Poll - QB Preference (now that PR has officially retired) (merge)

[danlhart87]

4 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Some of you would rather have mediocre in someone like fitz or jimmy G then the high upside of Wentz. I don’t get it. The truth is we aren’t going to be able to get hifh enough most likely in the draft to our bid teams. So that is kind of a fantasy. If we don’t get Wentz it’s looking more and more like this will be Eason and someone brought in to compete with. We are kind of running out of options.

BTW i don't want either of the above 

The only FA I'm ok with 1 year is Trubisky 

[richard pallo]

4 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Like someone mentioned yesterday with Darnold. Ballard mentioned how they can go back and read their scouting reports. If they go back and he has a positive one from the colts in 2018 it’s a possibility but he should only be brought in to compete with Eason.

Darnold is already an NFL starter.  Ballard is not sure Eason is even a backup.  They can compete but it will take a miracle for Eason to take the job.  Especially after we trade for Darnold.

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, richard pallo said:

Darnold is already an NFL starter.  Ballard is not sure Eason is even a backup.  They can compete but it will take a miracle for Eason to take the job.  Especially after we trade for Darnold.

I would be fine with this next year 

 

QB1 Darnold 

QB2 Eason

[richard pallo]

Just now, danlhart87 said:

I would be fine with this next year 

 

QB1 Darnold 

QB2 Eason

Me too.  And Ballard said our window is "cracking".  What better way to open it than with a 23 yr. old Darnold who finally receives good coaching and lands on a team with a young and strong roster.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I would be fine with this next year 

 

QB1 Darnold 

QB2 Eason

Darnold has done nothing to earn that. It has to be a competition. If Darnold wins do be it but in no way should he be handed the keys. Plus there has to be a vet if your having two guys compete.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

8 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Darnold is already an NFL starter.  Ballard is not sure Eason is even a backup.  They can compete but it will take a miracle for Eason to take the job.  Especially after we trade for Darnold.

DArnold hasn’t proven anything in 3 years. If he is better and his experience shows then he will win the job. In know way has he done anything to be handed the starting job.

[danlhart87]

2 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Darnold has done nothing to earn that. It has to be a competition. If Darnold wins do be it but in no way should he be handed the keys. Plus there has to be a vet if your having two guys compete.

He would be the starter opening day if traded for. Ballard said he doesn't even know if Eason would be backup yet.

[danlhart87]

3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Darnold has done nothing to earn that. It has to be a competition. If Darnold wins do be it but in no way should he be handed the keys. Plus there has to be a vet if your having two guys compete.

There is a very big difference in Wentz and Darnold and its their contract. Wentz you better hope plays well cause it complicates things if he flames out. Darnold if bad really doesn't effect that much and focus on Eason .

[jvan1973]

15 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

DArnold hasn’t proven anything in 3 years. If he is better and his experience shows then he will win the job. In know way has he done anything to be handed the starting job.

Nobody that would be drafted or traded for has proven anything.   

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

13 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

He would be the starter opening day if traded for. Ballard said he doesn't even know if Eason would be backup yet.

Not if we get him for a 3rd or a 4th. No way Ballard is giving up anything higher for him. Have the young guys compete and it increases the chances of finding the guy. 

[danlhart87]

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

Not if we get him for a 3rd or a 4th. No way Ballard is giving up anything higher for him. Have the young guys compete and it increases the chances of finding the guy. 

He would cost at least a 2nd 

Value of QBs skyrocketed after Rams trade

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:

Nobody that would be drafted or traded for has proven anything.   

That isn’t true. Wentz was on pace to win mvp. He had one bad season. Even the injury concerns are silly. He has played in 90% of his games. That doesn’t count this year where he was benched. 

Just now, danlhart87 said:

He would cost at least a 2nd 

Value of QBs skyrocketed after Rams trade

If Ballard won’t part with a first for Stafford it Wentz he sure in the he’ll isn’t giving up second for Darnold.

[jskinnz]

32 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I don't hate Wentz

Its his contract I don't like 

 

Darnold would be much cheaper

Gives Colts room to focus on other FAs

Yes the closer to the Draft we get the more desperate people will get. Get him for 21 now!

 

On Wentz' contract, who much of that are you paying?

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

That isn’t true. Wentz was on pace to win mvp. He had one bad season. Even the injury concerns are silly. He has played in 90% of his games. That doesn’t count this year where he was benched. 

It's not his play that worries people. Its his contract.

 

I expect him to be better in Indy but there's no way I want that contract 

Just now, jskinnz said:

 

On Wentz' contract, who much of that are you paying?

All of it

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Going to be interesting to see if this guy is right.

 

 

[danlhart87]

4 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

That isn’t true. Wentz was on pace to win mvp. He had one bad season. Even the injury concerns are silly. He has played in 90% of his games. That doesn’t count this year where he was benched. 

If Ballard won’t part with a first for Stafford it Wentz he sure in the he’ll isn’t giving up second for Darnold.

Then he isn't getting him 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

It's not his play that worries people. Its his contract.

 

I expect him to be better in Indy but there's no way I want that contract 

All of it

He can be cut after one year with barely any dead cap. No dead cap after two years. It’s not anymore then we paid Rivers.

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Going to be interesting to see if this guy is right.

 

 

Makes me very happy 

[richard pallo]

26 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Darnold has done nothing to earn that. It has to be a competition. If Darnold wins do be it but in no way should he be handed the keys. Plus there has to be a vet if your having two guys compete.

He is a vet.  He's been a starter for 3 years.

[csmopar]

2 hours ago, MikeCurtis said:

Where do you draft Trask?

 

Excellent stats for College

 

Excellent mid and short accuracy and touch 

 

Said to have an average arm, said to be a statue....

 

I'm not against Trask, 

 

Is he still around at our pick at round 2?

 

Do you draft another developmental QB to put on the roster? Do we give up on Eason?

 

Who starts in Sept?

 

Neither are probably anywhere close to being ready to suit up

 

(That means we ALSO have to bring in a vet.)

 

Asking for a friend....

 

 

 

Just gonna say this: pretty much everybody said Peyton Manning couldn’t throw deep, that he lacked strength, yet that didn’t matter much did it?

4 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Going to be interesting to see if this guy is right.

 

 

Mack and 3 1sts

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, csmopar said:

Just gonna say this: pretty much everybody said Peyton Manning couldn’t throw deep, that he lacked strength, yet that didn’t matter much did it?

Who is Peyton Manning 

[richard pallo]

9 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

That isn’t true. Wentz was on pace to win mvp. He had one bad season. Even the injury concerns are silly. He has played in 90% of his games. That doesn’t count this year where he was benched. 

If Ballard won’t part with a first for Stafford it Wentz he sure in the he’ll isn’t giving up second for Darnold.

How do you know he wouldn't part with a 1st. for Stafford?  He very well could have been willing to but when the price was more than that he dropped out.  Very possible.  You pay a 1st for Buckner.  You pay a 1st for Stafford. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

The amount of people going just moved up in the draft makes me laugh. Like it’s so easy to do. Like there isn’t teams with better draft capital that also want to do that.

[danlhart87]

Just now, richard pallo said:

How do you know he wouldn't part with a 1st. for Stafford?  He very well could have been willing to but when the price was more than that he dropped out.  Very possible.  You pay a 1st for Buckner.  You pay a 1st for Stafford. 

It was reported he didn't but who can believe anyone 

[danlhart87]

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

The amount of people going just moved up in the draft makes me laugh. Like it’s so easy to do. Like there isn’t teams with better draft capital that also want to do that.

I'm curious of something 

Let's pretend Bears get Wentz

 

Who are the top 3 candidates you want 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Colt fans need to realize if we don’t get Wentz we are basically down to nothing. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

I'm curious of something 

Let's pretend Bears get Wentz

 

Who are the top 3 candidates you want 

There are none. They are all garbage or unrealistic like Carr and Watson. Sooner colt fans realize that the better. Trading up in the draft is almost slim to none too. 

 

I am ok with starting Eason or bringing another young guy to compete.

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

Colt fans need to realize if we don’t get Wentz we are basically down to nothing. 

Stop overreacting 

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

There are none. They are all garbage or unrealistic like Carr and Watson. Sooner colt fans realize that the better. Trading up in the draft is almost slim to none too.

By all means give up 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

So the bears are still negotiating. I love how these guys make it sound like something is done.

 

https://twitter.com/brobnfl/status/1358143980047904771?s=21

[danlhart87]

@Chloe6124

 

I don't mean to offend you it just seems everytime Colts don't go the route you want you get so doom and gloom.

 

Keep your head up 

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

So the bears are still negotiating. I love how these guys make it sound like something is done.

 

https://twitter.com/brobnfl/status/1358143980047904771?s=21

You can't believe everything on Twitter 

[danlhart87]

7 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

I'm curious of something 

Let's pretend Bears get Wentz

 

Who are the top 3 candidates you want 

@Smoke317

 

What are yours 

[jvan1973]

9 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

Colt fans need to realize if we don’t get Wentz we are basically down to nothing. 

You need to put the internet down.    

[Smoke317]

I heard some NFL evaluator say that Darnold may not be ready to just plug in and start.  He’s been one of the worst QB’s in the league every year since he’s been drafted.  Remember he was seeing ghosts???  Said it may be better to get him and let him sit and work on his game for a little while.  Rebuild up his mechanics and confidence. Just throwing him out there could be the final nail in his 1st round bust coffin if the struggles early in a new system.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I would be perfectly fine going out and see if you can get Merriota either as Easons backup or bring him in to compete with Eason. Gives us a vet but if Eason is ready then it’s a bonus for us. Reich probably could design a offense around Marcus to make us competitive.

[danlhart87]

1 minute ago, Smoke317 said:

I heard some NFL evaluator say that Darnold may not be ready to just plug in and start.  He’s been one of the worst QB’s in the league every year since he’s been drafted.  Remember he was seeing ghosts???  Said it may be better to get him and let him sit and work on his game for a little while.  Rebuild up his mechanics and confidence. Just throwing him out there could be the final nail in his 1st round bust coffin if the struggles early in a new system.  

Most teams aren't gonna trade picks for him just to sit him. If we did that it would be stupid cause that's what they are doing with Eason. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

2 minutes ago, Smoke317 said:

I heard some NFL evaluator say that Darnold may not be ready to just plug in and start.  He’s been one of the worst QB’s in the league every year since he’s been drafted.  Remember he was seeing ghosts???  Said it may be better to get him and let him sit and work on his game for a little while.  Rebuild up his mechanics and confidence. Just throwing him out there could be the final nail in his 1st round bust coffin if the struggles early in a new system.  

I heard that too. Said if a team brought him in to sit a year it might help him.

[danlhart87]

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

I would be perfectly fine going out and see if you can get Merriota either as Easons backup or bring him in to compete with Eason. Gives us a vet but if Eason is ready then it’s a bonus for us. Reich probably could design a offense around Marcus to make us competitive.

I think at best in 2021 Eason will be the backup 

[Smoke317]

3 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

@Smoke317

 

What are yours 

All draft. Fields. Wilson. & Lance. In that order of preference.  I’d be ok with bringing in Foles or Jacoby on cheap 2 year deal to mentor or bridge any of those 3 options.  Either go the Lamar (half season bridge) or Mahomes (full season bridge).  I’m not in favor of giving up a first for any of the available retreads.  Not even Carr.  Definitely not Darnold or Wentz.  I’m only trading firsts for the 3 draft eligible QB’s I listed. 

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