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I agree that Peyton's "happy feet" was a matter of his technique and served a purpose for him. Nevertheless, I still never liked it and it always made me somewhat nervous. The fact that Luck didn't do this was also something that I noticed and I even commented to a couple of Colts fan friends of mine about it during the game. We all agreed that it was a refreshing change.

between peyton's bouncing around and the pained look on his face as he throws, luck makes it look easy. he makes it look like he isn't even trying, which i see as a sign of greatness

i'm not questioning manning's technique, but luck's confident calmness sure does look refreshing

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I know it's preseason game one but wow.. Luck is phenominal. Effortless. No more happy feet. I'm Impressed and every pass on the money. wow.. future looks brighter than bright

There was nothing wrong with Peyton's happy feet. HoF QBs don't get there with bad footwork. It's a common misconception that his tap dancing was a sign of trouble.

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If the ladies can put up with the creepy comments about the Cheerleaders, I expect the men can put up with this.

Actually I make no such comments - creepy or otherwise. I couldn't care less about my wife's rare comments - it's all in good fun - but the fact is that if a porno scene spontaneously broke out on the tv while my wife was in the room, it would just make me uncomfortable. I'd either pretend it wasn't happening (not saying a word, and not even changing the expression on my face) or make some pained noises and change the channel. Cheerleaders? Maybe in high school it's kind of cute, and in college it's part of the "school spirit" that only students can bring, but on the pro level in my opinion it's one of the most absurd wastes of time, money, and space in the history of "civilization". And even ignoring being respectful to my wife, the VAST majority of them do absolutely nothing for me - just a bizarre sideshow comprised of wannabe something or others. I hate to think what it is they wannabe.

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Couldn't agree more. The O-line seemed to get a little better as they went on. Yes, they need more time together but I guess people are going to find flaws in anything. Luck was absolutely awesome. Did not get rattled at all and every pass was perfect. The passes that were not completed were all on the recievers. The passes were perfect and his recievers let him down.

Wrong, he over threw Reitz by quite a bit. That being said no one is perfect and I will take near perfect any day of the week :)

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Collins sucked from the onset with the Colts. Therefore he merited no consideration or expectation from me. Peyton was some what of a tease in that he was great up until it mattered the most and then he would more times than not come up short. So because I had greater expectations of Peyton (with other Colts fans proclaiming him to be the GOAT or whatever) with it came a greater possibility of a let down. In critical moments of big games (and by big I mean post-season games), I must honestly say that I remember being nervous as heck that Peyton would throw an interception at a crucial moment. Real talk bro. Seeing the "happy feet" just made him appear jittery to me and contributed to my nervousness doing those moments. I realize one did not necessarily have anything to do with the other, but the combination of seeing those gut wrenching interceptions and Peyton's bouncing feet just had the effect of making me more nervous than calm whenever the chips were really down. I still see Peyton as a legend but not as infallible as some revisionists want to make him out to be. In the regular season at crunch time, he was MONEY but in the post-season...with the exception of that faithful AFC Championship game in 06...not as much.

Like I acknowledged, I believe the foot movement was technique based and Peyton had sound reasons for doing it. Granted...it still made this Colts fan nervous to see it. What can I say MAC...sue me. :P

I know that Collins was lousy, that was the entire reason for mentioning him. You're basing your entire "analysis" off of feet. I was demonstrating how meaningless that is.

You can relax, I'm not going to sue you, :) but I should point out that the reason I responded is because this entire conversation sounds like something I might have had in 2004 with one of my Eagles fan co-workers whose entire knowledge of Peyton came from watching him lose to New England in the playoffs. That's when this line of thinking was the raging argument by those who equated his moving his feet with the fact that Belichicks LBs got after him and forced some poor decisions. One had nothing to do with the other, and even non-Colts fan have seen Peyton do amazing things a time or twenty in the playoffs since then.

The point is that this entire argument is a code phrase for "cracks under pressure", which is frankly both absurd and insulting.

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Slow your roll player...

The line is as bad as we thought it could be. Lots of work to be done there if Luck is going to have success.

Actually the line played pretty good. We rushed for over 100 yards and had over 400 yards of offense..........oh and 38 points.

No line wins the battle every single play or even every drive. One sack I believe they gave up?

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I know it's preseason game one but wow.. Luck is phenominal. Effortless. No more happy feet. I'm Impressed and every pass on the money. wow.. future looks brighter than bright

I believe his last name is Manning. In case you are unfamiliar with him, here are his accolades:

Major high school awards

  • 1992, 1993 Louisiana Class 2A MVP[197]
  • 1993 Gatorade Circle of Champions Award[197]
  • 1993 Atlanta TD Club's Bobby Dodd Award[197]
  • 1993 New Orleans Quarterback Club Player of the Year[197]
  • 1993 Columbus, Ohio Touchdown Club Offensive Player of the Year[197]
  • 1993 Gatorade High School Player of the Year (National)[198]

College awards

NFL awards

  • NFL MVP (2003 (shared with Steve McNair), 2004, 2008, 2009)[1]
  • Best NFL Player ESPY Award(2004,[30] 2005[202])
  • 11× Pro Bowl (1999–2000, 2002–2010)[37]
  • 5× First-team All-Pro (2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009)[76][93][100]
  • 3× Second-team All-Pro (1999, 2000, 2006)[49][57][113]
  • 2× Bert Bell Award (2003, 2004)[203]
  • AFC Offensive Player of the Year Awards (1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009)
  • 1998 NFL All-Rookie First Team[37]
  • 2004 AFC Offensive Player of the Year[75]
  • 2004 Fedex Express Player of the Year[204]
  • 2005 Best Record-Breaking Performance ESPY Award[202]
  • 2005 Walter Payton Man of the Year Award[203]
  • 2005 Byron “Whizzer” White Humanitarian Award[37]
  • 2005 Pro Bowl MVP[75]
  • 2007 Super Bowl MVP[110]
  • 2007 Best Championship Performance ESPY Award[112]

Additionally, Manning has been named the AFC Offensive Player of the Month four times (9/2003, 11/2004, 10/2006, 9/2009) and Offensive Player of the Week on 21 occasions (20 AFC, 1 NFL/playoff).[36]

College records

Tennessee Volunteers records

  • Most passing attempts (career): 1,381[6]
  • Most passing attempts (season): 477 (1997)[6]
  • Most passing attempts (game): 65 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)[6]
  • Most completions (career): 863[6]
  • Most completions (game): 37 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)[6]
  • Most consecutive completions (game): 12 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)[7]
  • Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%[7]
  • Highest completion percentage (season): 64.2% (1995)[7]
  • Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%[7]
  • Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)[7]
  • Most consecutive passes without an interception (season): 132[7]
  • Most passing yards (season): 3,819 (1997)[6]
  • Most passing yards (career): 11,201[6]
  • Most passing yards (game): 508 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)[6]

  • Most offensive yards (career): 11,020[7]
  • Most 500+ passing yard games (career): 1[7]
  • Most 400+ passing yard games (career): 3[7]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18[7]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 9 (1997)[7]
  • Most consecutive 300+ passing yard games: 7[7]
  • Most 200+ passing yard games (career): 30[7]
  • Most wins as starting quarterback (career): 39[6]
  • Most touchdown passes (career): 89[7]
  • Most touchdown passes (game): 5 (08/30/97 vs. Texas Tech, 11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)[7]
  • Most touchdowns (career): 101[7]
  • Most offensive plays (career): 1,534[7]
  • Most offensive plays (season): 538 (1997)[7]
  • Most offensive plays (game): 70 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)[6]

SEC records

  • Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)[205]
  • Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%[7]
  • Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%[7]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18[7]

NFL records

Manning holds a number of individual career records:

Regular season

  • Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 11 (1999–2004, 2006–2010)[206]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 6 (1999–2004; tied with Drew Brees)[2]
  • Most games with 40+ pass attempts in a season: 10 (2010)[207]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 20 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010) [37]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[206]
  • Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[90]
  • Most consecutive games started to open a career: 208 [37][208]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)[209]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 7–11, 2004)[210]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, season: 6 (2004; tied with 1984 Marino)[210]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, career: 24 (includes 2 playoff games; tied with Brett Favre)[211]
  • Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 7 (includes 1 playoff game)[212]
  • Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 4 (tied with Tom Brady)
  • One of only seven QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes in two games (tied with Sammy Baugh, Y.A. Tittle, Daryle Lamonica, Tom Brady, Charley Johnson and George Blanda)[213]
  • One of only two QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions in two games (tied with Tom Brady)
  • Most regular games with at least 300 passing yards: 63 (tied with Dan Marino)
  • Most regular and postseason games with at least 300 passing yards: 71
  • Most games with at least 400 yards passing and no interceptions: 4
  • Most career touchdown passes in Thursday games: 25[214]
  • Most touchdown passes on a Thursday game: 6 (tied with Bob Griese)
  • Largest career TD-INT differential: 201
  • Highest career passing TDs/game average (min. 150 TD passes): 1.918 TDs/game[37]
  • Second-Highest career passing yards/game average: 263.6 (Drew Brees, 263.7) * Second-Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 22.5 (Drew Brees, 23.4) note:(for the purpose of being rested for the postseason, Manning was taken out early in 7 games; the last 2 games of 2009 and 2005, and the season finale in seasons 2008, 2007, 2004, thus diminishing his averages)
  • Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008) [37]
  • Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts): 66[215]
  • Most consecutive regular season wins as a starter: 23 (2008–2009)
  • Most seasons with 10+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 11 (1999–2000, 2002–2010)
  • Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 8 (1999, 2003–2009)
  • Only QB with at least 12 wins as a starter in 7 consecutive seasons (2003–2009)[216]
  • Only QB with nine straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (2002–2010)[37]
  • Only QB to lead five consecutive 4th quarter comeback wins (games 7–11, 2009)[217]
  • Most fourth quarter comeback wins in one season: 7 (2009)[218]
  • First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week)[219]
  • Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular season only: 115 (2000s)[220]
  • Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular & postseason: 124 (2000s)
  • Most AP NFL MVP Awards: 4 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009)[1]
  • Most Touchdown Passes in a decade: 314 (2000–2009)
  • Most Passing Yards in a decade: 42,254 (2000–2009)
  • Most Completions in a decade: 3,575 (2000–2009)

Playoff records

  • Most 300+ yard passing games: 8 [221]
  • Most yards passing, 1st half of game: 360 vs. Denver Broncos, 1/9/05[222]
  • Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England[223]
  • One of only four QBs to post a perfect 158.3 passer rating in a game (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)[224]
  • Most games with 20+ completions: 14[225] (surpassed by Tom Brady in 2011)
  • Most games with 30+ completions: 4[226] (surpassed by Drew Brees in 2011)
  • Most games with 30+ attempts: 17[227]
  • Most games with 40+ attempts: 8[228] (tied by Tom Brady in 2011)
  • Most completions and attempts in a single postseason: 97/153 (2006)[229]
  • One of only 2 quarterbacks to complete 80% of his passes in two playoff games (tied with Kurt Warner)[230]
  • Most consecutive postseasons with at least one start: 9 (2002–2010)

Rookie records

  • Most touchdown passes: 26[210]
  • Most consecutive games with a touchdown pass (games 4–16): 13[231]
  • Most games with at least one touchdown pass: 15 [37]
  • Most games with 300+ yards passing: 4 [37]

With Marvin Harrison

Manning and former Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison hold a number of QB-WR tandem records:

  • Most completions/receptions (career): 953[232]
  • Most passing/receiving yards (career): 12,756[232]
  • Most passing/receiving touchdowns (career): 112[37][232]
  • Most completions/receptions in a season, QB-to-WR duo: 143 (2002)
  • Most passing/receiving yards in a season, QB-to-WR duo: 1,722 (2002)

Pro Bowl records

  • Most Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 11 (tied with Brett Favre)[233]
  • Most consecutive Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 9 (during the 2002–2010 seasons)
  • Most passing attempts (career): 150[101]
  • Most passing attempts (game): 41 (2004)[234]
  • Most completions (career): 92[101]
  • Most completions (game): 22 (2004)[234]
  • Most passing yards (career): 1,278[101]
  • Most passing yards (game): 342 (2004)[234]
  • Most passing touchdowns (career): 13[101]

Colts franchise records

  • Most passing attempts (career): 7,210[36]
  • Most passing attempts (season): 679 (2010)[36]
  • Most passing attempts (rookie season): 575 (1998)[36]
  • Most 40+ passing attempt games (career): 56[36]
  • Most completions (career): 4,682[36]
  • Most completions (season): 450 (2010)[36]
  • Most completions (rookie season): 326 (1998)[36]
  • Most completions (game): 40 (09/12/10 at Houston)[36]
  • Most completions (rookie game): 30 (11/01/98 vs. New England)[36]
  • Most consecutive completions: 23 (12/14/08-12/18/08 vs. Detroit/Jacksonville)[37]
  • Most games with 20+ completions (career): 140[36]
  • Most consecutive games with 20+ completions: 14 (games 1–14, 2010)[36]
  • Most games with 30+ completions (career): 23[235]
  • Highest completion percentage (career): 64.9%[36]
  • Highest completion percentage (season): 68.8% (2009)[36]
  • Highest completion percentage (rookie season): 56.7%[36]
  • Highest completion percentage (game): 87.5% (14/16 for 95 yards, 12/30/07 vs. Tennessee)[37]
  • Most passing yards (career): 54,828[236]
  • Most passing yards (season): 4,700 (2010)[36]
  • Most passing yards (rookie season): 3,739[36]
  • Most passing yards (game): 472 (10/31/04 vs. Kansas City)[36]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 63[36]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 9 (2009)[36]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (rookie season): 4[36]
  • Most consecutive passing 300+ yard games: 5 (games 1–5 in 2009)[36]
  • Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards : 11 (1999–2004, 2006–2010)[206]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards (1999–2004): 6[2]
  • Most touchdown passes (career): 399[237]
  • Most touchdown passes (season): 49 (2004)[36]
  • Most touchdown passes (rookie season): 26[36]

  • Most touchdown passes (game): 6 (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans and 11/25/04 vs. Detroit)[36]
  • Most touchdown passes (rookie game): 3 (4 times; tied with Johnny Unitas and Jeff George)[36]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (career): 22[238]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6[210]
  • Most games with at least 3 touchdown passes (career): 64[36]
  • Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (season): 15 (5 times)[36]
  • Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 15 (1998)[36]
  • Most consecutive uninterrupted games with at least 1 touchdown pass: 27
  • Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes (games 7–11, 2004): 5 (2004)[210]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 3 touchdown passes: 8 (games 5–12, 2004)[239]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)[36]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 13 (games 4–16)[36]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[206]
  • Highest touchdown percentage (career): 5.66%[36]
  • Highest touchdown percentage (season): 9.86% (2004)[36]
  • Highest touchdown percentage (game): 24.00% (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans)[36]
  • Most interceptions thrown (game): 6 (11/11/07 vs. San Diego)[36]
  • Most interceptions thrown (season): 28 (1998)[36]
  • Highest passer rating (career): 94.9[36]
  • Second highest passer rating (season): 121.1 (2004)[36]
  • Most games with a perfect passer rating (career): 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[90]
  • Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback: 208 (current)[240]
  • Most games played, franchise history: 208
  • Most consecutive games started, franchise history: 208 (current)[240]
  • Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (career): 35 (includes one playoff game) [36]
  • Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (season): 7 (2009) [36]
  • Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (career): 46 (includes one playoff game) [36]
  • Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (season): 7 (1999, 2008, 2009

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Actually the line played pretty good. We rushed for over 100 yards and had over 400 yards of offense..........oh and 38 points.

No line wins the battle every single play or even every drive. One sack I believe they gave up?

You are more correct than I am, I admit it. The line started out horrible on the second possession but got better. The Rams strength is on their D-line, so it was a decent test. There were plays where our guys were being tossed around like rag dolls, but there were some where they held their own. It's definitely a work in progress. I'm encouraged that some of our backups look good too.

The yards and points are meaningless after the first units come out for each team. In past years when we were good we'd routinely lose games to lesser teams in the preseason. Forget those stats.

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I know that Collins was lousy, that was the entire reason for mentioning him. You're basing your entire "analysis" off of feet. I was demonstrating how meaningless that is.

You can relax, I'm not going to sue you, :) but I should point out that the reason I responded is because this entire conversation sounds like something I might have had in 2004 with one of my Eagles fan co-workers whose entire knowledge of Peyton came from watching him lose to New England in the playoffs. That's when this line of thinking was the raging argument by those who equated his moving his feet with the fact that Belichicks LBs got after him and forced some poor decisions. One had nothing to do with the other, and even non-Colts fan have seen Peyton do amazing things a time or twenty in the playoffs since then.

The point is that this entire argument is a code phrase for "cracks under pressure", which is frankly both absurd and insulting.

Don't mean to disparage Peyton at all. As I said he is a legend. At the same time I won't act like he was infallible either. He has cracked before as others have. He is human after all. But that doesn't necessarily define him as a choker. The totality of his career here was greatness and I acknowledge that he had much success with us.

My feelings of nervousness over Peyton's happy feet have more to do with my quirks than it does with any flaw in Peyton himself. It's the mind tripping that goes on in my head when watching nervously as a Colts season hangs in the balance. Rationally or not the constant figeting did little to alleviate my already present feelings of nervousness. I like that with Luck I won't have to worry about any of that but I am not saying that this means that he is or will be better than Manning.

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I believe his last name is Manning. In case you are unfamiliar with him, here are his accolades:

Major high school awards

  • 1992, 1993 Louisiana Class 2A MVP[197]
  • 1993 Gatorade Circle of Champions Award[197]
  • 1993 Atlanta TD Club's Bobby Dodd Award[197]
  • 1993 New Orleans Quarterback Club Player of the Year[197]
  • 1993 Columbus, Ohio Touchdown Club Offensive Player of the Year[197]
  • 1993 Gatorade High School Player of the Year (National)[198]

College awards

NFL awards

  • NFL MVP (2003 (shared with Steve McNair), 2004, 2008, 2009)[1]
  • Best NFL Player ESPY Award(2004,[30] 2005[202])
  • 11× Pro Bowl (1999–2000, 2002–2010)[37]
  • 5× First-team All-Pro (2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009)[76][93][100]
  • 3× Second-team All-Pro (1999, 2000, 2006)[49][57][113]
  • 2× Bert Bell Award (2003, 2004)[203]
  • AFC Offensive Player of the Year Awards (1999, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2008, 2009)
  • 1998 NFL All-Rookie First Team[37]
  • 2004 AFC Offensive Player of the Year[75]
  • 2004 Fedex Express Player of the Year[204]
  • 2005 Best Record-Breaking Performance ESPY Award[202]
  • 2005 Walter Payton Man of the Year Award[203]
  • 2005 Byron “Whizzer” White Humanitarian Award[37]
  • 2005 Pro Bowl MVP[75]
  • 2007 Super Bowl MVP[110]
  • 2007 Best Championship Performance ESPY Award[112]

Additionally, Manning has been named the AFC Offensive Player of the Month four times (9/2003, 11/2004, 10/2006, 9/2009) and Offensive Player of the Week on 21 occasions (20 AFC, 1 NFL/playoff).[36]

College records

Tennessee Volunteers records

  • Most passing attempts (career): 1,381[6]
  • Most passing attempts (season): 477 (1997)[6]
  • Most passing attempts (game): 65 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)[6]
  • Most completions (career): 863[6]
  • Most completions (game): 37 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)[6]
  • Most consecutive completions (game): 12 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)[7]
  • Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%[7]
  • Highest completion percentage (season): 64.2% (1995)[7]
  • Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%[7]
  • Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)[7]
  • Most consecutive passes without an interception (season): 132[7]
  • Most passing yards (season): 3,819 (1997)[6]
  • Most passing yards (career): 11,201[6]
  • Most passing yards (game): 508 (11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)[6]

  • Most offensive yards (career): 11,020[7]
  • Most 500+ passing yard games (career): 1[7]
  • Most 400+ passing yard games (career): 3[7]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18[7]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 9 (1997)[7]
  • Most consecutive 300+ passing yard games: 7[7]
  • Most 200+ passing yard games (career): 30[7]
  • Most wins as starting quarterback (career): 39[6]
  • Most touchdown passes (career): 89[7]
  • Most touchdown passes (game): 5 (08/30/97 vs. Texas Tech, 11/22/97 vs. Kentucky)[7]
  • Most touchdowns (career): 101[7]
  • Most offensive plays (career): 1,534[7]
  • Most offensive plays (season): 538 (1997)[7]
  • Most offensive plays (game): 70 (09/21/96 vs. Florida)[6]

SEC records

  • Lowest interception percentage (season): 1.05% (1995)[205]
  • Highest completion percentage (career): 62.49%[7]
  • Lowest interception percentage (career): 2.39%[7]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 18[7]

NFL records

Manning holds a number of individual career records:

Regular season

  • Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 11 (1999–2004, 2006–2010)[206]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards: 6 (1999–2004; tied with Drew Brees)[2]
  • Most games with 40+ pass attempts in a season: 10 (2010)[207]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 20 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010) [37]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[206]
  • Most games with a perfect passer rating, career: 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[90]
  • Most consecutive games started to open a career: 208 [37][208]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)[209]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes: 5 (games 7–11, 2004)[210]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, season: 6 (2004; tied with 1984 Marino)[210]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes, career: 24 (includes 2 playoff games; tied with Brett Favre)[211]
  • Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes, career: 7 (includes 1 playoff game)[212]
  • Most games with at least 5 touchdown passes and no interceptions, career: 4 (tied with Tom Brady)
  • One of only seven QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes in two games (tied with Sammy Baugh, Y.A. Tittle, Daryle Lamonica, Tom Brady, Charley Johnson and George Blanda)[213]
  • One of only two QBs with at least 6 touchdown passes and no interceptions in two games (tied with Tom Brady)
  • Most regular games with at least 300 passing yards: 63 (tied with Dan Marino)
  • Most regular and postseason games with at least 300 passing yards: 71
  • Most games with at least 400 yards passing and no interceptions: 4
  • Most career touchdown passes in Thursday games: 25[214]
  • Most touchdown passes on a Thursday game: 6 (tied with Bob Griese)
  • Largest career TD-INT differential: 201
  • Highest career passing TDs/game average (min. 150 TD passes): 1.918 TDs/game[37]
  • Second-Highest career passing yards/game average: 263.6 (Drew Brees, 263.7) * Second-Highest career completions/game average (min. 100 games played): 22.5 (Drew Brees, 23.4) note:(for the purpose of being rested for the postseason, Manning was taken out early in 7 games; the last 2 games of 2009 and 2005, and the season finale in seasons 2008, 2007, 2004, thus diminishing his averages)
  • Highest completion percentage by a QB in one month in NFL history (min. 75 attempts): 81.8% (December 2008) [37]
  • Most career games with a completion percentage of 70% or higher (min. 10 attempts): 66[215]
  • Most consecutive regular season wins as a starter: 23 (2008–2009)
  • Most seasons with 10+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 11 (1999–2000, 2002–2010)
  • Most seasons with 12+ wins as a starter (regular season only): 8 (1999, 2003–2009)
  • Only QB with at least 12 wins as a starter in 7 consecutive seasons (2003–2009)[216]
  • Only QB with nine straight seasons of 10+ wins as a starter (2002–2010)[37]
  • Only QB to lead five consecutive 4th quarter comeback wins (games 7–11, 2009)[217]
  • Most fourth quarter comeback wins in one season: 7 (2009)[218]
  • First QB to defeat the other 31 teams in the regular season (Tom Brady did this later the same day, and Brett Favre did it the following week)[219]
  • Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular season only: 115 (2000s)[220]
  • Most wins as a starting QB in a decade, regular & postseason: 124 (2000s)
  • Most AP NFL MVP Awards: 4 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009)[1]
  • Most Touchdown Passes in a decade: 314 (2000–2009)
  • Most Passing Yards in a decade: 42,254 (2000–2009)
  • Most Completions in a decade: 3,575 (2000–2009)

Playoff records

  • Most 300+ yard passing games: 8 [221]
  • Most yards passing, 1st half of game: 360 vs. Denver Broncos, 1/9/05[222]
  • Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England[223]
  • One of only four QBs to post a perfect 158.3 passer rating in a game (Don Meredith, Terry Bradshaw, Dave Krieg)[224]
  • Most games with 20+ completions: 14[225] (surpassed by Tom Brady in 2011)
  • Most games with 30+ completions: 4[226] (surpassed by Drew Brees in 2011)
  • Most games with 30+ attempts: 17[227]
  • Most games with 40+ attempts: 8[228] (tied by Tom Brady in 2011)
  • Most completions and attempts in a single postseason: 97/153 (2006)[229]
  • One of only 2 quarterbacks to complete 80% of his passes in two playoff games (tied with Kurt Warner)[230]
  • Most consecutive postseasons with at least one start: 9 (2002–2010)

Rookie records

  • Most touchdown passes: 26[210]
  • Most consecutive games with a touchdown pass (games 4–16): 13[231]
  • Most games with at least one touchdown pass: 15 [37]
  • Most games with 300+ yards passing: 4 [37]

With Marvin Harrison

Manning and former Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison hold a number of QB-WR tandem records:

  • Most completions/receptions (career): 953[232]
  • Most passing/receiving yards (career): 12,756[232]
  • Most passing/receiving touchdowns (career): 112[37][232]
  • Most completions/receptions in a season, QB-to-WR duo: 143 (2002)
  • Most passing/receiving yards in a season, QB-to-WR duo: 1,722 (2002)

Pro Bowl records

  • Most Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 11 (tied with Brett Favre)[233]
  • Most consecutive Pro Bowl selections for a QB: 9 (during the 2002–2010 seasons)
  • Most passing attempts (career): 150[101]
  • Most passing attempts (game): 41 (2004)[234]
  • Most completions (career): 92[101]
  • Most completions (game): 22 (2004)[234]
  • Most passing yards (career): 1,278[101]
  • Most passing yards (game): 342 (2004)[234]
  • Most passing touchdowns (career): 13[101]

Colts franchise records

  • Most passing attempts (career): 7,210[36]
  • Most passing attempts (season): 679 (2010)[36]
  • Most passing attempts (rookie season): 575 (1998)[36]
  • Most 40+ passing attempt games (career): 56[36]
  • Most completions (career): 4,682[36]
  • Most completions (season): 450 (2010)[36]
  • Most completions (rookie season): 326 (1998)[36]
  • Most completions (game): 40 (09/12/10 at Houston)[36]
  • Most completions (rookie game): 30 (11/01/98 vs. New England)[36]
  • Most consecutive completions: 23 (12/14/08-12/18/08 vs. Detroit/Jacksonville)[37]
  • Most games with 20+ completions (career): 140[36]
  • Most consecutive games with 20+ completions: 14 (games 1–14, 2010)[36]
  • Most games with 30+ completions (career): 23[235]
  • Highest completion percentage (career): 64.9%[36]
  • Highest completion percentage (season): 68.8% (2009)[36]
  • Highest completion percentage (rookie season): 56.7%[36]
  • Highest completion percentage (game): 87.5% (14/16 for 95 yards, 12/30/07 vs. Tennessee)[37]
  • Most passing yards (career): 54,828[236]
  • Most passing yards (season): 4,700 (2010)[36]
  • Most passing yards (rookie season): 3,739[36]
  • Most passing yards (game): 472 (10/31/04 vs. Kansas City)[36]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (career): 63[36]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (season): 9 (2009)[36]
  • Most 300+ passing yard games (rookie season): 4[36]
  • Most consecutive passing 300+ yard games: 5 (games 1–5 in 2009)[36]
  • Most seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards : 11 (1999–2004, 2006–2010)[206]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 4,000 passing yards (1999–2004): 6[2]
  • Most touchdown passes (career): 399[237]
  • Most touchdown passes (season): 49 (2004)[36]
  • Most touchdown passes (rookie season): 26[36]

  • Most touchdown passes (game): 6 (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans and 11/25/04 vs. Detroit)[36]
  • Most touchdown passes (rookie game): 3 (4 times; tied with Johnny Unitas and Jeff George)[36]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (career): 22[238]
  • Most games with at least 4 touchdown passes (season, 2004): 6[210]
  • Most games with at least 3 touchdown passes (career): 64[36]
  • Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (season): 15 (5 times)[36]
  • Most games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 15 (1998)[36]
  • Most consecutive uninterrupted games with at least 1 touchdown pass: 27
  • Most consecutive games with at least 4 touchdown passes (games 7–11, 2004): 5 (2004)[210]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 3 touchdown passes: 8 (games 5–12, 2004)[239]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 2 touchdown passes: 13 (games 1–13, 2004)[36]
  • Most consecutive games with at least 1 touchdown pass (rookie season): 13 (games 4–16)[36]
  • Most consecutive seasons with at least 25 touchdown passes: 13 (1998–2010)[206]
  • Highest touchdown percentage (career): 5.66%[36]
  • Highest touchdown percentage (season): 9.86% (2004)[36]
  • Highest touchdown percentage (game): 24.00% (09/28/03 vs. New Orleans)[36]
  • Most interceptions thrown (game): 6 (11/11/07 vs. San Diego)[36]
  • Most interceptions thrown (season): 28 (1998)[36]
  • Highest passer rating (career): 94.9[36]
  • Second highest passer rating (season): 121.1 (2004)[36]
  • Most games with a perfect passer rating (career): 4 (includes 1 playoff game)[90]
  • Most consecutive games started to open a career by a quarterback: 208 (current)[240]
  • Most games played, franchise history: 208
  • Most consecutive games started, franchise history: 208 (current)[240]
  • Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (career): 35 (includes one playoff game) [36]
  • Most comeback wins in the 4th quarter (season): 7 (2009) [36]
  • Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (career): 46 (includes one playoff game) [36]
  • Most game-winning drives in the 4th quarter/overtime (season): 7 (1999, 2008, 2009

Let us never forget what he has done for the Colts. Great post, Thanks
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Let us never forget what he has done for the Colts. Great post, Thanks

This is a what have you done for me lately league - certainly Colts fans will never forget Manning, but I figure a day will come where most will move on and eventually stop mentioning his name every time the Colts are discussed.

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No one will ever fill Peyton's shoes. I don't care if Luck is the single best quarterback the world has ever seen, he will NEVER be Peyton Manning.

That's the thing...Luck doesn't have to be Peyton. If he does indeed, as many analysts seem to believe, win 6 Super Bowls and blow every passing record out of the water, he still won't be loved by the entirety of his fanbase, and that's just not fair. No, Manning won't ever be forgotten, but talents from the past can easily be eclipsed with greater success from the successor. Talk to Drew Bledsoe if you don't believe me...

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That's the thing...Luck doesn't have to be Peyton. If he does indeed, as many analysts seem to believe, win 6 Super Bowls and blow every passing record out of the water, he still won't be loved by the entirety of his fanbase, and that's just not fair.

Trust me, in a relatively fairweather mid sized market like Indy, if Luck wins at least 2 SBs and 2 MVPs, he will be on par with Peyton. Peyton himself and fans/players would exchange 2 MVPs for an extra SB any day, IMO. Just like a bunch of young fans started following the Colts just after Peyton was drafted, there will be a bunch of younger ones that will follow the Colts more after Luck starts winning. Just like I have little allegiance to Johnny Unitas or any kind of soft corner for him like I do with Peyton, the trend will continue with Luck era newbie Colts fans. If you were in the 80s and loved 80s music, you will swear that it is the best music you could have grown up with. That is just the way things are in life. Everything is transient, even HOF players.

Only thing that is constant is the laundry that is sold to you as a franchise and for the most part, the family of owners too. :)

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That's the thing...Luck doesn't have to be Peyton. If he does indeed, as many analysts seem to believe, win 6 Super Bowls and blow every passing record out of the water, he still won't be loved by the entirety of his fanbase, and that's just not fair. No, Manning won't ever be forgotten, but talents from the past can easily be eclipsed with greater success from the successor. Talk to Drew Bledsoe if you don't believe me...

Believe it or not, Manning wasn't loved by the entirety of the fanbase. Some people are immune to reason.

But I would think that if Luck does blow the numbers out of the water, the level headed fans who resent him because he "replaced" Manning would come around eventually, so long as Luck doesn't rub their face in it.

As far as Drew Bledsoe, he wasn't as good as Manning, nor did he do as much for his team and city as Manning has done for the Colts and Indianapolis. Not downplaying Bledsoe, but he never reached that rarefied air that Manning did.

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I'll stand by my previous statement that in my opinion if Manning doesn't develop as he did, there would be no such thing as the Indianapolis Colts in the current NFL.

Others can agree or disagree, but there is not one thing that can/will dispel that thought from my mind.

No doubt about that.

Unitas put Baltimore Colts on the map and possibly the AFC too, other than the Namath guarantee :). Peyton did the same for the Indianapolis Colts.

Luck will, hopefully, be a competent torch carrier. The tradition for Luck has been set, a tradition of winning that the Colts are known for. He just needs to keep it moving forward.

Unitas in Baltimore and Peyton in Indy established that consistent winning tradition that we now cherish. :) They were the trend setters.

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Believe it or not, Manning wasn't loved by the entirety of the fanbase. Some people are immune to reason.

But I would think that if Luck does blow the numbers out of the water, the level headed fans who resent him because he "replaced" Manning would come around eventually, so long as Luck doesn't rub their face in it.

As far as Drew Bledsoe, he wasn't as good as Manning, nor did he do as much for his team and city as Manning has done for the Colts and Indianapolis. Not downplaying Bledsoe, but he never reached that rarefied air that Manning did.

True. I wonder if those few Colts fans who did not love Manning are the old-timers from the Unitas glory days. I don't think Luck is the type to rub someone's face in if he is very successful, but who knows, six SBs would make anyone arrogant. :D Manning's rarefied air is just that...rarefied. Not just for the Colts, but for the league lol. No wonder 12 is having a hard time with the fans hahaha.

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OK. He had some accomplishments.

I think Luck has him trumped.

NFL accomplishments

One very good half in a preseason game, against one of the worst teams in football.

Case closed.

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Six MVPs? Three SBs? There has to be a ceiling or poor Luck is going to feel unappreciated. :(

Luck would have to go back in time, and teach a 6 year old boy everything hew knows about the game by watching him play. I highly doubt that's possible.

I mean I use to sit alone in my back yards going through the passes Manning threw each game.

Like Superman said, Luck can be the greatest of all time. He doesn't touch Peyton in my mind.

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True. I wonder if those few Colts fans who did not love Manning are the old-timers from the Unitas glory days. I don't think Luck is the type to rub someone's face in if he is very successful, but who knows, six SBs would make anyone arrogant. :D Manning's rarefied air is just that...rarefied. Not just for the Colts, but for the league lol. No wonder 12 is having a hard time with the fans hahaha.

Very much so. Like FJC said, without Manning, it's very possible the Colts leave Indianapolis rather than having LOS built. He's not just a really good quarterback. He helped build something that's going to last for a very long time. I can see that, and I don't live in the region.

The only other player in the league right now that has that kind of presence and importance is Drew Brees. Some are turned off by him because of his contract issue and his support for his teammates through the bounty issue, but he helped the New Orleans region in a very real way after Hurricane Katrina. He's not as big there as Manning was to Indy, but the same kind of attachment is there. Probably won't be as meaningful after he leaves, either.

Maybe Ray Lewis has this status in Baltimore.

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Luck would have to go back in time, and teach a 6 year old boy everything hew knows about the game by watching him play. I highly doubt that's possible.

I mean I use to sit alone in my back yards going through the passes Manning threw each game.

Like Superman said, Luck can be the greatest of all time. He doesn't touch Peyton in my mind.

I had a ton of trees in my yard, so they always became targets.. I wasn't young enough to pretend to be Manning, but I did the same Bradshaw/Fouts and others, with the trees being my Swann/Stallworth & Winslow/Chandler

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I had a ton of trees in my yard, so they always became targets.. I wasn't young enough to pretend to be Manning, but I did the same Bradshaw/Fouts and others, with the trees being my Swann/Stallworth & Winslow/Chandler

The only "targets" I had was the occasional car that drove through the alley. Boy would my heart drop when I let the ball go, and a second later a car appeared as it pass my neighbor's garage.

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The only "targets" I had was the occasional car that drove through the alley. Boy would my heart drop when I let the ball go, and a second later a car appeared as it pass my neighbor's garage.

Cars became more of a target during baseball season. Of course there were a few broken windows here and there as well.

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The only "targets" I had was the occasional car that drove through the alley. Boy would my heart drop when I let the ball go, and a second later a car appeared as it pass my neighbor's garage.

Cars became more of a target during baseball season. Of course there were a few broken windows here and there as well.

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