Coltswarriors Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Via Bob Kravitz on twitter. Whoa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Can't believe this.http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/01/irsay-polian-wanted-to-trade-peyton-in-2004/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanianColtsFan Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Bob Kravits of Indystar just finished an interview with Jim Irsay (it should be in IndyStar today, or part of it) Here is what Kravits said on Twitter about 1h ago Bob Kravitz @bkravitzJust to whet your appetite for a coming Irsay piece: The owner said in 2004, Polian went to him and wanted to trade Manning. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 ....for a running back no doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Mods, please merge.Sounds like a Brad Wells rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltswarriors Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Mods, please merge.Sounds like a Brad Wells rumor. Lol. Bob Kravitz reported it first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacolts56 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Via Bob Kravitz on twitter. Whoa.That's crazy....trade him for what....I wonder? Does Kravitz say? That year's 1st and 2nd draft rounds yielded some VERY mixed results....and the following year wasn't a whole lot better. http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?season=2004&round=round1#round1 http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/fulldraft?season=2005&round=round1#round1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Lol. Bob Kravitz reported it first.I know. But doesn't it sound like BBS? Why would Irsay even bring it up now? Then again, you can never tell with our owner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Moleman Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I can only imagine the offer on the table for Polian to even consider it. Bill may've been arrogant, cantankerous, and stubborn as a mule, but he's not a flat out *. He wouldn't have even stepped into Irsay's office to suggest that unless there was a monstrous- and I mean monstrous- offer for Peyton out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Peyton's "early" playoff efforts ... sucked. I could totally see it IF the right offer came along. The Manning of 04 was not close to the Manning that took the Colts to the SB against NO. And Peyton's playoff stats reflect it. Via Bob Kravitz on twitter. Whoa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Sounds like a Marshall Faulk type move if it is true. Boy, Polian would have been roasted on the coals if both Faulk and Peyton went on to other teams and won SBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Peyton's "early" playoff efforts ... sucked. I could totally see it IF the right offer came along. The Manning of 04 was not close to the Manning that took the Colts to the SB against NO. And Peyton's playoff stats reflect it. I guess we need to give Irsay and Dungy some credit for keeping the ship upright and focused. Otherwise, Polian would have been run out of town much faster. It could have been Marshall Faulk, part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I'd have traded Bill Polian for Bob Kravitz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 If RG# was worth what the Rams got for a ROOKIE what would Indy have gotten? I think it would have been in the neighborhood of3 #1's3 #2's4 #3's.... and perhaps even more.... That is what I think Manning in 04 was worth. But Polian would have burnt half those picks on a TE's.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Assuming this was before the draft, you know who the #1 pick was that year right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 But Polian would have burnt half those picks on a TE's.... Yeah, and he still would have drafted 4th round and 5th round OLs still missing on his 3rd rounders consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÅÐØNϧ 1 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I know. But doesn't it sound like BBS? Why would Irsay even bring it up now?Then again, you can never tell with our owner! Sounds to me like Irsay told Polian no way & Now wants to take credit for what was a good call . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Assuming this was before the draft, you know who the #1 pick was that year right? Eli Manning???? Now, that would have been CRUEL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Horseman Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Here's the entire article: http://www.indystar.com/article/20130301/SPORTS15/303010061/Star-Exclusive-Colts-owner-Jim-Irsay-opens-up-about-Peyton-Manning-Decision-drafting-RGIII?nclick_check=1 Much more covered about the Manning to Luck transition...good read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Peyton's "early" playoff efforts ... sucked. I could totally see it IF the right offer came along. The Manning of 04 was not close to the Manning that took the Colts to the SB against NO. And Peyton's playoff stats reflect it. Assuming this was after the 03 season and before the draft. Peyton destroyed in the playoffs until we played the Pats.Mods need to merge these threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 That is just insane how Polian was so good at identifying talent late in the draft and if FA... Yet could not hit the broad side of a barn half the time in the second and third, and even first late. I truly think the ego maniac was simply trying to show everyone how "smart" he is.. (or thought he was) I am actually glad his is gone. I was worried a bit a t first... but not now. I guarantee half of us "Colt fans who know what is going on" could have drafted better than Polian from 09 on. And I totally believe that.Yeah, and he still would have drafted 4th round and 5th round OLs still missing on his 3rd rounders consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKColt13 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 There are no words.This kind of thing is exactly why people see Polian as a complete fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I don't buy it .. I'm sure ESPN will have him on to talk about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Horseman Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 I guarantee half of us "Colt fans who know what is going on" could have drafted better than Polian from 09 on. And I totally believe that. Since the draft is such an easy thing to evaluate and picks work out the majority of the time...ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 this sounds ridiculous. owners need to keep their mouth shut. owning the team isn't good enough to feed their ego's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mameluc Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Unfortunately the NE games in 03, and 04 count. As does the Pitt game in 05. And the SB run... where Manning had ONE good half of football. After that SB win... the monkey was off dudes back and he played very well in the playoffs from there on out.Assuming this was after the 03 season and before the draft. Peyton destroyed in the playoffs until we played the Pats.Mods need to merge these threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Peyton Manning's playoff log.... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00/gamelog/post/ Take away the Denver Broncos from the NFL and Manning was straight UGLY in the playoffs pre 07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Peyton was resisting the resting starters argument and Polian said to Irsay "Get this guy out of here. Who does he think he is and why doesn't he want to rest?". Can we merge the several topics on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dee Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Well you were not one of the "savy" .com members I was thinking of.... ;) Since the draft is such an easy thing to evaluate and picks work out the majority of the time...ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGIII Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Even Irsay's version of events sounds pretty benign. Polian is frustrated with negotiations and raises the possibility of a trade... makes sense to me. I'd at least consider doing the same if I had low confidence that I could get a guy re-signed in a manner that would allow me to continue to build a team around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Eli Manning???? Now, that would have been CRUEL. Andrew Luck. Irsay was such a fan he wanted to get him worked in VERY young. No really Eli. That would have been cruel like you said and strange as heck. Never a dull moment in Colts land the last few years........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Horseman Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Well you were not one of the "savy" .com members I was thinking of.... ;) I think I'll just quote your signature on this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Irsay is thinking, "My God, so many hated me last offseason for letting Manning go. Hey fellas, the great Polian wanted Peyton out in 2004! How do you like them apples." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Even Irsay's version of events sounds pretty benign. Polian is frustrated with negotiations and raises the possibility of a trade... makes sense to me. I'd at least consider doing the same if I had low confidence that I could get a guy re-signed in a manner that would allow me to continue to build a team around him. Peyton would have ended up on the Redskins. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Even Irsay's version of events sounds pretty benign. Polian is frustrated with negotiations and raises the possibility of a trade... makes sense to me. I'd at least consider doing the same if I had low confidence that I could get a guy re-signed in a manner that would allow me to continue to build a team around him. exactly! you have to consider every option possible, it doesn't mean you want to do them. that's why he is a great gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGIII Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Peyton would have ended up on the Redskins. ;) Wouldn't surprise me. We once threw two first round picks at the Bengals for an over the hill Ochocinco. Fortunately, Mike Brown was one of few meddlesome owners at the time with more terrible instincts than that of Dan Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Peyton would have ended up on the Redskins. ;) He would have feasted on little bro' Eli, Romo, and McNabb, LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 this sounds ridiculous. owners need to keep their mouth shut. owning the team isn't good enough to feed their ego's.So the guy who actually owns the teams should remain silent...everybody else have it. The article isn't out yet so we don't know in what context it was given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck Showalter Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 exactly! you have to consider every option possible, it doesn't mean you want to do them. that's why he is a great gm.WAS...Since 2007ish he did a pretty bang up job of handicapping the franchise as well...greatest regular season GM ever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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