That's It, I Can't Take It Anymore, Start Orlovsky

[Andy]

I've been a Painter supporter throughout the year, but after today's game vs the Jags, I can't freagin take it anymore, just put in Orlovsky. Let the kid have the bye week to practice with the starters, then get him ready for the Panthers game. Curtis Painter sucks! Last week, I said give him one more week, and we did, and he screwed it up. Start Orlovsky, who's with me?

[Blackhawk4]

To bad both aren't very good. Pick your poison. People get on the Orlovsky bandwagon and then as soon as he starts sucking you'll jump right off it.

[MTC]

They both suck, it makes no difference.

[mark_dk]

Heres a new one: McAfee for starting QB after the bye!!

[shaunzo]

Yeah they're both horrendous.

[super8todd]

Heres a new one: McAfee for starting QB after the bye!!

Im with this.. I bet he can punt the ball to receivers better than the other 2 can throw.

[mightisright]

how has Orlovsky done on his other starts for other teams? Has he proven to be any better, anywhere else? Didn't they give him a shot to win the starting job away from Painter and he couldn't do it? That may have more to do with the coaching staff not willing to admit they made a mistake on Painter but stil....

[CollieFangirl]

At this point, I really don't care what they do. I've stopped expecting wins, I've accepted that we are the worst team in the NFL. Right now, I'm focusing on Peyton's check-up date on Dec. 1. We'll see where he is, and go from there.

This season is lost. I'll keep watching, but I don't expect anything to change. Once the offseason gets here, things should get infinitely better.

[ponys]

You can't compare them, he came in late and played against a prevent defense. If Painter would throw the ball away instead of being sacked that would help him a lot.

He's not the problem, it's the coaching. Nine defenders within 3 yds off the line on 3rd and 3 and they run the ball...help.

[DILLIGAFER]

screw orlovsky and painter, start McAfee!

[mightisright]

At this point, I really don't care what they do. I've stopped expecting wins, I've accepted that we are the worst team in the NFL. Right now, I'm focusing on Peyton's check-up date on Dec. 1. We'll see where he is, and go from there.

This season is lost. I'll keep watching, but I don't expect anything to change. Once the offseason gets here, things should get infinitely better.

Agreed, that the season is lost. But I still want them to throw in everybody we need to evaluate to see what we go going into next season.

[colts52761]

Get Jim Sorgi back! lol

[Betty27_1]

Put Orlovsky in.

The worst that happens is they lose again...which at this point they're guaranteed anyways with the bang up job Painter's been doing.

But the upside is they finally win one.

[mightisright]

Well, it can't get any worse. Might as well see what we go, see if maybe he could be a quality backup

[The Fish]

The thing is, is that Orlawtfidunnowhotospellhisnamesky, is not better than Painter, who is not good. I think that alone is an undeniable major contributing factor to our crap fest season, some of the worst QB play in the game.

[jgstriker]

Two words...

NATE DAVIS!!!!!

[mightisright]

Whomever, I don't care, just get SOMEBODY who can actually throw the ball and not get intercepted!

[OLD FAN MAN]

no one can move the team behind this o-line, no time for the receivers to get deep or open, our qbs have just a few sec to make a decision not like other teams whose o-lines give a little time to throw, dont blame the qbs the o-line is the problem and our #1 draft choice did not look good today he kept letting his guy put pressure on painter got to get a decent o-line to compete

[unitaswestand]

Get Jim Sorgi back! lol

You joke on that, but I actually always thought Sorgi was a FAR better backup Qb then Painter. I never really understood why they got rid of him over Painter and didn't bring him in this year.

[GoColts8818]

I don't care which one they start because I don't think it's going to change things. I will say this if we are going to Orlovsky let's go to him and stop just bringing him in at the end of games.

[Horseshoes_fan15]

I want to see Pat McAfee play QB. I'm not kidding. At least he would be more entertaining than Painter. I could have a nice laugh whenever Pat drops back and tries to throw to Wayne or Garcon. The season is lost. There is there nothing to play for, so Caldwell might as well fire up the ole gimmick train.

[oldunclemark]

To bad both aren't very good. Pick your poison. People get on the Orlovsky bandwagon and then as soon as he starts sucking you'll jump right off it.

I've been a Painter supporter throughout the year, but after today's game vs the Jags, I can't freagin take it anymore, just put in Orlovsky. Let the kid have the bye week to practice with the starters, then get him ready for the Panthers game. Curtis Painter sucks! Last week, I said give him one more week, and we did, and he screwed it up. Start Orlovsky, who's with me?

I'm with you..

Orlovsky is not as bad as Curtis has been the last 2 weeks...

..You have to make changes..

With the bye week..give him 2 weeks to get set and I think we can beat Carolina..

The defense did all they could against Jax.

We averages about 12 points a game..

New QB

[sfergson727]

Orlovsky's passes have been on target, Painters not so much. We now know that Painter isn't going to improve, in fact, he's getting worse. Sit Painter and play Orlovsky.

[GoColts8818]

Orlovsky's passes have been on target, Painters not so much. We now know that Painter isn't going to improve, in fact, he's getting worse. Sit Painter and play Orlovsky.

Honestly I don't know if Orlovsky is better or not so I am not trying to argue he's not I am just goin to say it's worth mentiong Orlovsky is completeing a high number of passes when the other team is in prevent defense. With that said if someone said Painter couldn't even do that right now am not sure I would believe myself if I even tried to say they were wrong.

[oldunclemark]

Now we have the answer to why we signed Kerry Collins..

[sfergson727]

Honestly I don't know if Orlovsky is better or not so I am not trying to argue he's not I am just goin to say it's worth mentiong Orlovsky is completeing a high number of passes when the other team is in prevent defense. With that said if someone said Painter couldn't even do that right now am not sure I would believe myself if I even tried to say they were wrong.

That's not completely accurate. The safeties were loose, but the cornerbacks were playing man to man predominently. It certainly wasn't a Colt's style prevent defense.

[doogansquest]

I said Painter was terrible as soon as he came in the first time, but people told me off on this website. Because he accidentally lead a touchdown drive, unlike Collins, people told me it was proof positive we'd be okay with Painter.

[Andy]

With Painter as the starter the Colts have averaged:

12 points a game

which with our defense will definitely get us a winless season

[Malakai432]

At least we could get a good laugh out of Orlavsky when he sends himself into the endzone for a Saftey. However, I don't know why you all are dogging Painter, I mean come'on, he had a solid 40.1 QB rating today vs the Jags. Compare 40% of Peyton Mannings 105.6 QB rating against the Jags at home last year which is 42.24 and they are relatively close..... :*: hahah sarcasm definitely included..

[GoColts8818]

That's not completely accurate. The safeties were loose, but the cornerbacks were playing man to man predominently. It certainly wasn't a Colt's style prevent defense.

It was prevent for the Jags defense they also backed their pass rush off and were playing not to give up the big play, they were not playing like they were with Painter. With that said like I said in my first post I am not sure Painter could complete passes vs. that right now. I am just pointing out Orlovsky isn't coming in and leading us down the field when they are playing the same kinda defense that gives Painter issues. If you notice when they got down by the endzone and the Jags started playing tighter Orlovsky struggled. Again, like I said I have no idea which one is better right now frankly I don't think it matters which one we start they are going to struggle IMO.

[unitaswestand]

Honestly, can't we give Jeff George a shot??? I would think at 43, he still has a rocket arm, he could play better than Painter. Heck, a wooden Indian might be better.

Since Addai was a high school QB, how about just having Addai play QB with Brown and Carter running the Wildcat?

[SoldierColtsFan]

Two words...

NATE DAVIS!!!!!

That is exactly what I was thinking. He may be as dumb as a box of hammers, by no fault of his own, but the man is gifted athletically and has performed decently when given the oppurtunity.

[thetigerfox]

Which winless QB should we start??? Decisions that are worse than being 0-10 for $200 Alex....

Why not start Dan though, Curtis is just getting worse and the very few things he can do teams have seen enough on tape to "game plan" him.

[mahagga73]

no one can move the team behind this o-line, no time for the receivers to get deep or open, our qbs have just a few sec to make a decision not like other teams whose o-lines give a little time to throw, dont blame the qbs the o-line is the problem and our #1 draft choice did not look good today he kept letting his guy put pressure on painter got to get a decent o-line to compete

The line was good last week and Painter still sucked.I'm sure he's a nice guy and a team player and all but he has no business being on an nfl field.He just isn't good enough.Orlavsky did ok starting with a horrible Lions team.He had 8 td's and 8 picks in half a season with them,about 57 percent completion rate.Painter can't even complete 8 passes.Give him a chance.

[SoldierColtsFan]

Painter needs to be cut ASAP. Hopefully he has a marketable degreee from PU because playing football isn't going to pay the bills in the near future.

[mahagga73]

Honestly, can't we give Jeff George a shot??? I would think at 43, he still has a rocket arm, he could play better than Painter. Heck, a wooden Indian might be better.

Since Addai was a high school QB, how about just having Addai play QB with Brown and Carter running the Wildcat?

1965 Colts's won some games with Tom Matte running the option.

[HungarianColtsFan]

We have nothing to loose. We know Painter's worth, let's try Orlovsky. It couldn't be worse with him, and at least we will know if he is better than Painter.

Yesterday Orlovsky seemed to be more accurate on passing, however it wasn't more productive.

[Jaric]

They both suck, it makes no difference.

This.

I give Painter a slight edge because his name is easier to spell, so when I rip him on the internet I don't have to worry about typos.

Plus he looks like a Furby. That has to count for something right?

[sfergson727]

Granted. However, Painter is barely worthy of a third string QB, just above the disaster QB (punter) on most teams. I'd suspect that our punter would probably do better than Painter, as McAfee is a competitor, something Painter seems to lack. With that in mind, let's look at Orlovsky and see if he is useable as a backup QB, because if he's not, we need two more QB's, not just one in the draft next year. We'll need Manning's eventual replacement, and we'll need a decent backup QB. Painter certainly is not worthy of that distinction, let's hope Orlovsky is.

[scorptile]

well when your head coach doesnt care about wins anymore and doesnt coach even the qb to even help him get better this is the result. yes painter isnt that great but he isnt as bad as he seems because he needs coaching not just thrown in to learn by playing the game. but you do know caldwell had already had it in his head that he wasnt gonna coach painter or even wanted anything to do with him. why else do you think he got rid of hayden and jackson so quickly after dungy left. anything to do with the dungy team is dissapearing quickly. i dont blame the qb's at all i blame the coaches who are not coaching these guys at all and just applauding them when they screw up.