Pierre Dessir

Kyle · February 25, 2014

Height: 6'1

Weight: 205

40 yard dash: 4.5

INTS: 13 in 2 seasons

The guy has the size, speed, and talent for sure. The article below makes me believe he has the work ethic and a good head on his shoulders.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/02/24/lindenwood-desir-chasing-real-world-dream-at-nfl-combine-long-shot-chance-to/

Here is a pretty good highlight video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrADoRl9FO4

Looks like a ball hawk. I like how he has LONG arms and goes up and gets the ball. Pretty sure he had a pick in the senior bowl too. He may have played against some lower level teams but something stands out to me about this guy. I think he will be an absolute steal in the 3rd or 4th round.

What do you guys think??

HarassedOffTheSite · February 25, 2014

I watched him earlier at the Combine and uh yeah, this dude would be a nice addition. With that said, we have bigger needs and I am not sure how long he would last.

COLTS449 · February 25, 2014

I've liked him for a while, I really hope we draft either him or Baptiste.

Kyle · February 25, 2014

If we don't re-sign Bethea then we don't really have any bigger needs. I think this guy could be the cover S we want.

I agree if Bethea is re-signed, then 3rd or 4th is too early to get a backup player when other needs could be filled

coltsfanatic24 · February 25, 2014

Had him in one of my drafts in the 3rd round he could be there. Keith Mcgill and Kyle Fuller are CB's we would have to get in the 2nd round but with other needs like ILB and S, would rather get a CB in mid rounds.

HarassedOffTheSite · February 25, 2014

This crop of DBs is deep. We can get quality guys late.

Track Guy · February 25, 2014

I put him in my last mock off-season. I think he could be a good pickup.

throwing BBZ · February 25, 2014

If we don't re-sign Bethea then we don't really have any bigger needs. I think this guy could be the cover S we want.

I agree if Bethea is re-signed, then 3rd or 4th is too early to get a backup player when other needs could be filled

Even with Bethea the Roster would have no single deep type safety.

Someone will be starting back there not named Bethea or Landry Some games next season.

I hope whoever it is can ballhawk.

Kyle · March 13, 2014

I see us adding a C in FA still. That would make FS our biggest need by far. I still think this is our guy.

NewColtsFan · March 13, 2014

a huge note of caution on this guy.

Division II

There are NFL teams who shy away from small school division I guys, much less division II.

The conversion from being able to be a star against D-2 nobody's to being good against NFL starters is beyond difficult.

Guys struggle going from the SEC to the NFL.

So, going from D-2 might take a year or two to adjust. Buyer beware!

Don't get me wrong..... I like the kid.... and maybe he's worth a 3? Maybe? But this is not a slam dunk pick.....

Gavin · March 13, 2014

I'd pass on him

Kyle · March 13, 2014

He is going to be a star.

BleedBlu8792 · March 14, 2014

a huge note of caution on this guy.
Division II
There are NFL teams who shy away from small school division I guys, much less division II.
The conversion from being able to be a star against D-2 nobody's to being good against NFL starters is beyond difficult.
Guys struggle going from the SEC to the NFL.
So, going from D-2 might take a year or two to adjust. Buyer beware!
Don't get me wrong..... I like the kid.... and maybe he's worth a 3? Maybe? But this is not a slam dunk pick.....

I'm completely with you on this, HOWEVER I put more emphasis on your point here with QB's than other positions. Mathis was drafted out of Alabama A&M and Polian stated the main reason he took Mathis was because he completely dominated against his opponents. Now, I don't believe Polian seen Mathis being AS GOOD as he turned out to be, but I agree with Polian in that if your looking at the D2/D3 level they just absolutely have to dominate. I've never heard of this guy, but if he was head and shoulders above his competition at the D2 level I would have to give him a strong look.

BleedBlu8792 · March 14, 2014

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BleedBlu8792 · March 14, 2014

I'm completely with you on this, HOWEVER I put more emphasis on your point here with QB's than other positions. Mathis was drafted out of Alabama A&M and Polian stated the main reason he took Mathis was because he completely dominated against his opponents. Now, I don't believe Polian seen Mathis being AS GOOD as he turned out to be, but I agree with Polian in that if your looking at the D2/D3 level they just absolutely have to dominate. I've never heard of this guy, but if he was head and shoulders above his competition at the D2 level I would have to give him a strong look.

Mathis also had 20+ sacks his final year in college. I'm glad Polian gave him a shot here.

NewColtsFan · March 14, 2014

I'm completely with you on this, HOWEVER I put more emphasis on your point here with QB's than other positions. Mathis was drafted out of Alabama A&M and Polian stated the main reason he took Mathis was because he completely dominated against his opponents. Now, I don't believe Polian seen Mathis being AS GOOD as he turned out to be, but I agree with Polian in that if your looking at the D2/D3 level they just absolutely have to dominate. I've never heard of this guy, but if he was head and shoulders above his competition at the D2 level I would have to give him a strong look.

Good post.....

I'd add this....

My concern over Dessir is that he's being talked about as a possible 3rd/4th round pick. It's one thing to miss on a 6 where Mathis was taken... not as much of an investment. But if you miss on a 3, then you're sunk. If we could grab him with our

5 or 6, I'd be much better with that, but at this point, I don't see that happening. So, as much as the conversion is an issue, also where a team drafts him is the other issue. The higher the pick, the greater the risk. And at this point, I'm trying to keep risk at a minimum for the Colts...

Hope that clarifies my thinking....

BleedBlu8792 · March 14, 2014

Good post.....
I'd add this....
My concern over Dessir is that he's being talked about as a possible 3rd/4th round pick. It's one thing to miss on a 6 where Mathis was taken... not as much of an investment. But if you miss on a 3, then you're sunk. If we could grab him with our
5 or 6, I'd be much better with that, but at this point, I don't see that happening. So, as much as the conversion is an issue, also where a team drafts him is the other issue. The higher the pick, the greater the risk. And at this point, I'm trying to keep risk at a minimum for the Colts...
Hope that clarifies my thinking....

Mathis was a 5th rounder, but yep we are definitely on the same page...

OffensivelyPC · March 14, 2014

I'm completely with you on this, HOWEVER I put more emphasis on your point here with QB's than other positions. Mathis was drafted out of Alabama A&M and Polian stated the main reason he took Mathis was because he completely dominated against his opponents. Now, I don't believe Polian seen Mathis being AS GOOD as he turned out to be, but I agree with Polian in that if your looking at the D2/D3 level they just absolutely have to dominate. I've never heard of this guy, but if he was head and shoulders above his competition at the D2 level I would have to give him a strong look.

I agree with this assessment as well. If you go into the pick knowing it will take a year to get going (like it did Mathis), then it's a solid pick, but as NCF said, that's a better gamble with a 5th roudn pick. If you're going to take that sort of risk in the 3rd round, it should be a guy with 1st or early 2nd round talent and probably at a position where you are drafting for depth. With Vontae back, that may be the case (but that assumes that Toler stays healthy, and we all know how that panned out this past year). Now I'm not saying we don't take a strong look at him in the 3rd if he's there, maybe we do. But this is one of those picks where you're going to reserve judgment for a year or so and if it doesn't pan out, we, the peanut gallery, will be awfully critical.

Defjamz26 · March 14, 2014

And like people have said, he's a project. Not a year 1 starter. Maybe a rotational guy in year 2, and possibly a number 2 corner in year 3. Makes him more of a mid 4th-late 5th round pick.

MikeVander · March 14, 2014

He has a nice story, a lot of désir (desire) you might say.

Kyle · March 14, 2014

i see greatness in him.

chad72 · March 14, 2014

Given Chuck Pagano's history of secondary coaching (Ladarius Webb development, Darius Butler resurgence in Indy etc.), I am inclined to think that with Toler's injury history, he may be 1 season away from the Colts cutting ties with him if a series of missed games happens again. So, any CB drafted in round 2 might be just 1 year away from being a starter, IMO.

Pierre Desir might fit the bill, and has the base talent that Pagano's coaches can coach up. Just my two cents.

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