Jeff Saturday reveals some crazy info on his time as HC

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Smonroe]

11 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

 

Still love the guy.  And respect him.  It's great to hear a guy who knows the game talk about it.

 

Love what he said about Downs.  He's right, the kid is going to be special as long as he can keep healthy.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

The culture in this organization must of been so bad.

[BlackTiger]

Bubba probably should have been the choice over him

[Colts1324]

Wow. I’m glad he let the cat out of the bag. He admitted it was always the plan for him to come in for the 8-9 games, start young players, & go on with his life.

 

 

It’s  genius. It helped us get a franchise QB without looking like we were actively tanking

[RollerColt]

Pat on his show has repeatedly talked about how bad Reich let things get by 2022. Players late or completely missing meetings, taking bets, bad practices… 

 

The culture was poisoned. No way around it. 

[Colts1324]

10 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

Pat on his show has repeatedly talked about how bad Reich let things get by 2022. Players late or completely missing meetings, taking bets, bad practices… 

 

The culture was poisoned. No way around it. 

I think it was a bad idea for Reich to go right back into coaching. He always looked stressed & looked even worse in Carolina.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

31 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

Wow. I’m glad he let the cat out of the bag. He admitted it was always the plan for him to come in for the 8-9 games, start young players, & go on with his life.

 

 

It’s  genius. It helped us get a franchise QB without looking like we were actively tanking

He was a spy or mole 

[csmopar]

50 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Bubba probably should have been the choice over him

No way. The intent was clear from the beginning 

24 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

I think it was a bad idea for Reich to go right back into coaching. He always looked stressed & looked even worse in Carolina.

Yeah but on the other hand it just shut the national media up with the narrative that it was all Irsays fault and that he was wrong to fire Reich. 

15 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

He was a spy or mole 

Yep… some of us were saying that very thing the moment it went down…

37 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

Pat on his show has repeatedly talked about how bad Reich let things get by 2022. Players late or completely missing meetings, taking bets, bad practices… 

 

The culture was poisoned. No way around it. 

That is craziness. No wonder we went to crap. 

[RollerColt]

34 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

I think it was a bad idea for Reich to go right back into coaching. He always looked stressed & looked even worse in Carolina.

He would have too many deer in headlights moments. He also seemed way too reluctant in correcting mistakes. 
 

Reminds me of a classroom where the teacher has lost control and the kids are doing whatever they want. 

[BlackTiger]

41 minutes ago, csmopar said:

The intent was clear from the beginning 

Are you talking about tanking?  We could have lost with any coach last year

 

Bubba had respect in the building and even Jeff consulted him a lot.  I think we lost him to the browns over this and he was good to have

 

Im not sure if we even needed to tank either.  Richardson may have been available later.  Could have also gone with Levis 

[Jason_]

1 hour ago, Colts1324 said:

He admitted it was always the plan for him to come in for the 8-9 games, start young players, & go on with his life.

 

Did he say, then, why he interviewed for and seemed excited at the prospect of getting the full time gig?

[John Hammonds]

I'll say it again.  The best thing Jeff Saturday did was to stop the merry-go-round on the offensive line.  You're gonna play here, and you're gonna play here.  Full stop.  No more yanking somebody simply because he had a bad game.  Or a bad half.  Or a bad quarter.  This is the lineup.  Go play.

[chad72]

6 minutes ago, John Hammonds said:

I'll say it again.  The best thing Jeff Saturday did was to stop the merry-go-round on the offensive line.  You're gonna play here, and you're gonna play here.  Full stop.  No more yanking somebody simply because he had a bad game.  Or a bad half.  Or a bad quarter.  This is the lineup.  Go play.

 

Absolutely!!! Bernard Raimann would not be what he is today if Saturday didn't stick with him.

[RollerColt]

Just now, chad72 said:

 

Absolutely!!! Bernard Raimann would not be what he is today if Saturday didn't stick with him.

He saw Raimann in the same way that Howard Mudd saw in Saturday. 

[csmopar]

29 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Are you talking about tanking?  We could have lost with any coach last year

 

Bubba had respect in the building and even Jeff consulted him a lot.  I think we lost him to the browns over this and he was good to have

 

Im not sure if we even needed to tank either.  Richardson may have been available later.  Could have also gone with Levis 

No, I’m talking about being a spy/mole. 

[csmopar]

16 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

Did he say, then, why he interviewed for and seemed excited at the prospect of getting the full time gig?

Sometimes to land your dream job, you gotta take a Hail Mary .

 

and yes, he does say why he wanted the job, go watch it

[Dingus McGirt]

29 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

Did he say, then, why he interviewed for and seemed excited at the prospect of getting the full time gig?

To me, that gave legitimacy to the entire process.  If he hadn’t “competed” for the full time job - he would have looked like some type of corporate “hatchet-man.”  Probably not expressing my thought well, but to me it was part of the entire strategy.

[BlackTiger]

11 minutes ago, csmopar said:

No, I’m talking about being a spy/mole. 

Bubba could have done that, really thought you were talking about tanking there

[Scott Pennock]

I said many times over that FR lost the locker room…….

[Dingus McGirt]

2 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Bubba could have done that, really thought you were talking about tanking there

Nope.  An “outsider” had to be brought in.

[csmopar]

3 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Bubba could have done that, really thought you were talking about tanking there

Perhaps but it was clear that Irsay wanted someone to give him an honest , new opinion and a new set of eyes and ears but yet someone who knew Irsay and what Irsay is about. Only Jeff met that . 

[Dingus McGirt]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Perhaps but it was clear that Irsay wanted someone to give him an honest , new opinion and a new set of eyes and ears but yet someone who knew Irsay and what Irsay is about. Only Jeff met that . 

 Thanks for expressing what I was trying to get at…much better than I ever could.  

[RollerColt]

Really interesting to hear him talk about teams moving away from teaching techniques and focusing more on scheme. 

[NewColtsFan]

Something Jeff said caught my ear.   He said Gus Bradley is a really good DC.  
 

Im sure he didn’t mean it.  Perhaps he mis-spoke?    That couldn’t possibly be true.   
 

On the other hand it was nice to hear Jeff speak so highly of Steichen.  Jeff remains a class act.  We need more people like him.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Something Jeff said caught my ear.   He said Gus Bradley is a really good DC.  
 

Im sure he didn’t mean it.  Perhaps he mis-spoke?    That couldn’t possibly be true.   
 

On the other hand it was nice to hear Jeff speak so highly of Steichen.  Jeff remains a class act.  We need more people like him.  

Huh. Bradley has been above average with so many obstacles this year. And this defense was good last year until things fell apart.

[RollerColt]

46 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Something Jeff said caught my ear.   He said Gus Bradley is a really good DC.  
 

Im sure he didn’t mean it.  Perhaps he mis-spoke?    That couldn’t possibly be true.   
 

On the other hand it was nice to hear Jeff speak so highly of Steichen.  Jeff remains a class act.  We need more people like him.  

Did you get the feeling he was catching himself a few times? Like he wanted to divulge a bit more and then pulled back? 
 

I’m not a big Bradley fan as most know, but it’s more about his scheme that he and Ballard put together. But I do know he’s a very good teacher and the players think highly of him. 
 

I keep seeing so many ex coaches and players who still support the Colts even after their time is over. I really think it means something that Coach Pagano and now Coach Saturday (he’s earned the title) continue to follow the team. 

[JediXMan]

Jeff Saturday is one of my all time favorite Colts. The media gave him Hell last year but he took it like a champ.

 

 

[CR91]

Honestly nothing Jeff said wasn't anything a lot of weren't saying already. 

[NewColtsFan]

2 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Huh. Bradley has been above average with so many obstacles this year. And this defense was good last year until things fell apart.

My comment was about the overwhelming view in this website that Gus Bradley is terrible.  It’s not a view I share, but the view is very real

 

Are you telling me you are unaware of that view here in our community?    

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

My comment was about the overwhelming view in this website that Gus Bradley is terrible.  It’s not a view I share, but the view is very real

 

Are you telling me you are unaware of that view here in our community?    

Gotcha. You said Saturday was being nice about saying Bradley was a  good coach. I see now you were being sarcastic about the view of him. Maybe I misunderstood you. Maybe Saturdays observation of Bradley helped him keep his job.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

Did you get the feeling he was catching himself a few times? Like he wanted to divulge a bit more and then pulled back? 
 

I’m not a big Bradley fan as most know, but it’s more about his scheme that he and Ballard put together. But I do know he’s a very good teacher and the players think highly of him. 
 

I keep seeing so many ex coaches and players who still support the Colts even after their time is over. I really think it means something that Coach Pagano and now Coach Saturday (he’s earned the title) continue to follow the team. 

Im not a big Bradley fan either.   I won’t be disappointed if the Colts move on from him at the end of the year.  
 

I just tire of the endless pounding of Bradley.   It might be THE most prevalent community viewpoint, IMO.   And if you’re in the community chat room on game day you’d think Gus Bradley is the answer to every negative issue.  
 

Once the community doesn’t like someone, it’s hard to change perception.  It’s an issue in our community I quickly discovered when I first joined here 12+ years ago.   
 

As for Saturday pulling punches….  Yes, somewhat.  Good catch.  But I think he wanted to withhold some things but also was wondering how much time he had left to tell some stories.   Jeff was the focal point of the panel and he seemed like he didn’t want to completely dominate the time. 
 

Interesting video. 

[NewColtsFan]

15 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Gotcha. You said Saturday was being nice about saying Bradley was a  good coach. I see now you were being sarcastic about the view of him. Maybe I misunderstood you. Maybe Saturdays observation of Bradley helped him keep his job.

Sorry I wasn’t more clear.  My bad.  Yes, I was being sarcastic.   I need to be more careful when I do that.   
 

It’s possible a good word from Jeff helped Gus.  Certainly didn’t hurt.  Still, Ballard is a fan of Gus.  I expected him back this season.   For me, the bigger question is will Gus be back next year in 24?  Steichen will obviously have strong input.    
 

Whether Gus is back will be one of the most interesting questions this off-season.  I expect it to come very quickly.  Perhaps within a week. 
 

Again, sorry I wasn’t more clear in my previous post. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

FWIW since that saints game colds have allowed 5th fewest points in the league. I know the teams we played are not great but he did make changes to the scheme.

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

FWIW since that saints game colds have allowed 5th fewest points in the league. I know the teams we played are not great but he did make changes to the scheme.

what changes did he make to the scheme? 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

8 minutes ago, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said:

what changes did he make to the scheme? 

He switched to playing quarters instead of all the cover 2 and 3. It’s given the pass rushers more time to get to the QB.  It’s helped the young secondary a ton. Read some stuff Zach hicks has store on the changes.

[smittywerb]

10 hours ago, Colts1324 said:

Wow. I’m glad he let the cat out of the bag. He admitted it was always the plan for him to come in for the 8-9 games, start young players, & go on with his life.

 

 

It’s  genius. It helped us get a franchise QB without looking like we were actively tanking

I called it when Saturday first got brought on.  Saturday was just an evaluator of the org and players.  He was just there to report back to the boss and let him know what needed to be fixed.  Sort of like a consultant.  Saturday was someone Irsay respected and trusted that he wouldn’t lie to him.

[BlackTiger]

14 hours ago, csmopar said:

Perhaps but it was clear that Irsay wanted someone to give him an honest , new opinion and a new set of eyes and ears but yet someone who knew Irsay and what Irsay is about. Only Jeff met that . 

Oh I have heard that one too, still think it should have been Bubba

14 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said:

Nope.  An “outsider” had to be brought in.

Nah still should have been Bubba, that really wasnt a great reason

[lester]

5 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

Oh I have heard that one too, still think it should have been Bubba

Nah still should have been Bubba, that really wasnt a great reason

 

I like Bubba. But he was part of the regime. You can't accept a report on the regime from a person who is part of the regime.

 

If the goal was to win a few more games, Bubba would have been the right choice. If the goal was to triage the whole organization, it had to be an outsider. It had to be an outsider who was trusted. That is a very small group to choose from.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

If you guys have a subscription to the athletic go read this story. Huge indictment on Reich. If this stuff was going on with colts no wonder  this team fell apart last season.