Reggie Wayne wants Thomas traded to Colts

[Rackeen305]

2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am just playing around now but I still can't believe how big of a bust Jeff George was. Watching him play was rough stuff!

Im glad you understood that I was joking as well. For anyone to mention Elway knowing he never played for the Colts is funny. But I became a Colts fan durnig the glory years of PM stretch handoffs to Edge or Playaction off the handoffs to edge to a down the field bomb to Marvelous Marvin Harrison.

 

Can anyone tell me why those concepts has never been added to AL playbook? The PA/stretch handoffs to the RB. That was a thing of beauty. like a well tuned orchestra. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, Rackeen305 said:

Im glad you understood that I was joking as well. For anyone to mention Elway knowing he never played for the Colts is funny. But I became a Colts fan durnig the glory years of PM stretch handoffs to Edge or Playaction off the handoffs to edge to a down the field bomb to Marvelous Marvin Harrison.

 

Can anyone tell me why those concepts has never been added to AL playbook? The PA/stretch handoffs to the RB. That was a thing of beauty. like a well tuned orchestra. 

I love the Play Action, would like to see Luck do it more. The stretch play to Edge was Edge's signature play. Yeah almost everyone who is a diehard Colts fans knows we traded Elway for Chris Hinton and Elway never wore a Colts uniform. Hinton was a Great O.Lineman though, one of the best we have ever had.

[Finball]

5 minutes ago, Rackeen305 said:

Im glad you understood that I was joking as well. For anyone to mention Elway knowing he never played for the Colts is funny. But I became a Colts fan durnig the glory years of PM stretch handoffs to Edge or Playaction off the handoffs to edge to a down the field bomb to Marvelous Marvin Harrison.

 

Can anyone tell me why those concepts has never been added to AL playbook? The PA/stretch handoffs to the RB. That was a thing of beauty. like a well tuned orchestra. 

 

There needs to be a threat of a run for PA to work well. 

 

Colts haven't had the OL nor RB(s) for that. Hopefully that will change soon.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

19 hours ago, Rackeen305 said:

Can anyone tell me why those concepts has never been added to AL playbook? The PA/stretch handoffs to the RB. That was a thing of beauty. like a well tuned orchestra. 

 

Having a RB of Edgerrin James' caliber was instrumental in those concepts working as well as they did. It's tough to sell those play fakes if you don't have a dominant run game.

[Finball]

Peyton also sold play fakes as well as anyone.

[GoColts8818]

That would be a move of a win now team.  This team isn’t in that mind set.

[Goatface Killah]

46 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

That would be a move of a win now team.  This team isn’t in that mind set.

I disagree, it absolutely better be our mindset. We are absolutely trying to win every week. We have a great QB in his prime, we should always be on the hunt.

 

I would actually like it if they brought in Thomas, not because I think he will be the guy he was with Manning, more because he is an upgrade to a very weak position group and a solid veteran. He is actually playing pretty good this year, and if you put him with Luck, Hilton, Doyle and Ebron, he will get a ton of single coverage.

 

He actually had 80+ catches last year, and is on pace for similar numbers with more TDs. And he doesnt have Andrew Luck throwing him the ball.

 

He would be a really good fit on that left side as a blocker with Doyle, Castonzo, Nelson and Kelly. A 6'3" 225lb receiver added to that group would mean trouble for opposing defenses. We want to be a power running team, well he fits that.

 

We are very, very young. It doesn't hurt to have veterans who work hard and can teach young players. He is not dead. Remember Reggie Wayne? He was productive well into his 30's. Remember Larry Fitz? There are a million examples of receivers playing well into their 30's. If he could give us 3 good years, it would provide a great bridge and allow us to groom someone behind him.

 

 

[GoColts8818]

8 minutes ago, GoatBeard said:

I disagree, it absolutely better be our mindset. We are absolutely trying to win every week. We have a great QB in his prime, we should always be on the hunt.

 

I would actually like it if they brought in Thomas, not because I think he will be the guy he was with Manning, more because he is an upgrade to a very weak position group and a solid veteran. He is actually playing pretty good this year, and if you put him with Luck, Hilton, Doyle and Ebron, he will get a ton of single coverage.

 

He actually had 80+ catches last year, and is on pace for similar numbers with more TDs. And he doesnt have Andrew Luck throwing him the ball.

 

He would be a really good fit on that left side as a blocker with Doyle, Castonzo, Nelson and Kelly. A 6'3" 225lb receiver added to that group would mean trouble for opposing defenses. We want to be a power running team, well he fits that.

 

We are very, very young. It doesn't hurt to have veterans who work hard and can teach young players. He is not dead. Remember Reggie Wayne? He was productive well into his 30's. Remember Larry Fitz? There are a million examples of receivers playing well into their 30's. If he could give us 3 good years, it would provide a great bridge and allow us to groom someone behind him.

 

 

This team is rebuilding.  They know it which is why Ballard talked about his three year plan and building through the draft.  This is not a team like the Jags who thinks it can win a Super Bowl this year with one more guy.  This is a team that wants to play their young guys let them develop and try to get better each week.  

[Goatface Killah]

1 hour ago, GoColts8818 said:

This team is rebuilding.  They know it which is why Ballard talked about his three year plan and building through the draft.  This is not a team like the Jags who thinks it can win a Super Bowl this year with one more guy.  This is a team that wants to play their young guys let them develop and try to get better each week.  

I just flat out disagree with that line of thinking. 

[Jackie Daytona]

6 hours ago, GoatBeard said:

I just flat out disagree with that line of thinking. 

 

Which is cool, and definitely your prerogative,  but what he said isn't exactly untrue, or contrary to the team's plans.

[Goatface Killah]

3 hours ago, Shafty138 said:

 

Which is cool, and definitely your prerogative,  but what he said isn't exactly untrue, or contrary to the team's plans.

I think what he is saying is pure speculation. Saying you are gonna build thru the draft doesnt mean every addition is gonna be thru the draft or a young player. Regardless of what the big picture is, the team has games coming up and looking at the schedule, every single one is a winnable game for us. We can win now and in the future. Why would you wait to upgrade the receiver position? That makes zero sense.

[JustAColtsFan]

On 10/26/2018 at 12:48 PM, Finball said:

Peyton also sold play fakes as well as anyone.

Luck had his best last Sunday.  Looking left, looking left pass right to Mack - TD COLTS!

[Peterk2011]

On 10/24/2018 at 9:20 PM, Coltsfan0112 said:

Hell no. I live in Colorado and all Bronco fans hate him and want him gone. I have to agree. The dude has stone hands. Drops balls way too much.

 

All Bronco fans hate him? Oh, c'mon.  They love Bay-bay. They critize him of course, because his production has dropped, but it's not hate, it's like when Colts fan critize Luck for committing "dumb" mistakes. It's not hate.

 

I follow the Broncos for a decade, and IMO, Thomas is still good. He is just not great any more. I think if the Colts could get him for a 5th round would, that would be a great deal. (They would need to re-negotiate his contract as well, because his 17 mill salary next year is too much, he doesn't worth that much.) All in all, he had Osweiler, Lynch, Siemian and now Keenum and still had an OK production. With Luck, he'd be much better.

[Dark Superman]

If Denver would take a mid-round draft pick then maybe but isn't he 30? Normally, I would be all over this but I think right now we should just keep on developing our young guys and after the season see where we're at. I rather see us Draft or Sign a younger guy during the off-season.

[John Waylon]

I guess Reggie isn’t a fan of Chester Rodgers...

 

Not that I blame him. 

[krunk]

headed to texans

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000981525/article/texans-closing-in-on-trade-for-demaryius-thomas

[MarquisJ]

I didn’t want him at all anyway plus I hear it’s for a mid round pick? 3rd? 4th? Yeah no thanks.

[jchandler7]

3 minutes ago, krunk said:

headed to texans

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000981525/article/texans-closing-in-on-trade-for-demaryius-thomas

Just seen this on Bleacher Report. Not good for us. Another big body for our corners to try to cover. Was hoping the Colts would be in play. Definitely makes the Texans better. 

[Mr.Debonair]

18 minutes ago, krunk said:

headed to texans

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000981525/article/texans-closing-in-on-trade-for-demaryius-thomas

Not a bad pick up for them. Will take some heat off Hopkins. 

[braveheartcolt]

4th and swapping 7th's.

[John Waylon]

Wow. Not excited to see him lining up opposite of Hopkins at all. 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

4 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Wow. Not excited to see him lining up opposite of Hopkins at all. 

 

I'd guess they'll run him out of the slot, & have Coutee line up on the outside.

[Mr.Debonair]

Just now, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I'd guess they'll run him out of the slot, & have Coutee line up on the outside.

Coutee killed us and then disappeared

[John Waylon]

Just now, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I'd guess they'll run him out of the slot, & have Coutee line up on the outside.

 

Coutee is gonna have to stay healthy. That’s proven to be an issue thus far. 

[chad72]

10 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

 

I'd guess they'll run him out of the slot, & have Coutee line up on the outside.

 

Coutee is best suited to the slot with his short area quickness while the outside wide outs clear space underneath. DT will be on the outside, pretty sure, with his size for the most part, and he will be used in the middle every now and then as well but most of the time, he will line up outside.

[Barry Sears]

Does Thomas to the Texans result in Ballard shoring up our defensive backfield in a trade?  I know we play the Texans just once more this season, so if Ballard does a deal, it will have to be reasonable and not a reach, or giving up too much.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

Texans are actively trying to mortgage their future for mediocre WRs.

 

[Mr.Debonair]

1 minute ago, Steamboat_Shaun said:

Texans are actively trying to mortgage their future for mediocre WRs.

 

Bill O'Brien doesn't have much life left. Watson has proven he can get the ball there. Can't blame them for going all in

[Case]

3 minutes ago, Barry Sears said:

Does Thomas to the Texans result in Ballard shoring up our defensive backfield in a trade?  I know we play the Texans just once more this season, so if Ballard does a deal, it will have to be reasonable and not a reach, or giving up too much.

He didn’t do it prior to the Fuller injury so not sure why he would now. Fuller worries me way more than Thomas. 

[Steamboat_Shaun]

6 minutes ago, Mr.Debonair said:

Bill O'Brien doesn't have much life left. Watson has proven he can get the ball there. Can't blame them for going all in

 

I guess I'd agree with that, & on the flip side, I'm glad we're not sending away draft picks for players that would likely only be 8 game rentals.

[ColtV]

38 minutes ago, braveheartcolt said:

4th and swapping 7th's.

I am stunned we wouldn't consider that trade

[Barry Sears]

14 minutes ago, MightyLucks said:

He didn’t do it prior to the Fuller injury so not sure why he would now. Fuller worries me way more than Thomas. 

 

Good point

[Case]

5 minutes ago, ColtV said:

I am stunned we wouldn't consider that trade

Why? He’s a 31 year old WR who drops the ball. 

 

People really havent been paying attention to anything Ballard has been saying since he’s been here. 

[r a y s k i]

Very happy the Texans made this trade, will set them back a wee bit more.

Doesn't make any sense. 

 

BOB should be on his way out soon anyway.

[ColtV]

1 minute ago, MightyLucks said:

Why? He’s a 31 year old WR who drops the ball. 

 

People really havent been paying attention to anything Ballard has been saying since he’s been here. 

For a fourth round pick, on a team that has a dearth of talent at receiver after TY, yes I'm stunned. 

 

I've heard him, I just dont think that means he should obstinately refuse any notions of trading. 

[Case]

1 minute ago, ColtV said:

For a fourth round pick, on a team that has a dearth of talent at receiver after TY, yes I'm stunned. 

 

I've heard him, I just dont think that means he should obstinately refuse any notions of trading. 

I could see him adding a pass rusher or someone in secondary but these WR have already played their best football.  

[18to87]

1 minute ago, ColtV said:

For a fourth round pick, on a team that has a dearth of talent at receiver after TY, yes I'm stunned. 

 

I've heard him, I just dont think that means he should obstinately refuse any notions of trading. 

 

I agree. This seems like a small price to pay to add a piece that could project you to one of, if not the best offense in the NFL. It stings even more that Thomas went to a team in the division that just had a major injury at WR.

[Mr.Debonair]

4 minutes ago, rayski said:

Very happy the Texans made this trade, will set them back a wee bit more.

Doesn't make any sense. 

 

BOB should be on his way out soon anyway.

How does this set them back?

[Case]

4 minutes ago, ColtV said:

For a fourth round pick, on a team that has a dearth of talent at receiver after TY, yes I'm stunned. 

 

I've heard him, I just dont think that means he should obstinately refuse any notions of trading. 

Or if he feels the price is right for Parker. 

[Case]

1 minute ago, 18to87 said:

 

I agree. This seems like a small price to pay to add a piece that could project you to one of, if not the best offense in the NFL. It stings even more that Thomas went to a team in the division that just had a major injury at WR.

Small price to pay? Mack and Hines were 4th RD picks. 

 

14 mill next year for a 31 year, past his prime WR?