John Waylon Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 On the BP show right now Polian keeps talking up caldwell. Get used to it, he's not going anywhere. He has Ultimate Job Security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Cannon Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 · Hidden by Nadine, October 24, 2011 - masked profanity Hidden by Nadine, October 24, 2011 - masked profanity On the BP show right now Polian keeps talking up caldwell. Get used to it, he's not going anywhere. He has Ultimate Job Security.this is a d@m# shame Link to comment
coltfaninnewyork Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If i was a season ticket holder i would be livid,this is unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn4192 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 1. No way any GM would bad mouth his coach on his TV program, no team would do that.2. Caldwell isn't the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 A vote of confidence means that you are fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltfaninnewyork Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 1. No way any GM would bad mouth his coach on his TV program, no team would do that.2. Caldwell isn't the problem.He surely is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn4192 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 If i was a season ticket holder i would be livid,this is unacceptable.A bad season out of the past decade is unacceptable? Kinda harsh don't you think. I mean really look at what season tickets holders in Cincy, Detroit, Carolina, Buffalo, SF, Jax, Houston and others have had to put up with over the same last decade.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 A bad season out of the past decade is unacceptable? Kinda harsh don't you think. I mean really look at what season tickets holders in Cincy, Detroit, Carolina, Buffalo, SF, Jax, Houston and others have had to put up with over the same last decade....Do you ever post anything different or do you just post the same contradictory crap all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltfaninnewyork Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 A bad season out of the past decade is unacceptable? Kinda harsh don't you think. I mean really look at what season tickets holders in Cincy, Detroit, Carolina, Buffalo, SF, Jax, Houston and others have had to put up with over the same last decade....Show me in the history of this league where a head coach has survived a 1-15 or 0-16 season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
presto123 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) I'm sure all the calls will be heavily screened. It is a call in show isn't it? I wouldn't know. I learned to tune Polian out a long time ago. Edited October 24, 2011 by presto123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetigerfox Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 1. No way any GM would bad mouth his coach on his TV program, no team would do that.2. Caldwell isn't the problem.Your half right for once, Caldwell is not the entire problem, Polian is a huge Part too!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetigerfox Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) A bad season out of the past decade is unacceptable? Kinda harsh don't you think. I mean really look at what season tickets holders in Cincy, Detroit, Carolina, Buffalo, SF, Jax, Houston and others have had to put up with over the same last decade....I believe we have already debunked that statement which you keep putting up there. and by the way, with the exception of Buffalo, all those teams have problems selling tickets during their very down years.. Edited October 24, 2011 by thetigerfox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Chris has final say on personnel decisions.Tony Dungy wanted to draft Tyler Brayton over Dallas Clark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn4192 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Show me in the history of this league where a head coach has survived a 1-15 or 0-16 season!Well there was John McKay in TBAlso how many of those coaches that went 1-15 or 0-16 also had a SB appearance adn 2 divisional titles the previous season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn4192 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I believe we have already debunked that statement which you keep putting up there. and by the way, with the exception of Buffalo, all those teams have problems selling tickets during their very down years..Well given how bad some of them have been, shouldn't the season ticket holders be almost nothing? I mean look at Cincy, a losing franchise for how long and when they moved into their new stadium they had to pay a seat licence besides the cost of the season tix, yet fans bought them. I mean the very high cost of what NFL season tix cost, why would any fan of a team like those I listed be able to sell hardly any...and yet they do. Why? Because of hope....and with the Colts, there is the hope and knowledge via it's past history they will rebound and be better next year and the following year and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltfaninnewyork Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Well there was John McKay in TBAlso how many of those coaches that went 1-15 or 0-16 also had a SB appearance adn 2 divisional titles the previous season?Well bringing up a expansion team really showed me,care to try again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillCowher Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Of course Polian loves Caldwell. Caldwell is Polian's puppet on a string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Case Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Well given how bad some of them have been, shouldn't the season ticket holders be almost nothing? I mean look at Cincy, a losing franchise for how long and when they moved into their new stadium they had to pay a seat licence besides the cost of the season tix, yet fans bought them. I mean the very high cost of what NFL season tix cost, why would any fan of a team like those I listed be able to sell hardly any...and yet they do. Why? Because of hope....and with the Colts, there is the hope and knowledge via it's past history they will rebound and be better next year and the following year and so on.U keep posting the same stuff we get it Caldwell isn't the problem he's the solution. Polian will build us a dynasty and Irsay can tweet all he wants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltfaninnewyork Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Chris has final say on personnel decisions.Tony Dungy wanted to draft Tyler Brayton over Dallas Clark.Brayton had a sack ...whoopee bill,pat yourself on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn4192 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 U keep posting the same stuff we get it Caldwell isn't the problem he's the solution. Polian will build us a dynasty and Irsay can tweet all he wants.I don't know if Caldwell is the answer or not, I just know given how Polian and Irsay run a franchise, that Caldwell won't be gone after this season. Is that the right call? I don't know, what I do know is that I trust Polian's decision making process on running a NFL team over anyone here on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonychen Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 He surely is not the answer.seeking for coaches you will never find the answer unless you find one taking the duty of general manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltfaninnewyork Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 seeking for coaches you will never find the answer unless you find one taking the duty of general manager.Was that in a fortune cookie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillCowher Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I don't know if Caldwell is the answer or not, I just know given how Polian and Irsay run a franchise, that Caldwell won't be gone after this season. Is that the right call? I don't know, what I do know is that I trust Polian's decision making process on running a NFL team over anyone here on this forum.That's good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKeR Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 What does Caldwell bring to the table at this point? A calming presence on a winless team? Im sure the players are finally used to Tony not being around anymore so why not go a different direction? Because obviously Caldwell isn't Dungy 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillCowher Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 What does Caldwell bring to the table at this point? A calming presence on a winless team?Im sure the players are finally used to Tony not being around anymore so why not go a different direction? Because obviously Caldwell isn't Dungy 2.0.He is Dungy 0.05 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FanFromtheWasteland Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Is Polian just playing the politician, or does he truly not get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Horseman Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) I fully supported Caldwell up until about week 3 this season. At that point, it started to become very apparent that he and his staff (Metz and possibly Christensen withstanding) are not capable of putting the players in a position to win. We have holes on the D, but there is no reason, except for coaching, that we aren't at least 3-4. If he doesn't go, then Irsay has been completely brainwashed by Polians and it's not going to get much better over the course of the next few years. Last time we were this bad, Irsay cleaned house.I don't see how anyone outside of the organization could say that JC deserves to keep his job. Of course BP is going to say he's doing a great job; he's too savvy to trash him in the media. Unless or until JC gets the axe we won't really know what he thinks. Edited October 24, 2011 by Larry Horseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoaf27 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 That's not throwing them under the bus at all. Regarding Chris, he was speaking the truth. Chris is the GM. Regarding Dungy, he was complimenting Brayton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dn4192 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Is Polian just playing the politician, or does he truly not get itNow that is funny, a NFL executive with the track record that Polian has and you actually believe he does not get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 That's not throwing them under the bus at all. Regarding Chris, he was speaking the truth. Chris is the GM. Regarding Dungy, he was complimenting Brayton.I think that he is subtly trying to show that he made good decisions and Chris is the one who is now making poor decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaric Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Now that is funny, a NFL executive with the track record that Polian has and you actually believe he does not get it?I hope that's sugar free Kool Aid you're chugging, or you're going to give yourself diabetes.This notion that just because he's an NFL GM that makes him untouchable is nonsense. My doctor knows more than I do about medicine and how to treat the human body. But if he gives me medication for the flu and my arm falls off I think at that point I'm qualified to point out that the medication is not doing what it's supposed to be doing, and that perhaps it's time to see another doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) One caller to the Polian show called and asked "if you feel the players are giving their best effort and still coming up short, don't you think it means that you don't have the right players in there playing and does that not fall back on you"?Polian started off saying "Like Caldwell said yesterday, all of us have to bear responsibility in this, and I am not going to shirk it (those were Polian's words). He wishes Nevis was playing but said it would be a while before Nevis will be back on the field. He does feel that the defensive tackle and cornerback position depth is definitely a concern. "My take: I am glad he took responsibility but then, did it take him this long to figure out that DT depth and CB depth was an issue? Edited October 24, 2011 by chad72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Eventually, Jim Irsay will cut in and stop all the Double talk and B.S. People will be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 1. No way any GM would bad mouth his coach on his TV program, no team would do that.2. Caldwell isn't the problem.u are a employee, no way you are this blind. what it took this coach eight years to do at wake, he has don in 2.5 here.wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoColts Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Only after kind of throwing Chris under the bus. A few weeks ago Bill was in charge of the draft. Now, Chris has the final say on all personnel decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 He's just passing that hot potato around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 That's not throwing them under the bus at all. Regarding Chris, he was speaking the truth. Chris is the GM. Regarding Dungy, he was complimenting Brayton.He's saying Dungy had no say in drafting players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Any good he did was undone by his undying support of caldwell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUVTHESHOE Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 (edited) I hope that's sugar free Kool Aid you're chugging, or you're going to give yourself diabetes.This notion that just because he's an NFL GM that makes him untouchable is nonsense. My doctor knows more than I do about medicine and how to treat the human body. But if he gives me medication for the flu and my arm falls off I think at that point I'm qualified to point out that the medication is not doing what it's supposed to be doing, and that perhaps it's time to see another doctor.i wish i would have seen this before i jump in. this guy is a plant. there is no chance anyone that has ever watched football would be this supportive, if they were not on someones payroll.I do not want to call out any poster, at least i am what i am good or bad but, some just like to be spoons and blindly stir the pot. Edited October 24, 2011 by LUVTHESHOE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 I think that he is subtly trying to show that he made good decisions and Chris is the one who is now making poor decisions.That ain't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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