Archer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I'd probably be too mad to sleep if Ragland was selected... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Jack Conklin OT out of Michigan St I don't think picking Ryan Kelly would be a bad thing either. He comes from arguably the greatest college program ever and getting a young Center in there for Andrew that is disciplined is ok with me. If we go Pass Rusher I still like Leonard Floyd, Shaq is intriguing as well, Billings would be nice to have as well on Defense. Now watch us take Derrick Henry . If that happens, the forum will go crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, Shafty138 said: Ragland just seems like a Grigson pick, good leader, thumping run defending LB, replicates a position most feel we have taken care of...... not an OL...... yep, fits the profile of a Grigson 1st rounder.... woah there...how have we "taken care of" the MLB position? Personally I'd rank defensive needs as OLB > MLB > S > CB > DL. The entire LB corp really needs an overhaul, especially since we still don't really know what we'll get from Moore or Irving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, Archer said: I'd probably be too mad to sleep if Ragland was selected... Why, because he is poor in coverage? Most young ILB are. He isn't my favorite, but he isn't a bad player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 7 hours ago, BlueShoe said: Ryan Kelly, Center, Alabama Wasn't Gump a Kick/Punt Returner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 minute ago, GwinnettColt said: Wasn't Gump a Kick/Punt Returner? If we take Gump I am predicting an easy SB win. He is at least good for 2 SP Teams TD's on Punt returns. He and Pat and Adam alone would be the ultimate SP Teams of all-time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, GwinnettColt said: Wasn't Gump a Kick/Punt Returner? Yep. From Greensboro, ALABAMA!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 minute ago, BlueShoe said: Yep. From Greensboro, ALABAMA!!! We'd have to nickname one of the players, Bubba. Luck can be Lt. Dan. I had to edit this: Luck is NOT Lt. Dan. Luck has legs. Lt. Dan ain't go no legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B~Town Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Love draft day hysteria guys suggesting grabbing second and 3rd rd talent over possible top 15 talent just for the need factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GwinnettColt Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 WIth the 18th pick: The Colts select Jihad Ward/DT/Illinois. Do I want this? No, but it's where I think they're going. That or a TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, B~Town said: Love draft day hysteria guys suggesting grabbing second and 3rd rd talent over possible top 15 talent just for the need factor But yet some players that get Drafted in Rounds 3-6 have had better career's than the Top 10 picks in many Drafts. Joe Montana - Round 3, Tom Brady - Round 6, and Terrell Davis - Round 6 just to name 3. I can actually list 100's of players that should've been taken in the Top 15 instead of some of the players that were taken in past Drafts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alawai Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, B~Town said: Love draft day hysteria guys suggesting grabbing second and 3rd rd talent over possible top 15 talent just for the need factor Gump is a 1st round talent! I'm willing to put up a box of chocolate on that! The only issues I have on Forrest is how are we gonna mow the field now that we have turf. Lol! B-town and all the others you all have a happy draft daft day!... Like B-town has said in a couple of hours let the the hysteria begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Blair Thomas went 2nd in the 1990 Draft, Emmitt Smith went 17th LOL. The Draft is a crapshoot regarding projecting who will really be Great or a Bust. Ray Lewis didn't get selected until the 26th Pick of Round 1 during the 96 Draft. He would've been their at 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B~Town Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: But yet some players that get Drafted in Rounds 3-6 have had better career's than the Top 10 picks in many Drafts. Joe Montana - Round 3, Tom Brady - Round 6, and Terrell Davis - Round 6 just to name 3. I can actually list 100's of players that should've been taken in the Top 15 instead of some of the players that were taken in past Drafts. So true look at Denver and Seattle's recent drafts they got some amazing talent in later rds . Right now nobody knows it's part of the draft hysteria love draft weekend like it's own holiday . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, B~Town said: So true look at Denver and Seattle's recent drafts they got some amazing talent in later rds . Right now nobody knows it's part of the draft hysteria love draft weekend like it's own holiday . Yeah I am looking forward to see who we pick 1st. I really don't have a strong feel on it because we could go O.Line or a Defensive player or who knows how Grigs thinks?? A lot of players in the history of the game that have been Good to Great have surprisingly came from Round 3-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 38 minutes ago, GwinnettColt said: WIth the 18th pick: The Colts select Jihad Ward/DT/Illinois. Do I want this? No, but it's where I think they're going. That or a TE. If they draft a TE, this place will melt down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Knowing us we'll do something like select the walk on offensive guard from Iowa state.... then we'll hear about how tough and gritty he is and how he has a nasty playing style or that he's a dancing bear lmao!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 46 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: Yep. From Greensboro, ALABAMA!!! Greenbow, Alabama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Shafty138 said: Ragland just seems like a Grigson pick, good leader, thumping run defending LB, replicates a position most feel we have taken care of...... not an OL...... yep, fits the profile of a Grigson 1st rounder.... It may not be a pick you like, but it won't be a bad pick. I guarantee you. You won't look back in 3 years and curse Grigson for the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Colts Fan Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I hope we don't even pick tonight... Since we are starting out with only 6 picks, I'd like to see the Colts trade down to acquire more picks (more than once preferably), and still pick up a solid guy like Ryan Kelly or Reggie Ragland at the bottom of the 1st/top of the 2nd. And with more picks to work with, maybe we could use a pick on a project like Jaylon Smith. We don't have the ammo to move up for an elite player without making a Mike Ditka/Ricky Williams type trade and shooting ourselves in the foot. So instead of taking a risk and going for a flashy "difference maker", we should play it safe and target as many "solid" players in the middle rounds as possible. I like Dorsett, but hindsight is 20/20, and we should have done this last year. Dorsett didn't turn out to be special, and we could have turned that pick into more middle-round picks on solid guys like Anderson and Parry. Quantity over quality, if you will, and since the quality might not still be there at #18, trade down for more quantity in the middle rounds. Or we could draft a punter at #18 to make sure McAfee doesn't become complacent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crestmount Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 If he's still there--Spence. If not, Kelly. If both are gone, Floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 40 minutes ago, crestmount said: If he's still there--Spence. If not, Kelly. If both are gone, Floyd Floyd will be drafted before either Spence or kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LockeDown Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Kelly if available, Ragland if Kelly's gone and Decker if Kelly and Ragland are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 2 hours ago, jvan1973 said: Why, because he is poor in coverage? Most young ILB are. He isn't my favorite, but he isn't a bad player No, I don't believe the position is very important to our D (the least important), and I like some of the young talent we have there (Sio, Irving, Sylvester). Passing up similarly rated players at more important positions that are bigger needs would be a mistake. I understand you may not agree with some of my assumptions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 The Japanese dude who fell out a window.......Nakamichi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crestmount Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I'm actually thinking we might go Whitehair--versatile OL guy who can be a starter at both C and G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Daytona Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Jason_S said: woah there...how have we "taken care of" the MLB position? Personally I'd rank defensive needs as OLB > MLB > S > CB > DL. The entire LB corp really needs an overhaul, especially since we still don't really know what we'll get from Moore or Irving. it's not much better than OL for sure..... but at least we have guys who won't get destroyed pretty much every snap at OLB, and MLB THIS season...... we have a ton of holes, but our OL gets destroyed on most plays.... at least Jackson, Mathis, and Walden can hold up most of the time... we need guys that can start at LB soon, but we should be ok game one this coming season....OL....we haven't even reached OK status for four years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Daytona Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Ragland would simply be a younger version of D'Qwell..... I'd like to not draft a guy who replicates Jackson.... we don't need 2 2 down MLB's...... we need Ragland next year, but we need OL ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosiernsavga Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I wanted Floyd but his draft stock is rising and i believe he will be gone... So I'm going say the safest pick is Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 10 hours ago, gacker65 said: How do you call Kelly a 1st rounder when he has 2 things going against at the start. I'll give you that he is a good run blocker, but Kelly lacks in Pass Pro. Second, he is from Alabama. Alabama O-line men have taken a few years to getting adjusted to the NFL and I am against taking a project to protect Luck. We need an impact player this year, instead of a project Good luck actually finding an impact rookie OLINEMAN. They all usually will take some time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacker65 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 8 hours ago, MSColtsFan said: I'd love to read what you're seeing on his pass protection. He hasn't allowed a sack in two seasons. And he wasn't flagged for a penalty in over 1000 snaps last year. I've read he sometimes struggles to read stunts, but that is universally followed by it's a minor correctable issue. He was the sixth rated high school center in the nation his senior year, so his evaluation isn't an Alabama thing exclusively - he's been highly regarded since he was 17. Just like Harrison was rated high by PFF. Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 18 minutes ago, gacker65 said: Just like Harrison was rated high by PFF. Whatever. Harrison wasn't rated by anyone as high as kelly is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacker65 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 not the point. Point was that Kelly pass blocks like J. Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 minute ago, gacker65 said: not the point. Point was that Kelly pass blocks like J. Harrison No he doesn't And if that was your point, you did a terrible job of making your point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacker65 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Review his tapes. Not saying he isn't a good run blocker. Saying I saw a lot of Harrison type pass blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 8 minutes ago, gacker65 said: Review his tapes. Not saying he isn't a good run blocker. Saying I saw a lot of Harrison type pass blocks. He gave up zero sacks and 4 hurries last year in the SEC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacker65 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Just now, jvan1973 said: He gave up zero sacks and 4 hurries on 488 pass plays last year in the SEC. Somebody else mentioned that as well. According to PFF, Harrison didn't give up very many sacks either, yet I remember 3 in the Panther's game. also, every one seems to have forgotten about the Bama O-line curse. They get drafted in the 1st round and take 2-3 years to adjust to the NFL. Then what ever just Luck's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 15 hours ago, OffensivelyPC said: Kelly, but only if we trade down. Don't care how small of compensation at this point as long as it's not at 18. oooops... sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted April 29, 2016 Author Share Posted April 29, 2016 14 hours ago, gacker65 said: How do you call Kelly a 1st rounder when he has 2 things going against at the start. I'll give you that he is a good run blocker, but Kelly lacks in Pass Pro. Second, he is from Alabama. Alabama O-line men have taken a few years to getting adjusted to the NFL and I am against taking a project to protect Luck. We need an impact player this year, instead of a project Kelly lacks in pass pro? He gave up 0 sacks last year lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gacker65 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 1 minute ago, RockThatBlue said: Kelly lacks in pass pro? He gave up 0 sacks last year lol These the same people that said J. Harrison was a good Center????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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