Updated Colts Draft (with free agency)

[BProland85]

In free agency,

 

Indy cuts - S LaRon Landry, Vick Ballard

Retired players - Reggie Wayne

Indy resigns - ILB Jerrell Freeman, Darius Butler, Mike Adams, Joe Reitz, Sergio Brown, Boom Herron, Andy Studebaker, Josh Gordy, Matt Hasselbeck, Ahmad Bradshaw

Indy signs free agents - OLB Brandon Graham, OG Clint Boling

 

Round 2 Pick 1 (T.B.): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)
Round 2 Pick 27: Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.) (B+)
Round 3 Pick 1 (T.B.): Anthony Harris, SS, Virginia (A-)
Round 3 Pick 27: Duke Johnson, RB, Miami (Fla.) (A)
Round 4 Pick 27: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B+)
Round 5 Pick 27: Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (A-)
Round 6 Pick 27: Jamison Crowder, WR, Duke (C+)
Round 6 Pick 29: Christian Lombard, OG, Notre Dame (A)
Round 7 Pick 23: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson ©

 

 

[Defjamz26]

I can't see them re-signing Freeman. His play hasn't been good and he isn't a Great player. He's average, an sometimes good, but not great. Neither is DJax but they aren't going to cut him so soon.

 

Also, Strong in the 1st is a waste of a first. Colts would be crazy to take a WR that high given some of the quality players that will be available at other positions (including positions of need). And don't pencil in a lineman so early. This staff needs to try and fix that with what they have. Holmes, Thorton, Reitz, John,etc...

[12isthenew18]

I can't see them re-signing Freeman. His play hasn't been good and he isn't a Great player. He's average, an sometimes good, but not great. Neither is DJax but they aren't going to cut him so soon.

 

Also, Strong in the 1st is a waste of a first. Colts would be crazy to take a WR that high given some of the quality players that will be available at other positions (including positions of need). And don't pencil in a lineman so early. This staff needs to try and fix that with what they have. Holmes, Thorton, Reitz, John,etc...

he's a rfa and he becomes maybe a second round tender for real cheap

[12isthenew18]

bradshaw wont be back

[COLTS449]

We need to be more aggressive than this in FA IMO. If we add a couple key pieces we'll be one of the top 3 or 4 Super Bowl contenders instead of a fringe Super Bowl team. I want to see us go after guys like Orakpo (May come cheap on a 1year deal) Dan Williams, McCourty, Iupati, Wisnewski (C for Oakland) ETC. Obviously we cant sign all these guys, but I hope we sign 2 or so.

[Yoshinator]

Strong is my 2nd favorite receiver in this draft. If Grigson could pull off a trade down (our 1st for an early 2nd and 3rd and still get Strong), I'm all for it. I like Drango better than Flowers, but I wouldn't be disappointed with either. Harris is a solid SS. It would be really awesome if we could get Cody Prewitt and Anthony Harris, but that's a pipe dream. Duke Johnson is a nice RB, though I will admit I haven't watched much tape on him. Crowder would be a solid kick and punt returner at worst, and I don't know much about the rest, but they seem to fill needs well. 

 

I would like to sign KJ Wright in FA, but that may not be possible. i think you did a good job.

[jameszeigler834]

I can't see them re-signing Freeman. His play hasn't been good and he isn't a Great player. He's average, an sometimes good, but not great. Neither is DJax but they aren't going to cut him so soon.

 

Also, Strong in the 1st is a waste of a first. Colts would be crazy to take a WR that high given some of the quality players that will be available at other positions (including positions of need). And don't pencil in a lineman so early. This staff needs to try and fix that with what they have. Holmes, Thorton, Reitz, John,etc...

Jacksons play has improved a bit the last few weeks but freeman I don't know what's wrong with him.

[Boiler_Colt]

bradshaw wont be back

 

People said that last year too. I wouldn't bet against it, he's cheap.

[Boiler_Colt]

I think we absolutely have to try to solidify the Right Guard position in FA. Iupati is going to hit the market and mostly likely one or both of the Saint's guards (Evans and Grubbs) will be cut.  That's a position where there probably won't be much of an immediate upgrade available in the draft, plus we need to try to add young playmakers on defense.

[COLTS449]

I think we absolutely have to try to solidify the Right Guard position in FA. Iupati is going to hit the market and mostly likely one or both of the Saint's guards (Evans and Grubbs) will be cut.  That's a position where there probably won't be much of an immediate upgrade available in the draft, plus we need to try to add young playmakers on defense.

 

I agree 150% on the Guard situation. We need a proven player who instantly upgrades our line.

[Defjamz26]

I agree 150% on the Guard situation. We need a proven player who instantly upgrades our line.

Yeah. And let one of these young guys learn behind a vet. I like the idea of Iupati.

[loudnproudcolt]

You forgot about Donald Thomas as far as being cut. That is 3.5 in cap space. Also as far as a WR in the first round. If we end up as the team to sign Duron Carter from the CFL, that may alleviate the need to take a WR, at least early on or if someone falls and is BPA.

[NewColtsFan]

Iupati is a great player,  but he's not coming cheap.

 

If we didn't make a successful run at the guard from San Diego last year who signed with Denver for $6.5 per  then we won't make it on Iupati who will likely command much more.    Didn't the guard from Buffalo sign with Tennessee for something like $8m per?

 

In other words, we won't be able to afford Iupati.

 

Also,  the OP had a trade down.   Our #1 for a 2nd and a 3.     Not sure we'll trade down far enough to get the 3....

 

If we're picking roughly 26/27,  then a trade down to the 1st pick of the 2nd round likely won't get the 1st pick in the 3rd round as well.     More likely the 1st pick in the 4th round.    But that's for another day a few months from now.

 

I'm just thinking out loud....

[Patagonia Chris]

In free agency,

 

Indy cuts - S LaRon Landry, Vick Ballard

Retired players - Reggie Wayne

Indy resigns - ILB Jerrell Freeman, Darius Butler, Mike Adams, Joe Reitz, Sergio Brown, Boom Herron, Andy Studebaker, Josh Gordy, Matt Hasselbeck, Ahmad Bradshaw

Indy signs free agents - OLB Brandon Graham, OG Clint Boling

 

Round 2 Pick 1 (T.B.): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)

Round 2 Pick 27: Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.) (B+)

Round 3 Pick 1 (T.B.): Anthony Harris, SS, Virginia (A-)

Round 3 Pick 27: Duke Johnson, RB, Miami (Fla.) (A)

Round 4 Pick 27: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B+)

Round 5 Pick 27: Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (A-)

Round 6 Pick 27: Jamison Crowder, WR, Duke (C+)

Round 6 Pick 29: Christian Lombard, OG, Notre Dame (A)

Round 7 Pick 23: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson ©

 

Other than cutting Landry, not sure how any of this makes the Colts a better team.

[crazycolt1]

We need to be more aggressive than this in FA IMO. If we add a couple key pieces we'll be one of the top 3 or 4 Super Bowl contenders instead of a fringe Super Bowl team. I want to see us go after guys like Orakpo (May come cheap on a 1year deal) Dan Williams, McCourty, Iupati, Wisnewski (C for Oakland) ETC. Obviously we cant sign all these guys, but I hope we sign 2 or so.

High dollar free agents are not the way to go IMO. We have a few rookie contracts running out and some of them will take a pretty good chunk of the cap if we want to keep them. Hopefully we can get the ones we want to keep on long term contracts. Any sought after lineman in free agency will cost a lot because they are hard to find. We have a pretty young team as it stands so waiting for some of those players to develop would be a good thing IMO. I have faith in Grigs to make the right moves. This upcoming draft will make of break the Colts one way or another. Year 4 out of a 5 year plan.

[crazycolt1]

Other than cutting Landry, not sure how any of this makes the Colts a better team.

As always the draft is a gamble. This upcoming one is no different. One thing that will help is the rookie salary contracts. Out of all the things changed in the last few years that helps the most.

[akcolt]

Agreed high priced FA's are trouble not a way to build a team. A couple of vets sprinkled in with a solid draft

[Manning1887]

The only Arizona State game I watched this season was against Notre Dame. I know that Strong has the size and has put up numbers, but I am not a big fan. He seems to succeed in college more based on size than route running. He doesn't seem very fluid either, he seems very lumbering and stiff. If we go WR, I would be interested in taking a look at Titus Davis from Central Michigan in the 4th round or so. 

 

Anthony Harris seems like a steal in the 3rd round. 

[Dark Superman]

In free agency,

 

Indy cuts - S LaRon Landry, Vick Ballard

Retired players - Reggie Wayne

Indy resigns - ILB Jerrell Freeman, Darius Butler, Mike Adams, Joe Reitz, Sergio Brown, Boom Herron, Andy Studebaker, Josh Gordy, Matt Hasselbeck, Ahmad Bradshaw

Indy signs free agents - OLB Brandon Graham, OG Clint Boling

 

Round 2 Pick 1 (T.B.): Jaelen Strong, WR, Arizona State (A)

Round 2 Pick 27: Ereck Flowers, OT, Miami (Fla.) (B+)

Round 3 Pick 1 (T.B.): Anthony Harris, SS, Virginia (A-)

Round 3 Pick 27: Duke Johnson, RB, Miami (Fla.) (A)

Round 4 Pick 27: Adrian Amos, FS, Penn State (B+)

Round 5 Pick 27: Quandre Diggs, CB, Texas (A-)

Round 6 Pick 27: Jamison Crowder, WR, Duke (C+)

Round 6 Pick 29: Christian Lombard, OG, Notre Dame (A)

Round 7 Pick 23: Stephone Anthony, ILB, Clemson ©

Graham and the Eagles are in talks for an extension. I think they will re-sign them. And I expect the Colts to cut Donald Thomas as well.

[Combsey]

I think it would be amazing I'd we could get Prewitt and Harris

[rock8591]

Not a chance in a trillion that we draft a WR as our first pick given our needs; I don't care if he's better than Josh Gordan, Calvin Johnson, and Jimmy Graham combined.

 

We have a logjam at WR, TE, and RB, but don't have the OL to sustain our drives, nor give time for them to operate and make plays. Same for our defense; we have the secondary, but not the front 7 to sustain our defense. Teams aren't exactly game planning for Ricardo Matthews, Fili Moala, Bjoern Werner, or Erik Walden.

[jvan1973]

Not a chance in a trillion that we draft a WR as our first pick given our needs; I don't care if he's better than Josh Gordan, Calvin Johnson, and Jimmy Graham combined.

We have a logjam at WR, TE, and RB, but don't have the OL to sustain our drives, nor give time for them to operate and make plays. Same for our defense; we have the secondary, but not the front 7 to sustain our defense. Teams aren't exactly game planning for Ricardo Matthews, Fili Moala, Bjoern Werner, or Erik Walden.

i think the odds are much better than that. BPA on grigs board is who will be drafted

[Yoshinator]

i think the odds are much better than that. BPA on grigs board is who will be drafted

The last two drafts have absolutely proven this too be true. Werner wasn't a huge need and he was taken. Moncrief was easily a BPA. Not so sure on Mewhort, but he has been tremendous for us and I think Grigs knew something no one else did. The late picks also scream best player available as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like La'el Collins as a Colt if he fell or a Jaelen Strong as Reggie Wayne's replacement. we literally have needs everywhere and any pick that would be a top 15 pick in this draft and falls to us would be instant improvement at any position (besides qb and te).

[Gavin]

Not a chance in a trillion that we draft a WR as our first pick given our needs; I don't care if he's better than Josh Gordan, Calvin Johnson, and Jimmy Graham combined.

 

We have a logjam at WR, TE, and RB, but don't have the OL to sustain our drives, nor give time for them to operate and make plays. Same for our defense; we have the secondary, but not the front 7 to sustain our defense. Teams aren't exactly game planning for Ricardo Matthews, Fili Moala, Bjoern Werner, or Erik Walden.

I would hope they would game plan for Ricardo Mattews though and Fili Moala....Considering 1 is on another team entirely and the other is on IR, you don't draft positions, you draft players...if the BPA is not an O Lineman (It wont be in the first round this year) then ya don't reach

[coltsfanatic24]

I doubt Grigson drafts a WR in the 1st round, it will most likely be a defensive player.

 

Draft

 

1. Denzel Perryman, ILB, 6'0 240 lbs, Miami

2. Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB, 6'4 245 lbs, Louisville

3. Eric Murray, CB, 6'0 195 lbs, Minnesota

[rock8591]

An easier way to think of all this may be this...

 

We "draft" the 2013 and 2014 draft with our CURRENT picks. i.e. with our late 1st rounder at #25 or so, we "draft" a player around that range, a player in the 2014 class. That may give us a better idea what kind of roster we have instead of trying to predict how college players play in the NFL.

 

For example...given that Clinton-Dix was a 1st rounder, Jamie Collins a 2nd rounder...we have the following "draft"...

 

1 - Clinton-Dix

2 - Jamie Collins

3 - Larry Warford

4 - Quentin Dial

 

- - - - -

 

can step in and play FS. Jamie Collins be a thumper at ILB spots. Warford will be a boost at Guard, allowing us to shift other positions around. Dial for now will backup Jones and RJF at DE, but will be a future replacement for Redding, so he will share many reps at NT and DE.

[BProland85]

Here is another version of the Colts mock draft...

 

Round 1 Pick 27: La'el Collins, OT, LSU (A)
Round 2 Pick 27: Anthony Harris, SS, Virginia (B+)
Round 3 Pick 27: Eric Kendricks, ILB, UCLA (A-)
Round 4 Pick 27: Senquez Golson, CB, Ole Miss (A)
Round 5 Pick 27: Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland (A)
Round 6 Pick 27: Jamison Crowder, WR, Duke (B-)
Round 6 Pick 29: Terrance Magee, RB, LSU (B+)
Round 7 Pick 23: Curtis Riley, CB, Fresno State (A)

[CS Coltsfan]

where are getting your grades on your picks BProland ?

[BProland85]

where are getting your grades on your picks BProland ?

It's a draft website called firstpick.com

[Defjamz26]

BPA will be on defense this year at our pick. While you certainly don't always draft for need, you do consider it (i.e. you don't draft a TE high when you have Fleener and Allen). I see the 1st round pick possibly being a 3-4 DE or 3-4 NT. Possibly ILB but there are only 2 really good ones with Perryman and McKinney. But there are a lot of good D-Lineman in this draft, so I would say it's very likely it's a defensive player.

 

Only OL that would go to the Colts round 1 is Scherff if he fell.

[BProland85]

BPA will be on defense this year at our pick. While you certainly don't always draft for need, you do consider it (i.e. you don't draft a TE high when you have Fleener and Allen). I see the 1st round pick possibly being a 3-4 DE or 3-4 NT. Possibly ILB but there are only 2 really good ones with Perryman and McKinney. But there are a lot of good D-Lineman in this draft, so I would say it's very likely it's a defensive player.

 

Only OL that would go to the Colts round 1 is Scherff if he fell.

La'el Collins is a strong possibility at OT if he fell to the Colts also. As of now he is my favorite pick for them in the 1st. Could start at RT right away, then move to RT after the 2015 season saving us money on Cherilus.

 

And I also like ILB Eric Kendricks in the 3rd for us.

[rock8591]

The last two drafts have absolutely proven this too be true. Werner wasn't a huge need and he was taken. Moncrief was easily a BPA. Not so sure on Mewhort, but he has been tremendous for us and I think Grigs knew something no one else did. The late picks also scream best player available as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see someone like La'el Collins as a Colt if he fell or a Jaelen Strong as Reggie Wayne's replacement. we literally have needs everywhere and any pick that would be a top 15 pick in this draft and falls to us would be instant improvement at any position (besides qb and te).

 

Grigson would draft a CB/Safety/DE/NT/ILB/OLB all before a WR.

[akcolt]

Collins is who I'd like too exactly RG one yr then 2016 lose GC contract kick out to RT but I think he goes top 20