bavanlan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 please tell me your a preschool teacher, just to make the visual more humorous. I hope not. Anyone that drinks that swill should never be around children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Cleveland has the ability to match any contract we offer, and they have more cap room than us What about their needs? Surely they won't outbid us to keep their Center if it means breaking their bank and precludes them from signing other FA's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 AHHHHHHHH I keep looking for an update and the suspense is killing me! Go get get him Grigs, offer 10-12 million and work some back room deal with the Browns to keep them from offering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan24 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 It really doesn't matter, we all knew there was mutual interest but the question is will the browns match what we offer. With our cap space im sure they will. You never know maybe they wont match since we took richardson off their hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 What draft picks would you be willin to give up to stop Cleveland from matching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 And if he doesn't sign? I'm just curious Entirely? If he don't sign with Cleveland if they would match our offer, then he's considered a hold out and he just won't play at all. That won't happen because Mack don't hate Cleveland, he just wants to keep his options open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Colts Pun Here Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Maaannn this is brutal! I really hope Grigson can make this happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Costa should be Plan F, behind Mack, EDS, BDLP and Goodwin and McGlynn. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 So we have went from a 0% chance of this happening...to now a 0.001% chance.so you're saying there's a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 What draft picks would you be willin to give up to stop Cleveland from matching? ZERO. Browns get no more picks from us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 ZERO. Browns get no more picks from us!Tbh I'd give them our 2nd rounder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 What about their needs? Surely they won't outbid us to keep their Center if it means breaking their bank and precludes them from signing other FA's. Cleveland don't have as many needs as we do. They pretty much only lack a QB but they'll draft one and he'll be cheap. Cleveland has at least twice as much cap space as we do. So any offer we gave Mack, they could easily match and wouldn't really hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derakynn Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Meh. I wouldn't want to ever spend much more than 7m APY for a center. To get him out of the tag it would have to be similar to a poison pill anyways, so if anything it should be a monstrous first year hit that allows the rest of the year's hits to be less than 8m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 so you're saying there's a chance? If you want to be hopelessly optimistic. In reality, I still don't think there's a chance! (and I got the dumb and dumber reference) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If you want to be hopelessly optimistic. In reality, I still don't think there's a chance! (and I got the dumb and dumber reference) There is a chance, its just going to involve us most likely sending a draft pick Clevelands way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameszeigler834 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yeah, of course! We have LuckHope he joins. But for a contract the browns cant match but not a outragous deal either., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 What draft picks would you be willin to give up to stop Cleveland from matching?Honestly...normally I'd say no more, but to get Mack, I'd have to give them a 2015 3rd rder to start with.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 There is a chance, its just going to involve us most likely sending a draft pick Clevelands way Knowing Cleveland they would want our 1st again next yr., so I'll still say there isn't a chance. I say that with all hope that I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigQandTheManiac Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 its unreal how sooo many players wants to play for the colts...amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Meh. I wouldn't want to ever spend much more than 7m APY for a center. To get him out of the tag it would have to be similar to a poison pill anyways, so if anything it should be a monstrous first year hit that allows the rest of the year's hits to be less than 8m. Poison pill contracts aren't allowed anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Irrelevant Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 If you want to be hopelessly optimistic. In reality, I still don't think there's a chance! (and I got the dumb and dumber reference) Yeah, but if Mack really really wants to move to Colts, there is a slim chance that Cleveland and Colts could work something out. If this goes through, it won't be because we offer more that Cleveland will give, that much is a given IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 its unreal how sooo many players wants to play for the colts...amazingFeels good doesn't it!! :clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Yeah, but if Mack really really wants to move to Colts, there is a slim chance that Cleveland and Colts could work something out. If this goes through, it won't be because we offer more that Cleveland will give, that much is a given IMO. I hope like hell I'm wrong and something can be worked out. I just don't see it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 We don't have to give the Browns a draft pick to get him and Mack's agent said he can structure the contract in a way that the Browns couldn't match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 We don't have to give the Browns a draft pick to get him and Mack's agent said he can structure the contract in a way that the Browns couldn't match. That would take some real creativity and I would love to see how he would do it. Because if there is anything in it that could be seen as some kind of poison pill, it'll never hold water and won't be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavanlan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I hope like hell I'm wrong and something can be worked out. I just don't see it right now. I still say our worse case scenario should be offering him a one year contract for the exact same amount he's getting under the tag with the agreement that neither tag can be used on him again next year. We would win either way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 We don't have to give the Browns a draft pick to get him and Mack's agent said he can structure the contract in a way that the Browns couldn't match.i don't believe his agent to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I still say our worse case scenario should be offering him a one year contract for the exact same amount he's getting under the tag with the agreement that either tag can't be used on him again.We would win either way... and a goodwill gesture for him to sign here next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Cleveland don't have as many needs as we do. They pretty much only lack a QB but they'll draft one and he'll be cheap. Cleveland has at least twice as much cap space as we do. So any offer we gave Mack, they could easily match and wouldn't really hurt them.Meh they need: 1.Safety2.Another WR3.QB4.RB5.Guard We need(immediate needs): 1.Center2.Safety Other then that we need alot of depth (Plenty of upgrades in other words) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I still say our worse case scenario should be offering him a one year contract for the exact same amount he's getting under the tag with the agreement that neither tag can be used on him again next year. We would win either way... I still think Cleveland wouldn't have a problem matching that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Man, there's got to be someway we can put together a contract that Cleavland couldn't match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtJ82 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Signing Mack my cost us the ability to re-sign Castanzo after the season. Collateral damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Meh they need: 1.Safety2.Another WR3.QB4.RB5.Guard We need(immediate needs): 1.Center2.Safety Other then that we need alot of depth (Plenty of upgrades in other words)Honestly... I am a big fan of Delano Howell, and obviously the front office is with showing no immediate rush to try to sign another safety, its going to come down to Howell and probably a rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOCOLTS_ROLLTIDE Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nfl/colts/2014/03/13/pro-bowl-c-mack-wants-to-talk-to-colts/6378077/ "Anytime a player has a chance to talk with a team with a proven record like the Colts, (with) a quarterback and other weapons of the caliber Indy has, it certainly catches your attention," Mack said. "I don't want to get into who has contacted me. I leave those questions for my agents.""I don't want to get into who has contacted me. I leave those questions for my agents." "I'm willing to be patient with the process," he said."I'm willing to be patient with the process"....... He is perfect he already sounds like a Colt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Man, there's got to be someway we can put together a contract that Cleavland couldn't match.In a way Cleveland COULDN'T match? I doubt it, but im sure they could do it in a way Cleveland maybe would decide not to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Signing Mack my cost us the ability to re-sign Castanzo after the season. Collateral damage.Won't we have a good amount of cap space next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 i don't believe his agent to be honest I don't either. I've went over different kinds of scenario's in my head and I just can't think of anything he could construct that wouldn't be considered a poison pill contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bavanlan Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 I still think Cleveland wouldn't have a problem matching that though. Right, but we can get him next year unencumbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan24 Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Man, there's got to be someway we can put together a contract that Cleavland couldn't match. according to his agent he could put something together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derakynn Posted March 13, 2014 Share Posted March 13, 2014 Poison pill contracts aren't allowed anymoreHence the words "similar to". Structure it with a 20m cap hit this and tell me they wouldn't hesitate. It isn't a poison pill because it isn't discriminating against the team that tagged him with some ridiculous stipulation like fully guaranteeing his contract if he plays more than 2 games in Cleveland. It would not be a stipulation at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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