Vonte Davis Great write up

[House]

You should be embarrassed that you think that any of you have embarrassed me.

no one here is embarrassing you. You're taking care of that without any extra assistance.

[Gavin]

Yes. The totality of his career says more than a couple of games.

Those stats are not of the totality of his career, Those stats are of this season, And the stats have clearly shown he has gotten much better(Film backs that up clearly if you know what your looking at)...Unless your saying a player cannot improve? Which I would assume that's not what your saying simply because that would be a ridiculous statement to make

[RockThatBlue]

right now he's injured, but when healthy he's a cut above Davis and you know it n

False.

[1yrdandacloudofdust]

Well, old Vontae is back

[peytonmanning18]

Vontae is getting worked tonight.

[Gavin]

Yep worked by a hall of fame receiver.

[thedude]

Yep worked by a hall of fame receiver.

Andre Johnson is a shell of his former self.

[UKCOLT17]

hahaha this thread and some of the comments

[thedude]

I will predict right now, that the same people who are saying Davis is the best CB in the game will be screaming about how terrible he is by week 10

[BProland85]

Well, old Vontae is back

No, its just that Fitzpatrick for whatever reason is playing out of his mind right now. Those passes are extremely hard to defend that he threw to Andre.

[Gavin]

Andre Johnson is a shell of his former self.

your talking about his 1407 yards just last year former self right?

[thedude]

Andre Johnson once was considered the best WR in the game. He's no longer in the discussion. I suspect you know that though.

That last play was a clear example of how he has slipped.

[Le Neon]

Another big turnover forced by the best cb in league history.

[thedude]

Actually, that wasn't a fumble. Johnson never had control of the ball. The officiating tonight has been inconsistent and quite questionable. Not the refs finest outing.

[thedude]

Should have been an offensive holding call there. They won't be using this game as an example of quality officiating.

[Le Neon]

And another. He's just a turnover machine.

[UKCOLT17]

Should have been an offensive holding call there. They won't be using this game as an example of quality officiating.

 

yeah u see the tackle holding there really bad by refs but was decent game in end

[thedude]

It didn't look like it was going to be a good game early, but it had its moments in the second half. Still, the officials looked as though they still have their head in the preseason. They were just awful. That crew won't be officiating a playoff game if they don't improve dramatically.

[peytonmanning18]

Houston used Vontae's aggressiveness against him by throwing a bunch of back shoulder fades.

[mattceinicram]

Vontae came down to Earth a little this game.  However, against AJ that's still pretty impressive

[Coltswarriors]

Vontae has been a stud all year and then he has the game he had tonight.

 

Ugh.

[AntonMcG]

Because you folks continue to show your a**. I'm amused by it. I'm especially amused by the people who now claim Davis is the very best CB in the NFL.. Before I started this, you guys had him as a top ten gut. I've gotten you people to now say he's the best of the best. By next week I'll have you outraged into calling him the greatest of all time.

 

, you really overestimate your impact. He is not the best CB in football, but he has been the top performer this year, and has a valid stake in the top-5 conversation. Your attempts to call him average are laughable, and prove how little you actually watch the game.

 

He is a problem with giving up pass interfence penalties, so he is not without flaws. But he is very very good.

[jvan1973]

Vontae has been a stud all year and then he has the game he had tonight.

Ugh.

He didn't have a terrible game The back shoulder catch by andre was surprisingly a perfect throw and andre will make that catch every time. The PI was tough, but i that's gonna happen from time to time.

[AntonMcG]

Actually, that wasn't a fumble. Johnson never had control of the ball. The officiating tonight has been inconsistent and quite questionable. Not the refs finest outing.

 

He did have control of the ball... Stop listening to Mike Carey and have an opinion of your own. He took two steps with the ball not moving from just under his shoulder, that is having control of the ball. Carey just did not want to correct himself.

[thedude]

He did have control of the ball... Stop listening to Mike Carey and have an opinion of your own.

Actually, he didn't have control, but you are allowed to think what you want. Who's Mike Carey? Never heard of the dude.

[AntonMcG]

Actually, he didn't have control, but you are allowed to think what you want. Who's Mike Carey? Never heard of the dude.

 

Where you at the game? Or did you watch it with the commentary off? Or did you watch it through an non-CBS broadcaster?

 

Of course he had control, two steps without the ball moving a bit.

[thedude]

Where you at the game? Or did you watch it with the commentary off? Or did you watch it through an non-CBS broadcaster?

 

Of course he had control, two steps without the ball moving a bit.

Like I said, you are allowed to think what you want.

[Gavin]

Where you at the game? Or did you watch it with the commentary off? Or did you watch it through an non-CBS broadcaster?

 

Of course he had control, two steps without the ball moving a bit.

He actually even took 3 steps without the ball moving

[Le Neon]

Never heard of thedude.

Actually, neither has he. I'm jealous.

[thedude]

Wow. Tricky. I'm jealous.

[jvan1973]

Andre Johnson once was considered the best WR in the game. He's no longer in the discussion. I suspect you know that though.

That last play was a clear example of how he has slipped.

fitzpatrick fumbling was an example of how AJ has slipped?

[thedude]

fitzpatrick fumbling was an example of how AJ has slipped?

You really think Andre Johnson is as good as he was a couple years ago? Not too long ago, he was the best receiver in the NFL. He's not even in the discussion now.

[jvan1973]

You really think Andre Johnson is as good as he was a couple years ago? Not too long ago, he was the best receiver in the NFL. He's not even in the discussion now.

First of all at no.point was he ever the best in the nfl. Top five sure. He is still very good and gets open much like Reggie.

Second, what does any of that have to do with the last play?

[Gavin]

You really think Andre Johnson is as good as he was a couple years ago? Not too long ago, he was the best receiver in the NFL. He's not even in the discussion now.

Are you really seriously trying say a WR who just came off a year where he finished 7th in the league in receiving yards and was 6th in the league in catches of 20+ yards while having Case Keenum chuck him the ball for 8 games is not in the discussion? I mean seriously if your going with crazy claims then at least back them up with some substance

[thedude]

I'm saying Andre Johnson is not nearly the receiver he was a few seasons ago. You know, back when he was considered the very best in the NFL. Do you think he's still in the discussion as the best WR in the NFL.

[jvan1973]

I'm saying Andre Johnson is not nearly the receiver he was a few seasons ago. You know, back when he was considered the very best in the NFL. Do you think he's still in the discussion as the best WR in the NFL.

he was never considered the very best.

[Gavin]

I'm saying Andre Johnson is not nearly the receiver he was a few seasons ago. You know, back when he was considered the very best in the NFL. Do you think he's still in the discussion as the best WR in the NFL.

If by "best in the NFL" you mean capable of leading the NFL in receiving yards then yes of course, Will he? Not as long as Fitzpatrick is chuckin him the ball, But he is absolutely in the discussion

[dw49]

I will predict right now, that the same people who are saying Davis is the best CB in the game will be screaming about how terrible he is by week 10

 

 

There was nothing wrong with Davis' coverage in that game. It was not extraordinary but he wasn't getting burned badly either. Maybe you haven't noticed but the NFL game has changed. Now if a QB makes a good throw , there's a good chance that there will be a completion. Talib gets beat , Sherman gets beat , Perterson gets beat, Revis can't play zone. I mean who are these great QB's you see that makes V Davis "average." Plus he's better than any of those players when supporting the run. Best CB in football ? Naa.... but closer to that than being an average one.

[thedude]

Ok, now that the game is in the rear view *, people are going back to the claim that Davis is a top rate CB.

[thedude]

If by "best in the NFL" you mean capable of leading the NFL in receiving yards then yes of course, Will he? Not as long as Fitzpatrick is chuckin him the ball, But he is absolutely in the discussion

Do you really need to have the term "best in the NFL" explained to you? Which receiver is considered the best in the NFL right now and has been for a few years? It's really not all that complicated.

Like Insaid, a few years ago, Andre Johnson was considered the best WR in the NFL. Now, no.