If there is a specific player at pick 17, would you trade pick 37 and pick 49 to move up? If so, who would that player be?

[FalseStart]

If there is a specific player at pick 17, would you trade pick 37 and pick 49 to move up? If so, who would that player be?

 

~950pts. = 950pts.

[UKColt13]

Leighton Vander Esche for me. Unless we take Tremaine Edmunds. 

 

If we took Roquan I’d put him at ROLB and LVE at MLB.

 

I’d be hesitant to trade back up due to the amount of holes we have to fill, but that’s one I wouldn’t be mad about.

[Yoshinator]

Yes, I would trade up for Vita Vea if he was there.

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, UKColt13 said:

Leighton Vander Esche for me. Unless we take Tremaine Edmunds. 

 

If we took Roquan I’d put him at ROLB and LVE at MLB

Thought about Vander Esch, but I'm assuming we are taking Roquan Smith as of now, and I would rather have two 2nds then get Vander Esch in a trade up. How's it going in the UK right now?

[Hoose]

The only way I would trade back into the first if I were the Colts is if they make a Buffalo type deal with the 6th pick, get two 1s a two and a three,  and could move the 22nd and a high 3rd for a higher 1st. So, if no trade from the 6 pick to get a wealth of extra picks, no trade. But if the Buffalo treasure trove happens, I could see your scenario happening. 

[Fluke_33]

Landry 

[tvturner]

Derwin James, LVE, Harold Landry, or DaRon Payne

[NewColtsFan]

No.     I would not do that trade.    I'm not trading two 2's for a first.    

 

The Colts are NOT one great player away.    We are many great players away.   We need ALL the picks we have and more.

 

Ask me that same question in 2020.   Maybe my answer will be different....

 

[Boiler_Colt]

Not really for it, but to answer the question; Landry or McGlinchey.

[Fisticuffs111]

I know it kinda spits in the face of the hypothetical, but I voted no in part because I don't think the Chargers would do this trade. I also like the idea of having two back-to-back picks in the early 2nd too much.

[cm43sports]

Derwin James. He's a player you can continue to build a defense around and a player that can rally others around him in the locker room. If the Colts trade pick 3 and walk away with Roquan Smith and Derwin James, I would be extremely happy.

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

I know it kinda spits in the face of the hypothetical, but I voted no because I don't think the Chargers would do this trade.

You are not allowed to think that way! The Chargers offered us a trade for the #17 pick, and we get to decide who to trade up for dangit!! 

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, cm43sports said:

Derwin James. He's a player you can continue to build a defense around and a player that can rally others around him in the locker room. If the Colts trade pick 3 and walk away with Roquan Smith and Derwin James, I would be extremely happy.

Not sure if Derwin would fall to 17 tbh. That would be a heck of a duo though to draft at defense in the 1st round.

[Boiler_Colt]

6 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

No.     I would not do that trade.    I'm not trading two 2's for a first.    

 

The Colts are NOT one great player away.    We are many great players away.   We need ALL the picks we have and more.

 

Ask me that same question in 2020.   Maybe my answer will be different....

 

Well it's not really an all in on one player scenario because you're getting a highly rated player at 6 AND 17. It's a matter of how much drop off in talent is there on your board after a certain point. Would the player at 17 have a better impact than the combo of players at 37 and 49? Keep in mind you still have 36 as well.

 

Not that im for it as I see the talent from 17-50 as similar value but I don't think we can guess how Ballard's board is stacked at this point to rule it out. For the record, I don't think we will use all 9 picks this year, so I see a trade up somewhere.

[richard pallo]

No,  But if I had to pick it would be Landry or Ridley. 

[Fisticuffs111]

5 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

You are not allowed to think that way! The Chargers offered us a trade for the #17 pick, and we get to decide who to trade up for dangit!! 

Although I will admit the prospect you mentioned, Vita Vea, would be one of the few guys I'd think long and hard about trading up for if he fell that far (especially if it'd only take our 37th and 49th). He's a stud, would be one of if not our best D-line players immediately.

[cm43sports]

17 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Not sure if Derwin would fall to 17 tbh. That would be a heck of a duo though to draft at defense in the 1st round.

Agreed. There's rumors he may be as gone as soon as 7 to the Bucs. James has been my favorite prospect this whole draft cycle.

[WarGhost21]

1 hour ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yes, I would trade up for Vita Vea if he was there.

Vea doesn't really fit the scheme currently, he's more of a big NT who plugs gaps, not a interior pass rusher

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, WarGhost21 said:

Vea doesn't really fit the scheme currently, he's more of a big NT who plugs gaps, not a interior pass rusher

He's a 3-4 guy? The NT isn't supposed to be a pass rusher. If he doesn't fit the scheme, then I hope we don't get him, but it has nothing to do with whether he can sack the QB. I would want him to stuff the run. 

[Boiler_Colt]

4 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

He's a 3-4 guy? The NT isn't supposed to be a pass rusher. If he doesn't fit the scheme, then I hope we don't get him, but it has nothing to do with whether he can sack the QB. I would want him to stuff the run. 

He's essentially Hankins so I don't think he fits what we're looking for in the new scheme.

[HectorRoberts]

I have to pick McGlinchey but I rather have more picks

[MikeCurtis]

For me it would be HIGHLY conditional- 9 times out of 10.... its HECK no!

 

so.. would say yes in theory, but probably not

 

You never know what prospect might slide

 

 

 

 

[wig]

44 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

He's a 3-4 guy? The NT isn't supposed to be a pass rusher. If he doesn't fit the scheme, then I hope we don't get him, but it has nothing to do with whether he can sack the QB. I would want him to stuff the run. 

 

If we traded two 2s for Vea after releasing Hankins I will lose my mind. 

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, Boiler_Colt said:

Well it's not really an all in on one player scenario because you're getting a highly rated player at 6 AND 17. It's a matter of how much drop off in talent is there on your board after a certain point. Would the player at 17 have a better impact than the combo of players at 37 and 49? Keep in mind you still have 36 as well.

 

Not that im for it as I see the talent from 17-50 as similar value but I don't think we can guess how Ballard's board is stacked at this point to rule it out. For the record, I don't think we will use all 9 picks this year, so I see a trade up somewhere.

 

I see possible trade-ups as coming on Day-3.    

 

The Colts trade Henry Anderson and a 5 to move back into the 4th round.   Something like that.

 

Package a player and a pick for a higher pick.   Otherwise I don't see Ballard trading two picks for one.

 

[wig]

14 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I see possible trade-ups as coming on Day-3.    

 

The Colts trade Henry Anderson and a 5 to move back into the 4th round.   Something like that.

 

Package a player and a pick for a higher pick.   Otherwise I don't see Ballard trading two picks for one.

 

 

To think there is absolutely no way Ballard would trade up is crazy. If someone he sees as a high level starter at a position of need falls, he would 100% consider it. 

[FalseStart]

23 minutes ago, wig said:

 

To think there is absolutely no way Ballard would trade up is crazy. If someone he sees as a high level starter at a position of need falls, he would 100% consider it. 

 

Say we trade #6 to Buffalo for #12, #22, then following this scenario (#37, #49 for #17...).  There would be 3 picks in RD1 w/ #36 in round two available... net picks still 4 through rounds 1-2. Probably won't happen...didn't see any topics on trading back-up.  Thought I would pose the idea...interesting views by all.

 

#12: Edmunds, James, Smith, Landry, etc...

#17: McGlinchey, Ridley, Guice, Hurst, etc...

#22: Hernandez, Daniels, Sutton, Evans, etc...

#36: Moore, Harrison, O'Neil, Smith G, etc...

[NewColtsFan]

44 minutes ago, wig said:

 

To think there is absolutely no way Ballard would trade up is crazy. If someone he sees as a high level starter at a position of need falls, he would 100% consider it. 

 

Oh....     I have no doubt that he'd consider it.

 

But ultimately,  I think he'd reject the idea.     We are way too early in the process to trade up for one guy.

 

The analogy would be like Andrew Luck.       He can't skip steps.    

 

And neither can the Colts.     Skipping steps this early in the process is an invitation to trouble. 

 

Hey,  I could EASILY be wrong...    I'm just reading Ballard's Tea Leaves.    

[ColtStrong2013]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

No.     I would not do that trade.    I'm not trading two 2's for a first.    

 

The Colts are NOT one great player away.    We are many great players away.   We need ALL the picks we have and more.

 

Ask me that same question in 2020.   Maybe my answer will be different....

 

I'm not sure any team should have the mentality of being one player away. It's never a bad thing to add 4 top 50 picks versus 1 or 2... regardless of your roster shape. Depth and quality youth is what builds sustained champions.

[RealityIsLuck]

Only gonna be a yes from me in an extreme situation, say Roquan Smith or a Denzel Ward is still on the board. Both very unlikely. Another name I’d consider pulling the trigger for would be Marcus Davenport but i think the value at 17 might mot be good enough to trade up maybe a few picks later say 20-22. 

[Surge89]

Your biggest problem is that the prospects from pick 15 to pick 64 are all of comparable talent.  The difference in talent from the middle of the first and the end of the second is going to be pretty much negligible this year.  That is why it's a good year to have plenty of 2nd round picks. 

[Luck 4 president]

If any of the top 10 guys besides the QBs fall then yes. I’d also do it for vita Vea 

[Track Guy]

I would say the Seahawks at 18 would be really receptive to that deal because after 18 their next pick is like #120. 

 

It wouldn't be popular but depending on what we did with our first pick I'd be cool with either Maurice Hurst or Isaiah Wynn. 

[PowerballBlue]

I don't get the Vita Vea love.  Fatties are not a key part of most 4-3s.  We let Hankins go, and you want to trade up for a guy with big bust pontential to compete with Al Woods?  I'd only trade up for an OL if the Colts think all the good ones will be gone before our 2nd round picks.  Guys like Hernandez, Price, or Wynn.  For some reason I just don't trust McGlinchy.

[stitches]

I won't say no way, but the players I would trade up for are very few. If one of the players in my top tier are there I will have to at least think about it. (That is Chubb, Nelson, Minkah(if you think he can play CB), Roquan and Edmunds).