Thoughts on Tremaine Edmunds??

[Str8himalaya]

I have started to look at the ILB prospects in the draft and this guy has me intrigued. He's 6'5" and 240-250lbs. Supposedly he will run a very good 40 time (4.5-4.6) and his tape is pretty decent. With our need at LB he could be a great piece to add to the mix. After it's all said and done, I bet he's a top 15-20 prospect. I would not be completely opposed to trading down for a really good deal into the teens and drafting this guy. He has a lot of tools, has good range, and plays pretty well chasing or straight up against blocking in his face. One area of concern (from my perspective) is he tends to guess against option offenses and that is big time boom or bust. Thoughts?

[DaColts85]

2 minutes ago, Str8himalaya said:

I have started to look at the ILB prospects in the draft and this guy has me intrigued. He's 6'5" and 240-250lbs. Supposedly he will run a very good 40 time (4.5-4.6) and his tape is pretty decent. With our need at LB he could be a great piece to add to the mix. After it's all said and done, I bet he's a top 15-20 prospect. I would not be completely opposed to trading down for a really good deal into the teens and drafting this guy. He has a lot of tools, has good range, and plays pretty well chasing or straight up against blocking in his face. One area of concern (from my perspective) is he tends to guess against option offenses and that is big time boom or bust. Thoughts?

I would love to get him as he is a solid LB prospect.  I just do not see any trade partner for this to work.  If somehow we do trade with the Bills, then maybe you can package something to get back into the 9-13 range where I believe him and Smith will be taken.  Just to hard to see a team wanting to move up to our spot in that range.  We would for sure be reaching if we got him in the top 5 or 6 picks imo.  But, I have been wrong before.

 

I will say in the NFL he will see the option rarely versus the commonality in college.  This is also something that he will be coached on to get better.  Every rookie has one or more areas they need to improve and get coached on.

[Surge89]

37 minutes ago, Str8himalaya said:

I have started to look at the ILB prospects in the draft and this guy has me intrigued. He's 6'5" and 240-250lbs. Supposedly he will run a very good 40 time (4.5-4.6) and his tape is pretty decent. With our need at LB he could be a great piece to add to the mix. After it's all said and done, I bet he's a top 15-20 prospect. I would not be completely opposed to trading down for a really good deal into the teens and drafting this guy. He has a lot of tools, has good range, and plays pretty well chasing or straight up against blocking in his face. One area of concern (from my perspective) is he tends to guess against option offenses and that is big time boom or bust. Thoughts?

 

You can thank stitches for getting me on his bandwagon some time back.  I absolutely love this kid. Literally everything you want in a linebacker with the size of a lineman and the speed of a corner.  He's better than Smith and Barkley imo.  He's a top 20 prospect for sure.

 

Fyi I could care less if he guesses wrong ever once and a while against option offenses... who runs option predominantly in the NFL anyway?  And what I'm more concerned is his instinct and decisiveness.   Which both are incredible. 

[TrueBlue12]

He is moving up boards quickly and has some scouts drooling.

[BlueShoe]

40 minutes ago, Str8himalaya said:

I have started to look at the ILB prospects in the draft and this guy has me intrigued. He's 6'5" and 240-250lbs. Supposedly he will run a very good 40 time (4.5-4.6) and his tape is pretty decent. With our need at LB he could be a great piece to add to the mix. After it's all said and done, I bet he's a top 15-20 prospect. I would not be completely opposed to trading down for a really good deal into the teens and drafting this guy. He has a lot of tools, has good range, and plays pretty well chasing or straight up against blocking in his face. One area of concern (from my perspective) is he tends to guess against option offenses and that is big time boom or bust. Thoughts?

 

I think he could come off the board to the Raiders. He is a physical freak and the Raiders still to this day,  like to draft those rare traits of combined physicality and speed. The Raiders have a need inside and he fits the bill perfectly for them. Probably in 9 out of 10 of my mocks, I will have Tremaine Edmunds going to the Raiders at #9 or #10 (whatever the coin flip tells us).

 

I think Davenport is also on the Raiders radar, so it might depend on Davenport still being on the board when the Raiders pick.

 

Miami is a possibility.

 

Cincinnati should take an offensive tackle, but they could take him. 

 

Washington could be in play. They have a quarterback now. 

 

The Chargers at #17 is another good fit, Although, I think Roquan Smith fits the needs of Gus Bradley's defense a little better. 

 

He would have to slide past 5 teams with a need, and also get skipped on the BPA to make it past No. 17 overall. 

[Gigc]

He's freakin physically imposing; big, strong, quick and fast. Doesn't look instinctive. Gets fooled. But he's a stud physically.

[NewColtsFan]

As we stand today....

 

It looks like Edmunds is a likely top-10 player...

 

This could change..  but his stock is rising...

 

The one thing I find interesting is that there does not appear to be a consensus yet on whether Edmunds best position is inside or outside?   You don't often find that...

 

 

 

[MPStack]

I like Edmunds but just not enough at this point to pass on Chubb. The Colts need pass rushers and Chubb fits what the Colts are going to in the 4-3. Still to early with the combine yet to start. 

[Defjamz26]

5 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

As we stand today....

 

It looks like Edmunds is a likely top-10 player...

 

This could change..  but his stock is rising...

 

The one thing I find interesting is that there does not appear to be a consensus yet on whether Edmunds best position is inside or outside?   You don't often find that...

 

 

 

I’ve heard that people think he can play any LB position, including outside in a 3-4.  

[Surge89]

5 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

As we stand today....

 

It looks like Edmunds is a likely top-10 player...

 

This could change..  but his stock is rising...

 

The one thing I find interesting is that there does not appear to be a consensus yet on whether Edmunds best position is inside or outside?   You don't often find that...

 

 

 

 

I'd rather have him inside. His length and height is so valuable in the middle of the field. Plus as an edge rusher you put him against the bigger guys while he's trying to bend I'm not sure if his body can take a full season of that. At ILB he can use his strength more and play up where he has constant advantage. 

 

[IndyScribe]

I wouldn't draft him with the third pick.

[NewColtsFan]

4 minutes ago, IndyScribe said:

I wouldn't draft him with the third round pick.

 

I assume you meant the third OVERALL pick?

 

[IndyScribe]

7 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I assume you meant the third OVERALL pick?

 

Oops, yeah.

[ty4atd]

With a trade down I think he might be my favourite pick for us in the draft. I think he's already the best LB in the draft and will be only 20 when the season starts. He's a crazy athlete who can cover already get him in a NFL conditioning program and a good D coach like Eberflus and he has the potential to be the best LB in the league and leader of our D for a decade.

[Dark Superman]

A lot of people seem high on him, but not third overall. Second round definitely!

[NewColtsFan]

2 minutes ago, King! said:

A lot of people seem high on him, but not third overall. Second round definitely!

 

Second round?!?

 

Edmunds is not only going in the first round,  he's likely a top-10 player.

 

Where are you reading/hearing second round?

 

[Maniac]

5 minutes ago, King! said:

A lot of people seem high on him, but not third overall. Second round definitely!

 

What if we were to trade to say, the Arizona pick at #15?

 

I think he'd be an OK pick up there.

 

Granted, I really hope we don't even consider trading down that far.

[krunk]

I'd take Edmunds top ten.   Tha'ts another Urlacher right there

[ty4atd]

If we trade down to 15 and he's still there I'd be all over it. I think he has the upside to be as good as any player in this class on D, you can play him at any LB spot and he could match up with TEs that have abused the Colts for years. 

[SuperJoe33]

As a football coach if you think your guy isn't reading the option and is only guessing which way to go then he's probably not reading run or pass either. That's the one thing that will stop the option if everybody reads their keys and does their job. The issue is coaches that believe in the option believe you can't go 3 plays without making a mistake. And there's no way you could do it every possession.

 

With that said the guy looks like a great addition at linebacker's position. But at the right price. He's not worthy of number 3 but I don't see him dropping out of the 1st round.

[Defjamz26]

I wouldn't take him at 3. However, I think a guy that can do the same things he can do is Leighton Vander-Esch, from Boise State. Just as big, can play in coverage, goes sideline to sideline, and has the instincts in the run game. We could get him round 2.

[waka waka]

3 hours ago, krunk said:

I'd take Edmunds top ten.   Tha'ts another Urlacher right there

He had a great college career but I think he's going to be a better pro in the right system. He should shoot up the boards during the combine. He's got some nastiness to him as well didnt see a lot of that from Urlacher in college. If he's out Mike in a Tampa two look he could give QB fits trying to throw over him.

[MFT5]

would like to press my luck & trade dwn a few spots and take him, 

 

... Edmunds’ a God, Tree Man

[Luck 4 president]

I don’t think he’s a top 10 pick, although I’d love to have him if we were picking in the teens or later. Just my opinion. 

[BleedBlu8792]

Easily a top-10 pick. Can play every LB spot at a high level, and as I've mentioned before, he has one of the 4 highest grades among all draftees. The other 3 with him are Nelson, Barkley, and Chubb. If we don't take Chubb at 3, and do end up trading back within the top-10, Edmunds would be damn near impossible to say no to. 

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

12 hours ago, Defjamz26 said:

I wouldn't take him at 3. However, I think a guy that can do the same things he can do is Leighton Vander-Esch, from Boise State. Just as big, can play in coverage, goes sideline to sideline, and has the instincts in the run game. We could get him round 2.

This is correct this guy can play!!

[LJpalmbeacher2]

On 2/1/2018 at 12:41 PM, Str8himalaya said:

I have started to look at the ILB prospects in the draft and this guy has me intrigued. He's 6'5" and 240-250lbs. Supposedly he will run a very good 40 time (4.5-4.6) and his tape is pretty decent. With our need at LB he could be a great piece to add to the mix. After it's all said and done, I bet he's a top 15-20 prospect. I would not be completely opposed to trading down for a really good deal into the teens and drafting this guy. He has a lot of tools, has good range, and plays pretty well chasing or straight up against blocking in his face. One area of concern (from my perspective) is he tends to guess against option offenses and that is big time boom or bust. Thoughts?

By trading down to get him we will be missing out on a 'Blue Chip' prospect. Do you think he's worth missing out on a Barkley, Chubb etc.. type of player? 

 

Reason I ask is I haven't done much research yet and don't know about him.

[Str8himalaya]

29 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

By trading down to get him we will be missing out on a 'Blue Chip' prospect. Do you think he's worth missing out on a Barkley, Chubb etc.. type of player? 

 

Reason I ask is I haven't done much research yet and don't know about him.

If you're asking if I'm willing to go straight up Chubb vs. Edmunds, then at this point, no, I'm not. Mostly because of position weight and I think Chubb is an elite prospect (I do believe Edmunds is borderline elite, even with him playing ILB). However, my point would be that would I take Edmunds, a 2018 second rounder and a 2019 1st rounder over Chubb? Depending on the team we trade with, I would be very interested in that trade. There is no gaurantee anyone is a can't miss (Barkley and Nelson are probably as close as it gets). It's all about value at the end of the day and how many shots you get at hitting on a prospect. We are not to a place where we need one player to fix our issues, so I will take a little drop off, still get a very good player at a position of need, and have a few chances in the 2nd (2018) and 1st (2019) to hit on players. I will reserve complete judgement until I see the testing at the combine and watch some more film, but Edmunds has some very intriguing athletic traits and can be a mainstay at multiple LB spots for us in the 4-3. 

[Surge89]

1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

By trading down to get him we will be missing out on a 'Blue Chip' prospect. Do you think he's worth missing out on a Barkley, Chubb etc.. type of player? 

 

Reason I ask is I haven't done much research yet and don't know about him.

 

Definitely. 

 

He's a 3 down player who isn't scheme dependant.