Peyton Is Getting Healthier

[BmoreColt]

I am surprised nobody posted this already, but mort reported on NFL 32 that Peyton is throwing with a tight spiral and good velocity. He has spoken with the receivers catching from Manning and Archie. This I would assume isnt first hand observation, but apparently Manning can make all the throws he does from the passing tree in pre game warm up.

[Smonroe]

I don't mean to be a downer, but let me ask you this:

Do you expect anyone who's allowed to watch or participate to say anything negative about how he's throwing?

[doogansquest]

This is no surprise to me, but thanks for the information!

I suspect Peyton will be his old (younger) self in 2012. Now if only we can work out a new contract...

I don't mean to be a downer, but let me ask you this:

Do you expect anyone who's allowed to watch or participate to say anything negative about how he's throwing?

As opposed to an "expert" source for Kravitz claiming Manning has a noodle arm (which most people here accepted immediately). Or perhaps the expert sources for John Clayton who claimed "the strength just isn't there..." (Again, everyone here accepted.)

I expect Frogs and cap-experts to quickly dismiss this information, as anything positive regarding Manning just isn't allowed.

It's all speculation at this point, but the real logic has thus far pointed to two things:

1. Manning and Irsay are NOT at odds with each other.

2. Manning is getting healthier.

[Wyld1]

I don't mean to be a downer, but let me ask you this:

Do you expect anyone who's allowed to watch or participate to say anything negative about how he's throwing?

I would have to agree wih this as much as it pains me. I have been a Colt's fan since the early 70's with Bert Jones as my all time favorite. I had a second QB I admired from the time, Archie Manning. Though Archie's meddeling in this situation coupled with other situations leads me to have lost much faith in his word. Show me a video or let's hear from a reciever that caught these passes and I will have some faith in the situation....without it, it's just more subterfuge, imvho.

[eli4625]

There is little chance Peyton is anywhere close to being NFL ready for whatever other NFL signs him. Our QB Andrew Luck will be 100% Healthy and under center for all 16 games.

[CR91]

i stopped listening to the media a long time ago. until i see peyton throwing myself, i will not believe anything the media says. always reports that contradict each other and i am sick of it.

[Fx Stryker]

There is little chance Peyton is anywhere close to being NFL ready for whatever other NFL signs him. Our QB Andrew Luck will be 100% Healthy and under center for all 16 games.

Currently our QB is Peyton Manning, and Andrew isn't even in the NFL. You can't call him our QB.

[icf]

Another one of these times when

Posititve media reports equal True

Negative media reports equal made up lies....

[Smonroe]

This is no surprise to me, but thanks for the information!

I suspect Peyton will be his old (younger) self in 2012. Now if only we can work out a new contract...

As opposed to an "expert" source for Kravitz claiming Manning has a noodle arm (which most people here accepted immediately). Or perhaps the expert sources for John Clayton who claimed "the strength just isn't there..." (Again, everyone here accepted.)

I expect Frogs and cap-experts to quickly dismiss this information, as anything positive regarding Manning just isn't allowed.

It's all speculation at this point, but the real logic has thus far pointed to two things:

1. Manning and Irsay are NOT at odds with each other.

2. Manning is getting healthier.

I personally disregard any "sources" unless they're named. We know Peyton has been throwing with Gonzo, and a few others. They've said he looks good. That doesn't mean he's throwing 100% or even 80.

We also know he was good enough at the end of last season to play redzone, so he's not far off.

Personally, I'm hoping the nerve clicks and he's throwing bullets when they work him out. Then we'll see who flinches.

[CR91]

Another one of these times when

Posititve media reports equal True

Negative media reports equal made up lies....

thats not true. the way i see it. no one knows how peyton is expect for him. the media is just fishing for a story.

[ThatOneColtFan]

I would have to agree wih this as much as it pains me. I have been a Colt's fan since the early 70's with Bert Jones as my all time favorite. I had a second QB I admired from the time, Archie Manning. Though Archie's meddeling in this situation coupled with other situations leads me to have lost much faith in his word. Show me a video or let's hear from a reciever that caught these passes and I will have some faith in the situation....without it, it's just more subterfuge, imvho.

OMG, Bert Jones fan here, you my friend are not alone!!!

[Peyton and Eli fan]

I tend to trust Mort over others when it comes to Manning, but it might be because I want to hear good news. Manning seems to trust Mort, though.

[icf]

thats not true. the way i see it. no one knows how peyton is expect for him. the media is just fishing for a story.

My point was, if they had reported that Manning was no where near ready and throwing like a 5 year old girl.....the posts by some on here would be how they are "just fishing for a story" and trying to make things up to generate news.

I agree with you....nobody in the media knows how he's doing.

[CR91]

nobody in the media knows how he's doing.

which is why i dont listen to anything they say

[Wyld1]

OMG, Bert Jones fan here, you my friend are not alone!!!

I saw Unitas after his prime but Bert was incredible! No Offensive line and injuries derailed his career....darn shame as the man was the best QB I ever saw.

[BuildtheMonster1285]

There is little chance Peyton is anywhere close to being NFL ready for whatever other NFL signs him. Our QB Andrew Luck will be 100% Healthy and under center for all 16 games.

Totally Agreed!

[BuildtheMonster1285]

which is why i dont listen to anything they say

Thats a good idea

[mahagga73]

which is why i dont listen to anything they say

same here,Bert was QB when I became a fan.Favorite all-time player.Too bad injuries took him down prematurely.

[mmcrazylikeafox]

I am surprised nobody posted this already, but more reports on NFL 32 that Peyton is throwing with a tight spiral and good velocity. He has spoken with the receivers catching from Manning and Archie. This I would assume isn't first hand observation, but apparently Manning can make all the throws he does from the passing tree in pre-game warm up.

I would believe this if it came from PM or Irsay directly. I do believe that PM would not waste his, the organizations, or the fans time if he wasn't making some positive improvements in arm strength but still need to hear it from him or Irsay first. I mean seriously if he was lying about his arm then whoever is interested in signing him still would have to see him throw first. And with PM's phenomenal work ethic and personal standard to excellence not withstanding his honesty and humility I doubt he would make a mockery of himself and the organization with such a charade.

[everybodysgotone]

I saw Unitas after his prime but Bert was incredible! No Offensive line and injuries derailed his career....darn shame as the man was the best QB I ever saw.

Didn't the old sayin' back in the day go something like - Bert Jones use to throw rocks at mountain lions and Roger Carr use to chase deer.

[Cynjin]

My point was, if they had reported that Manning was no where near ready and throwing like a 5 year old girl.....the posts by some on here would be how they are "just fishing for a story" and trying to make things up to generate news.

I agree with you....nobody in the media knows how he's doing.

I think it cuts both ways, people that want to see Manning finish his career here latch onto "positive" news and those that want to start over tend to latch onto the "negative" news.

[MAC]

OMG, Bert Jones fan here, you my friend are not alone!!!

There be more of us. Largely a function of age I would imagine. Unitas, Jones, Harbaugh, Manning. The ones I feel for are the ones who were teens during the 80's.

[Wyld1]

Didn't the old sayin' back in the day go something like - Bert Jones use to throw rocks at mountain lions and Roger Carr use to chase deer.

It sounds right to me! Those two and Lydell Mitchell were quite the show back in the day!

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I would have to agree wih this as much as it pains me. I have been a Colt's fan since the early 70's with Bert Jones as my all time favorite. I had a second QB I admired from the time, Archie Manning. Though Archie's meddeling in this situation coupled with other situations leads me to have lost much faith in his word. Show me a video or let's hear from a reciever that caught these passes and I will have some faith in the situation....without it, it's just more subterfuge, imvho.

Same here. Bert Jones was really special.

[FireJimCaldwell]

That is good news for him and whatever team signs him.

[everybodysgotone]

It sounds right to me! Those two and Lydell Mitchell were quite the show back in the day!

You ain't never lied. Lydell Mitchell was Marshall Faulk before Marshall Faulk was Marshall Faulk.

[WSO]

Ah

when negative news comes from ESPN its bad, the sources are unreliable, they spin stuff

when good news comes from ESPN its acceptable

This is not a shot at anyone but reminding that if you are attacking the media its a two way road

[BmoreColt]

Another one of these times when

Posititve media reports equal True

Negative media reports equal made up lies....

Yeah cause it doesn't work that way when it's a negative report. I bet I can find you all over a negative report regarding Manning.

[Smonroe]

It sounds right to me! Those two and Lydell Mitchell were quite the show back in the day!

I saw Jones play his rookie year against the Browns up in the old Cleveland stadium. I still remember some Browns fans in back of me saying "he'll never amount to anything..."

He could have been one of he all time greats if it weren't for the injuries.

[Wyld1]

You ain't never lied. Lydell Mitchell was Marshall Faulk before Marshall Faulk was Marshall Faulk.

Oh yeah...great all purpose back, mr. excitement! I still can't fathom how he and Franco Harris shared the backfield at Penn State!

[Susie Q]

That is good news for him and whatever team signs him.

Which could be anyone including the Colts. Sorry had to say it.

[everybodysgotone]

I saw Jones play his rookie year against the Browns up in the old Cleveland stadium. I still remember some Browns fans in back of me saying "he'll never amount to anything..."

He could have been one of he all time greats if it weren't for the injuries.

I believe that, too. There were some amazing win streaks with him & some insane ypc stats with Carr and Mitchell setting RB reception marks. Plus everything else. Awesome player.

[FireJimCaldwell]

Which could be anyone including the Colts. Sorry had to say it.

Yeah, it could be...

[Wyld1]

I saw Jones play his rookie year against the Browns up in the old Cleveland stadium. I still remember some Browns fans in back of me saying "he'll never amount to anything..."

He could have been one of he all time greats if it weren't for the injuries.

I agree! Ernie Acorsi said that under different circumstances he would have been the greatest NFL PLAYER EVER. Ernie knew a thing or wo....or three ;)

[BmoreColt]

Marshal said it a few posts above, Manning wouldnt waste everyones and his own time. IMO if Manning is training he is gonna play next year, where remains to be seen. I would like it to be in Indy, and thought most in here would too which is why I shared what I heard.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

You ain't never lied. Lydell Mitchell was Marshall Faulk before Marshall Faulk was Marshall Faulk.

I remember as a kid I went to a MNF game Colts vs dolphins at the Orange Bowl. And I had a clicker like the pitching coaches have to keep track of the pitch count.And I kept track of Lydelll Mitchells yardage.I don't know why, it wasn't like I couldn't find out later.

[everybodysgotone]

Oh yeah...great all purpose back, mr. excitement! I still can't fathom how he and Franco Harris shared the backfield at Penn State!

I was livin' on the Severne River outside Balt. back in those days.....catchin' rockfish from the shore as a kid. Lots of great players back in those days. John Dutton, Don McCauley.......

[ColtJ82]

I personally disregard any "sources" unless they're named. We know Peyton has been throwing with Gonzo, and a few others. They've said he looks good. That doesn't mean he's throwing 100% or even 80.

We also know he was good enough at the end of last season to play redzone, so he's not far off.

Personally, I'm hoping the nerve clicks and he's throwing bullets when they work him out. Then we'll see who flinches.

You should know that any report stating that Gonzo lasted more than 1 throwing session with Manning should be considered to have zero credibility. Gonzo was injured on the 2nd route of the 1st session last November. There is no timetable for his return.

[everybodysgotone]

I remember as a kid I went to a MNF game Colts vs dolphins at the Orange Bowl. And I had a clicker like the pitching coaches have to keep track of the pitch count.And I kept track of Lydelll Mitchells yardage.I don't know why, it wasn't like I couldn't find out later.

That's awesome. Prolly.....Czonka & Griese, Warfield, for the Fins then that about right?

[icf]

Yeah cause it doesn't work that way when it's a negative report. I bet I can find you all over a negative report regarding Manning.

Happy hunting.....

Pretty much all along I've said that nobody knows what's going on with him and his health....and regardless of what they do know I expect him to be released by March 8th.