Pats/Denver thread - snow in forecast (merge)

[-JJ-]

Wow they're driving!

lol- bullet into the wind.

shot arms do wonders ;)

[JerodMayo51]

Touchdown with 33 seconds left!!

 

Brady is so clutch!  They get the ball back at half time too!  YESS!!!!

[buffalo34]

So at this point do I just hope and pray the Patriots lose 1 game in January?

[buffalo34]

Patriots will get a TD anyway, why not just save the Broncos the pain of another play and uphold the TD anyway?

[MTC]

"Rules expert" Mike Carey.

 

[JerodMayo51]

lol- bullet into the wind.

shot arms do wonders ;)

 

Yea im not sure where this notion that Brady doesn't have a strong arm came from.. He is putting lasers all over the field, INTO the wind right on the numbers of his receivers.  Manning is throwing rainbows all over the field.. hes very accurate with those throws, but it allows the defense to react and make a play on the ball

[No 1 Manning Fan]

I expected the Denver Offense to struggle a bit in this weather, but I didn't think the defense would get manhandled like this.

[Moose Of Woe]

So at this point do I just hope and pray the Patriots lose 1 game in January?

Pretty much same as last year, yep lol.

 

Miami might do it, but they have to go in to Foxborough soooooo.....

[JerodMayo51]

nooo! another TD drop by a Pats receiver

[ColtsBlueFL]

Ward stopped that 1

[Moose Of Woe]

I expected the Denver Offense to struggle a bit in this weather, but I didn't think the defense would get manhandled like this.

Brady is a great QB, Gronk is the best TE in the game, and Denver couldn't even stop one man army Gates.

 

Any defense that lets one guy beat them like a drum is not THAT good. Denver deserves all the credit in the world for the run defense which is outstanding, but they can not cover for crap if the pass rush doesn't get there.

 

Tonight, the pass rush can't beat Brady's fortress and the results speak for themselves. I'm still not sure why they don't just bring the house instead of sitting back (and failing) to cover everyone. Sure, Brady can beat the blitz but if you make him uncomfortable with repeated pressure he becomes a different QB. It's not rocket science.

[JerodMayo51]

TOUCHDOWN!  Nobody puts Brady in a corner!

[ColtsBlueFL]

Not that 1.  TD

[LordHelpOurColts]

Man...the Broncos are getting blown out

[buffalo34]

Hey Broncos, you know the Patriots are going to pass in that situation, SO STOP THEM

 

So, at this point, also need to hope the Broncos win out and the Patriots lose 1 game, so the #1 seed goes to Denver.

[teganslaw]

The game isn't over, but Denver is going to have to get something going. Manning is off with his throws, and the team has no answer as to how to stop the Patriots.

[JerodMayo51]

2nd and 20 and you still leave a receiver WIDE OPEN

 

Let's also let Vereen stroll down the sidelines untouched and wide open while we're at it too.

 

He wasn't wide open, Brady threw a laser 25 yards down the field off of his back shoulder, right past the defender.  Manning would not have enough zip on his ball to make that play, especially into the wind.

[MTC]

My fantasy opponent has Edelman on the bench.

 

:36dancing:

[No 1 Manning Fan]

Brady is a great QB, Gronk is the best TE in the game, and Denver couldn't even stop one man army Gates.

Any defense that lets one guy beat them like a drum is not THAT good. Denver deserves all the credit in the world for the run defense which is outstanding, but they can not cover for crap if the pass rush doesn't get there.

Tonight, the pass rush can't beat Brady's fortress and the results speak for themselves. I'm still not sure why they don't just bring the house instead of sitting back (and failing) to cover everyone. Sure, Brady can beat the blitz but if you make him uncomfortable with repeated pressure he becomes a different QB. It's not rocket science.

That's the Jack Del Rio defense. Let the front four rush and never do anything risky or interesting.

[IcEWoLF]

The game isn't over, but Denver is going to have to get something going. Manning is off with his throws, and the team has no answer as to how to stop the Patriots.

 

We are receiving next half. If we score a TD then its going to make it really hard for the Broncos. Manning looks to be uncomfortable, especially that last sack from Ayers...once you get to him once or twice he will not be as comfortable passing from the pocket.

[Moose Of Woe]

The game isn't over, but Denver is going to have to get something going. Manning is off with his throws, and the team has no answer as to how to stop the Patriots.

The answer is to bring the house on defense, and abandon the run which is a waste of a down on offense.

 

John Fox, Del Rio, and possibly Peyton Manning are either too stubborn or foolish to realize it. Possibly both. The playcalling ultimately falls on Peyton on offense....he needs to realize against teams where the run JUST DOESN'T WORK that they need to STOP TRYING TO RUN! Exceptions being, maybe, a 1 or 2 yard gain needed for a first or TD.

 

If Peyton can't realize that, which we've seen many games Denver determined to run through a brick wall and failing, then he might not be as smart as he's credited to be. Denver is better at passing....by a mile.......so.....pass?

 

Also letting go a kicker who has been proven reliable to you was a horrendous move.  Denver's return game and coverage have been abysmal.

[Fx Stryker]

At this point you just expect the home team to win.

10-5 in favor to Brady. And 9-6 in home field of New England over Indy/Denver. They both have stole 1 away game from each other. Brady just has that extra away win from first game back in '01.

[Tsarquise]

My fantasy opponent has Edelman on the bench.

:36dancing:

Yeah i have Edelman on the bench too... First time I benched them in weeks... :/

It would be funny if you were my opponent.

[PrincetonTiger]

The Patriots have a mystique about them that causes teams to struggle against them

[jvan1973]

The Patriots have a mystique about them that causes teams to struggle against them

yeah, its called playing well and being well coached

[Moose Of Woe]

The Patriots have a mystique about them that causes teams to struggle against them

Balance. Coaching.

 

Nothing magic about it. It's called a good, well rounded football team with fantastic players and coaches mixed in.

 

 

Denver are no slouches, but their weaknesses (In order)

 

1: COACHING/Playcalling

2: Special teams

3: Run game (Or lack there of)

4: Passing defense

 

....are all very apparent. NE's weaknesses are a mediocre at best run game and run defense. That's it. Denver can't run anyway, and are great at stopping the run, so those more or less offset.

[JerodMayo51]

The Patriots have a mystique about them that causes teams to struggle against them

 

Its not a mystique, its because BB teaches disciplined football and really emphasizes not giving up the big play.  You force teams to have to make 7-10 successful plays and move the football up the field and earn a touchdown.

 

The more plays a team runs, the more chances they have to make a mistake.

[Fx Stryker]

Why do they keep talking about the wind? Flags on the goal posts weren't even moving.

[JerodMayo51]

Why do they talking about the wind? Flags on the goal posts weren't even moving.

 

There are random gusts of wind that have reached near 40 mph, but its not a constant wind.. I just stepped outside on my porch and it was pretty darn windy.

[buffalo34]

I think we all know that someone would be screaming LOL PEYTON CHOKER 3 RINGS had he thrown that tipped pick.....

[JerodMayo51]

Wow, a dropped ball by a receiver leads to an interception..  How many drops is that now for the Pats WRs?  At least 5...

[RockThatBlue]

Big interception there

[Moose Of Woe]

Wow, a dropped ball by a receiver leads to an interception..  How many drops is that now for the Pats WRs?  At least 5...

The Patriot receivers are playing better defense than Denver's DB's.

[Fx Stryker]

There are random gusts of wind that have reached near 40 mph, but its not a constant wind.. I just stepped outside on my porch and it was pretty darn windy.

I know there are occasional gusts, but Jim Nantz mentioned the Broncos are kicking with the wind, and the flags weren't even moving.

They weren't either on that drive.

[buffalo34]

Comeon Thomas, you HAVE to bring that in.

[Moose Of Woe]

At least Denver finally abandoned the run. Too bad it took them down by 20 to do it.

[JerodMayo51]

Only 3 minutes into the 2nd half.. if Denver gets a TD that interception could really change the momentum..

[Moose Of Woe]

Only 3 minutes into the 2nd half.. if Denver gets a TD that interception could really change the momentum..

Anything is possible, but the game seems fairly well in hand. I wouldn't count on Denver's defense to make many stops. Let alone the special teams to win the field position battle or make kicks. (Or John Fox and Del Rio to start being good coaches.)

 

Also looks like I gave Denver too much credit. There's another wasted down on a run for nothing.

[jvan1973]

perfect pass

[JerodMayo51]

Wow...

 

That ball had incredible arc on it... dropped it perfectly right into the bucket