TKnight24 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat 1) It ain't your money2) It ain't your strategyDoesn't get any straighter & to the point than that :: Link to comment
Gavin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Uh not sure why I get a on Corner because that is a VERY important position, I figured that would be kinda obvious since up till last year (and really the majority of last year) we had all kinds of suckage at Corner year after year and still had a heck of a pass rush for the last decade play in Freeney and Mathis, if your OLB's or DE's cant get there then you NEED very good Corners and not some scrubs we have had over the last decade plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tydontlie Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat 1) It ain't your money2) It ain't your strategyNor is it yours...so remind me, who said it was?? Link to comment
chad72 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 As long as I don't have to ask "Where is Waldo on that play?", I think I will be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 As long as I don't have to ask "Where is Waldo on that play?", I think I will be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Man other teams are getting loaded with good players. I guess Grigs is thinking has the least money to use on players; anyone can fill out a rosetr a chance players and over pay, but get some quality players that are woth adding. Walden and Hughes tandem are downright scarey bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Nor is it yours...so remind me, who said it was??Wel, uhm you did. Remember about 2 pages back in the thread? You said you didn't like the way we are spending our money nor did you appreciate our strategy. Link to comment
Gavin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat 1) It ain't your money2) It ain't your strategy1.This is a forum2.Fans are entitled to opinions3.If you want to sign low budget players (and in one case overpay one) and hope that they can magically find the skill or talent that they have been lacking to be a starter then be my guest, sometimes it works out, often times it dont, I hope it does, but Im looking at it realistically and realistically Walden has 9 sacks in 68 games, 26 starts, people are allowed to disagree, personally I'd rather pay a little more on 1 or 2 big names because you know what your getting along with a few other not so well known names, not litter the team with unknowns and hope for the best Link to comment
throwing BBZ Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 NFL Rewind is pretty good, I actually can go back and watch every nfl game, besides I called it pretty dang good with Mcglynn and Justice and how pitiful they have been throughout there careers, so what did they do when they came here? helped turn Luck into a human pin cushion (which was not all there fault and Justice did slightly better then anticipated), Guess some people just cant handle someone with an opinion about how such and such player is not the next big thing and does not get all worked up over the littlest signing, Such as Thomas until proven otherwise. That is funny because they Both were much better than Castonzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 This made me a little mad of the Colts not pursuing him. We could of easily got him over Walden. Justin Rogers @Justin_Rogers ESPN says $15 million for Avril. Ouch. The market wasn't there. Big miscalculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tydontlie Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Wel, uhm you did. Remember about 2 pages back in the thread? You said you didn't like the way we are spending our money nor did you appreciate our strategy.Yea, genius "our" referring to "the team"...your point would be more valid if i had said "my money" or "my strategy". Who doesn't say our on this forum when speaking in regards to the Colts?? It's not to be taken literal bc we are on a Colts message board. Link to comment
tydontlie Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat 1.This is a forum2.Fans are entitled to opinions3.If you want to sign low budget players (and in one case overpay one) and hope that they can magically find the skill or talent that they have been lacking to be a starter then be my guest, sometimes it works out, often times it dont, I hope it does, but Im looking at it realistically and realistically Walden has 9 sacks in 68 games, 26 starts, people are allowed to disagree, personally I'd rather pay a little more on 1 or 2 big names because you know what your getting along with a few other not so well known names, not litter the team with unknowns and hope for the bestTHANK YOU! At least someone understands.. Link to comment
jskinnz Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat 1.This is a forum 2.Fans are entitled to opinions 3.If you want to sign low budget players (and in one case overpay one) and hope that they can magically find the skill or talent that they have been lacking to be a starter then be my guest, sometimes it works out, often times it dont, I hope it does, but Im looking at it realistically and realistically Walden has 9 sacks in 68 games, 26 starts, people are allowed to disagree, personally I'd rather pay a little more on 1 or 2 big names because you know what your getting along with a few other not so well known names, not litter the team with unknowns and hope for the best1) Thanks for pointing out to me where I am. Was confused there 2) Can you point out for me where I suggested that anyone is not entitled to an opinion? 3) Words, words, words, blah, blah, blah The depth of cluelessness since yesterday at 4PM is staggering. Grigson clearly has a plan. They are a better team today than what they were yesterday. Link to comment
Gavin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 That is funny because they Both were much better than Castonzo.Justice was in my opinion, Mcglynn Im not so sure, but Castonzo sure has struggled off an on sometimes pretty bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 At this point, it's obvious that Grigson is looking high, low, far, & near for players. And as long as I see improvement, I'm satisfied honestly. No point in pouting & whining over who we did & didn't sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Yea, genius "our" referring to "the team"...your point would be more valid if i had said "my money" or "my strategy". Who doesn't say our on this forum when speaking in regards to the Colts?? It's not to be taken literal bc we are on a Colts message board.Again, the need to tell me where we are. What is it with you & Gavin thinking I need that explained to me? To answer your question, I don't say we or our when referring to the Colts. To clue you in, I really wasn't commenting on the fact that you said our. It was more of your assessment itself, which I find absolutely hysterical. Link to comment
throwing BBZ Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 This made me a little mad of the Colts not pursuing him. We could of easily got him over Walden. Justin Rogers @Justin_Rogers ESPN says $15 million for Avril. Ouch. The market wasn't there. Big miscalculation.Sorry you don`t understand he would have been bad at his new position like Freeney was. He didn`t FIT the program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weslo1812 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Man, it's gonna be WW3 in that chat room on draft day smhOh yeah Its gonna be hostile, Im sure! Stinks cause I'm probably gonna be in the field during the draft. Probably wont know who we picked untill June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Sorry you don`t understand he would have been bad at his new position like Freeney was. He didn`t FIT the program. Unlike Freeney, he has experienced playing in a 3-4 defense (Purdue). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tydontlie Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Again, the need to tell me where we are. What is it with you & Gavin thinking I need that explained to me?To answer your question, I don't say we or our when referring to the Colts.To clue you in, I really wasn't commenting on the fact that you said our. It was more of your assessment itself, which I find absolutely hysterical.You are a liar..I can garuntee you you have used the word "we" on this forum and were referring to the colts. And that was my opinion, which is why we are on here to state our opinion. So if you thought it was hysterical, thats your opinion and next time keep it to yourself bc you sound dumb. Link to comment
throwing BBZ Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/28/sig-stat-snapshot-pass-blocking-efficiency/ I by no means consider this source the holy grail. But when you start at the top it makes some sense.Look on page one for Justice, page two for Castonzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 This made me a little mad of the Colts not pursuing him. We could of easily got him over Walden. Justin Rogers @Justin_Rogers ESPN says $15 million for Avril. Ouch. The market wasn't there. Big miscalculation.Only a little mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/28/sig-stat-snapshot-pass-blocking-efficiency/ I by no means consider this source the holy grail. But when you start at the top it makes some sense.Look on page one for Justice, page two for Castonzo. What I gathered from that is that Castazno gave up 20 more pressure on nearly 120 more snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Unlike Freeney, he has experienced playing in a 3-4 defense (Purdue). yet NO 3-4 team gobbled him up, Because... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 yet NO 3-4 team gobbled him up, Because...Well, Seahawks are a hybrid defense, very similar to ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 And we just signed "talent" too. Maybe not "known" talent, but upgraded what we had Isn't "known" talent better than "unknown" talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyD4U Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 It's getting a lil chippy around here! What ever happened to giving a guy a chance? I'm not saying he's great but obviously greater minds see something in him. It's 4 mil. Guaranteed. If he doesn't produce he'll be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Only a little mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 What I gathered from that is that Castazno gave up 20 more pressure on nearly 120 more snaps. now i get out the calc.castonzo 1 pressure per 12.2 snapsjustice 1 per 17.5joe thomas 1 per 35.5 wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 now i get out the calc.castonzo 1 pressure per 12.2 snapsjustice 1 per 17.5joe thomas 1 per 35.5 wow! I'd rather have the guy who stays healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 This made me a little mad of the Colts not pursuing him. We could of easily got him over Walden. Justin Rogers @Justin_Rogers ESPN says $15 million for Avril. Ouch. The market wasn't there. Big miscalculation. Is that 15 Million for one year?Or for two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Is that 15 Million for one year?Or for two years? Two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Isn't "known" talent better than "unknown" talent?I like surprises so I would say no. For example, Patriots fans know that they're basically guaranteed at least 9 wins every season. This season, I didn't know what to expect from us. I like these signings cause it's gonna be interesting to see what these guys do. Only person I know is Toler so I can't wait till the season starts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 Justice was terrible. Got manhandled way too many times?Could not fend off the bull rush.Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I like surprises so I would say no. For example, Patriots fans know that they're basically guaranteed at least 9 wins every season. This season, I didn't know what to expect from us. I like these signings cause it's gonna be interesting to see what these guys do. Only person I know is Toler so I can't wait till the season starts I see what you're saying but I'd still rather start the season with some known talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 For those Bo`s who don`t know football https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/14/signature-stat-snapshot-pass-rushing-productivity/ Jerry Hughes - and the bottom 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 · Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat Hidden by shecolt, March 15, 2013 - personal spat 1) Thanks for pointing out to me where I am. Was confused there2) Can you point out for me where I suggested that anyone is not entitled to an opinion?3) Words, words, words, blah, blah, blahThe depth of cluelessness since yesterday at 4PM is staggering. Grigson clearly has a plan. They are a better team today than what they were yesterday.1.Your welcome2.The mere fact that you went out of your way to point out the obvious "it aint your money" "It aint your strategy" is all but directly saying that he is not entitled to his opinion 3.If you dont even take the time to read a lengthy post just because it is to long how do you expect anyone to take you anymore serious then anyone else on this forum? 'The depth of cluelessness since yesterday at 4PM is staggering. Grigson clearly has a plan. They are a better team today than what they were yesterday." Im sure he does, But as fans we are entitled to question his opinions and moves and not just praise every single move he makes blindly like his decisions are all perfect or will be Link to comment
TKnight24 Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 I see what you're saying but I'd still rather start the season with some known talent.Hey, we started last season with an unknown ILB (which is a key part of the 3-4 Defense). And what do you know? He grabs a pick 6 in his 1st NFL game. Crazy right? I'm loving these unknown players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 For those Bo`s who don`t know football https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/14/signature-stat-snapshot-pass-rushing-productivity/ Jerry Hughes - and the bottom 20That's actually the top 20 for Hughes. Im surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted March 14, 2013 Share Posted March 14, 2013 yet NO 3-4 team gobbled him up, Because...Avril was used as a hybrid in Detroit sometimes standing up and sometimes in a 3 point stance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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