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1 minute ago, Boss7894 said:

 AR is our quarterback we'll ride with him and hopefully he'll be great like he was in college or even better


AR really wasn’t all that great in college.  That’s, in part, about all the controversy surrounding him.   He played in only 13 total games, less than 1,000 total snaps, and went 6-7.  
 

The Colts picking him was based on once in a generation physical tools and great character.   The Colts are projecting him to be great with the coaching they’ll give him over the next few years.  

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4 minutes ago, Boss7894 said:

This is what we do every year so far we the same team lol but we can add two starters I guess so we'll be slightly better than last year


The Colts hope to be better as the young players get better, especially Richardson. 

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We the only team with young players that weren't upper echelon in the first place getting better I guess I don't know.. This is the fun of it because we don't know the formula nobody ever had the formula

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Just now, GoColts8818 said:

Wouldn’t shock me if they expect Evan Hull to be that guy.

Or like a guy in the draft this year as a backup. We’ll see. 
 

Shocked we didn’t shell out 4 million per for Moss

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5 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

 

thats was so long ago get over it & he’s been en the nfl yu are the only that still cares about that … a football player that’s good @ football don’t respond 2 me bc i dnt care about your opinion  on this 

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1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:


Mixon wants to go somewhere to start.  He’s not looking to be someone’s backup.  

 

colts dnt have a backup runningback, it’s rb by committee here. wether JT likes it or not lol

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Just now, MFT5 said:

 

colts dnt have a backup runningback, it’s rb by committee here. wether JT likes it or not lol


Of course, that doesn’t respond to the point.  Mixon doesn’t want to be a backup.  He wants to start for someone.  Or at least get more opportunity than he’d get with the Colts.  

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Just now, NewColtsFan said:


AR really wasn’t all that great in college.  That’s, in part, about all the controversy surrounding him.   He played in only 13 total games, less than 1,000 total snaps, and went 6-7.  
 

The Colts picking him was based on once in a generation physical tools and great character.   The Colts are projecting him to be great with the coaching they’ll give him over the next few years.  

That’s part of why I never bought into the idea Ballard would “go all in” like some wanted this off-season you have a QB who played a very limited amount in college and then most of last year.  Those who think there isn’t going to be a major learning curve for Richardson, especially as teams get film on him, are kidding themselves.  It doesn’t mean he wasn’t impressive last year and it doesn’t mean he can’t be great but even Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck who were much experienced and polished coming into the NFL had learning curves that can only over come by playing.  
 

This team is still building the roster around Richardson.  I think Ballard is looking at guys he brings back or ultimately brings in and going will they be helping us two years from now or three years from now because that’s when Richardson should be ready to take them on a run.  I also think that means Ballard is comfortable going younger at some spots than fans want, like the secondary last year, or the tight end room (minus Mo) or maybe even the running back spot behind Taylor if they don’t bring someone in because he knows he has a little time to let these kids develop.  
 

yes I know that’s not what fans want to hear and yes I know only two playoff trips since Ballard took over as GM and only one play off win but the reality is Irsay cast judgment on his first six years of his career last off-season and decided to bring him back and pretty much reset the window on Ballard knowing he was taking a rookie QB and that was at least a three year window for Ballard if not four.  

5 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

Or like a guy in the draft this year as a backup. We’ll see. 
 

Shocked we didn’t shell out 4 million per for Moss

As Ballard said you can’t keep everyone.  

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I do not want to spend stupid money like the Jags are doing. But we have specific needs that need to be addressed.  The 49ers just released Armstead, he'd be nice. We could use some OL help, teams way over the cap are selling cheaply. 

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8 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:


Of course, that doesn’t respond to the point.  Mixon doesn’t want to be a backup.  He wants to start for someone.  Or at least get more opportunity than he’d get with the Colts.  

 

ok well he’s currently a free agent & i can express my opinion on a fan forum. bye 

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16 minutes ago, w87r said:

RB market is pretty bleak right now:

 

Henry

Aaron Jones

 

 

Helaire

Scott

Hunt

McKinnon

Rico Dowdle(wouldn't mind bringing him in at all.

Have to think other RB’s will be cut.  Not concerned right now.  I want some starting upgrades acquired for the team.  That’s the priority right now.

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18 minutes ago, Boss7894 said:

This is the fun of it because we don't know the formula nobody ever had the formula

 

There is no formula. The league is constantly evolving. Those that evolve (and have strong consistent qb play) win. The approach to win in the trenches isn't a bad concept. It can make a decent qb look much better and can cover up holes on the defense. The Raiders are going all-in on the d-line. Will be interesting to see what results they can get with Minshew under center. 

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11 minutes ago, ColtJax said:

I do not want to spend stupid money like the Jags are doing. But we have specific needs that need to be addressed.  The 49ers just released Armstead, he'd be nice. We could use some OL help, teams way over the cap are selling cheaply. 

A lot of teams are still over the cap and have to be below it sometime Wednesday.  More cuts are coming.

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1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This says a lot about the WR draft class. Teams are going to draft guys on rookie deals.

 

 

 

My guess is some if not many of those guys will sign tomorrow.  I’m thinking Mooney for the Colts.

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39 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

Or like a guy in the draft this year as a backup. We’ll see. 
 

Shocked we didn’t shell out 4 million per for Moss

He likely wants a chance to start. And rightfully so. I wish him well

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10 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said:

 

There is no formula. The league is constantly evolving. Those that evolve (and have strong consistent qb play) win. The approach to win in the trenches isn't a bad concept. It can make a decent qb look much better and can cover up holes on the defense. The Raiders are going all-in on the d-line. Will be interesting to see what results they can get with Minshew under center. 

In local little League usually the same group of kids wins every age bracket as they move up.. maybe that's what the Colts are somewhat doing without realizing it? if we keep the same group of people, as they get more and more experience and other people from other teams get old and quit or keep mix matching, the Colts instead of losing the tournament like they did in the previous years, the Colts will instead win the tournament, by constantly getting better steadily when all the other talent from other teams die out or trying to mix match themselves into a homerun hitter they'll instead mix match themselves into a lower team than the colts... Where our talent will finally be enough to take the crown...  Similar to winning little league... that practically the same group that couldn't win the pee wee bracket somehow won the Senior division without mix matching because we steadily got better instead of mix matching and trying to go for the jackpot and ending up with a bankrupt

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2 minutes ago, r a y s k i said:

Meh, running backs, they come and go, draft cheaper

Moss was a good player but he wasn’t a game changer like Taylor is.  You can replace guys like that and we all know running back is maybe the most replaceable position in the NFL unless you have a true game changer like Taylor is.  The odds the Colts were going to sign both was always very small if nonexistent.

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15 minutes ago, Boss7894 said:

In local little League usually the same group of kids wins every age bracket as they move up.. maybe that's what the Colts are somewhat doing without realizing it? if we keep the same group of people, as they get more and more experience and other people from other teams get old and quit or keep mix matching, the Colts instead of losing the tournament like they did in the previous years, the Colts will instead win the tournament, by constantly getting better steadily when all the other talent from other teams die out or trying to mix match themselves into a homerun hitter they'll instead mix match themselves into a lower team than the colts... Where our talent will finally be enough to take the crown...  Similar to winning little league... that practically the same group that couldn't win the pee wee bracket somehow won the Senior division without mix matching because we steadily got better instead of mix matching and trying to go for the jackpot and ending up with a bankrupt


There is something to be said about letting your team grow together. I’m watching a lot of turnover right now in the league, and every year people think and say team X had the best offseason because of the heavy hitters they brought in… rarely does it translate that way.

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1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

 

 

this was the guy the 49ers took with the pick the Colts sent them for Buckner and to replace Buckner.  Colts clearly won that trade.


yeah they clearly were looking at Kinlaw and thinking it was a nobrainer. What Buck has done for the defense since the minute he stepped foot in Indianapolis made that trade a success, regardless of what Kinlaw might have turned into… 

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43 minutes ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Cincy could offer a starting job.  The Colts couldn’t. 

I like Moss, but I don’t think Cincy has improved after tonight. 
 

So far, I’d say the Chiefs are still looking the best. Mahomes, Kelce and now Jones are running it back. They’ve got Pacheco, and will improve at WR either through the draft or FA. Biggest question for them now is Snead. 

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1 hour ago, richard pallo said:

My guess is some if not many of those guys will sign tomorrow.  I’m thinking Mooney for the Colts.

 

Probably a little tricky as this draft is loaded with WRs.

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