have you heard David Griffin, the new GM...His No,1 goal is to get Anthony Davis to resign..

 

If Zion is a superstar, then NOLA has two super stars under contract ( and Holiday is a near-star)...and you know what we say about what you need to contend

Remember that Davis 'burned bridges" with the old management, not Griffin

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Bingo my friend!

Yeah LeBron may not be the best of all-time but he is the best of this last decade and you give him 2 other stars he will be tough to beat.

[oldunclemark]

3 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Lebron, Davis, Top FA+decent remaining Lakers team would bring a championship IMO. GS is done after this year. It'll be Lebron's conference for a 2-3 year period. As I said, Zion may bust and he has to acclimate to the NBA.

You are the first to suggest that Zion will bust.

You could be right.

 

But if you are New Orleans.....you have Davis and Holiday and Williamson under contract for next season.

Why do anything before the all-star break