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Why are people talking about using JT for the last play ?

 

He was injured again right ? He went back to the locker room.

 

It was a good season and the team overachieved because of SS

 

The good news is the Colts have the right coach

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8 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

Why are people talking about using JT for the last play ?

 

He was injured again right ? He went back to the locker room.

 

It was a good season and the team overachieved because of SS

 

The good news is the Colts have the right coach

The big question for me is why Tyler Goodson? Why put the fate of your season in the hands of a player who had played just two games up to that point. If you're going to call that play, then throw it to Pittman or Downs or Moss out of the back field. 

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7 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

Why are people talking about using JT for the last play ?

Because people think that a "star" can do anything, even though he couldn't have caught that pass any better than Goodson.

 

JT showed us why he signed the contract with that long TD run (but HOU was in a blitz and they really blew the containment more than JT made a dominating play to get loose, IMO)

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My thoughts on the game:

  • A well played game overall.  Just got beat by a better team.
  • It was as if HOU allowed JT to run but shut down the pass,,,,knowing that NFL playoffs are about passing the ball and a RB running for 200 yds is less harmful.
  • There is no trophy for "making the playoffs", so I don't know why folks made such a big deal about it.  The chances of this team winning the AFCCG after getting in by an expanded playoff setting was very remote anyway.

 

  • Overall a good season, and Steichen should be commended for getting this team as far as Frank usually took the Colts.  But shuffling HCs, DC, schemes, playcalling, etc. are not going to get this team where it needs to be.  Kind of like worrying about what RB you have when you are playing in a passing league.
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9 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Because people think that a "star" can do anything, even though he couldn't have caught that pass any better than Goodson.

 

JT showed us why he signed the contract with that long TD run (but HOU was in a blitz and they really blew the containment more than JT made a dominating play to get loose, IMO)

It didn’t have to be Taylor. Taylor could have just been a decoy.  You could have used Pittman on a play or even downs.  What about miss.  
 

The bigger question is why were we playing like we only needed a field goal. It’s not like we were on the ten yard line. There could of been a better series of plays that milked the clock.

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22 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

Why are people talking about using JT for the last play ?

 

He was injured again right ? He went back to the locker room.

 

It was a good season and the team overachieved because of SS

 

The good news is the Colts have the right coach

So use him as a decoy. You have Pittman ect. Trying to tell me you don’t have a better set of plays for guys like him.

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3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It didn’t have to be Taylor. Taylor could have just been a decoy.  You could have used Pittman on a play or even downs.  What about miss.  

You are talking about calling a different play? 

 

Why would a different play have worked if Minshew threw it behind that receiver too?

 

Or maybe in another play, the defense covers every other player except the PS guy....just like the play that was ran.

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You don’t take the ball out of your best players hands. There were many more options there.

1 minute ago, DougDew said:

You are talking about calling a different play? 

 

Why would a different play have worked if Minshew threw it behind that receiver too?

 

Or maybe in another play, the defense covers every other player except the PS guy....just like the play that was ran.

If that was Steichen best play in that situation then his play calling was bad.   That’s why you have players that are paid big money.

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2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

You don’t take the ball out of your best players hands. There were many more options there.

If that was Steichen best play in that situation then his play calling was bad.   That’s why you have players that are paid big money.


even if you don’t have JT in there put Moss in. 

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1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

You don’t take the ball out of your best players hands. There were many more options there.

If that was Steichen best play in that situation then his play calling was bad.  

Goodson was wide open and across the FD line.  Seems like the play caller did a great job.

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4 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This sure seems like it was on Goodson. Hard to know if it was taught this way or it was on him.

 

 

He is a 3rd string back and it looks like he ran the route wrong.


Ran it wrong?  lol!   
 

Also, he wasn’t going to score on that play.  The way Minshew played, we’ll never know if we would have scored in four downs.  

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9 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This sure seems like it was on Goodson. Hard to know if it was taught this way or it was on him.

 

 

He is a 3rd string back and it looks like he ran the route wrong.

He was open.  So what ever route he ran, a playoff caliber Qb should put it on him.  I doubt that AR would have either, but that's the current state of the Colts QBing right now.  

 

And most teams have 3rd down RBs that are not PS guys.  But our star RB can't be counted on to run plays like that one.

 

Steichen is absolutely the last person to blame for the play fail.

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34 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Because people think that a "star" can do anything, even though he couldn't have caught that pass any better than Goodson.

 

JT showed us why he signed the contract with that long TD run (but HOU was in a blitz and they really blew the containment more than JT made a dominating play to get loose, IMO)

Doug just stop with the Taylor bashing. Without him we get blown out of our own building last night, and THAT is why he was paid. He was literally the only offensive player we had that showed up. It wasnt about a single run.

 

And why do you always act like making a team pay dearly for a mistake isnt exactly what great players do? 

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20 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Goodson was wide open and across the FD line.  Seems like the play caller did a great job.

He was wide open for the same reason he was available in the middle of the season. Hes JAG.

 

Taylor 123 career catches

 

Goodson 6 career catches

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26 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

It didn’t have to be Taylor. Taylor could have just been a decoy.  You could have used Pittman on a play or even downs.  What about miss.  
 

The bigger question is why were we playing like we only needed a field goal. It’s not like we were on the ten yard line. There could have been a better series of plays that milked the clock.

Pittman couldn’t have been more covered up all game last night if he’d been wrapped in a blanket 

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26 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

So use him as a decoy. You have Pittman ect. Trying to tell me you don’t have a better set of plays for guys like him.

Coaches don't normally put injured players in the game

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Every year, I love the Colt’s and it seems like they never love me back. But, I will be back next year God willing. It stings and it sucks, Indy fans in Lucas Oil  last night did your job.

 

We will have to spend $$ to upgrade the areas we need to improve. We were good not great. 
 

Brent’s has me concerned, Baker will be gone. Thomas also. 
 

The throws that Stroud made on that final drive were great. He’s really good already. 
 

Let’s hope AR has grown from the sideline and watched and learned, Huge weight on his shoulders to stay healthy. 
 

Fire this person, that person discussion will continue. I do like Steichen and he shifted the culture enough to bring hope for next year. 
 

 


 

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9 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

This sure seems like it was on Goodson. Hard to know if it was taught this way or it was on him.

 

 

He is a 3rd string back and it looks like he ran the route wrong.

 

 Minshew was off target all day, bad routes, and you come up with this garbage. How about the QB looks at his receiver and throw it where it needs to go.

 Steichen was hamstrung with what he could call because of Minshews limited repertoire. Hopefully we get a young backup with more tools for Steichen to develop.

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Just now, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Minshew was off target all day, bad routes, and you come up with this garbage. How about the QB looks at his receiver and throw it where it needs to go.

 Steichen was hamstrung with what he could call because of Minshews limited repertoire. Hopefully we get a young backup with more tools for Steichen to develop.

That’s a hall of fame QB talking about why Minshew threw the ball like that. Come on man. He talked about how the route should have been run.

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Minshew has happy feet.He rushes throws and panic sets in .Not a starting qb.I really do not care if we lose him. Bradley needs to go.He refuses to change his schemes.Our d backs are at least 8 yds off the line against recievers.Rushing 4  every game does not work as the game gets into the 4 th quarter.

You cannot build a champion.soley thru the draft .Free agents must be signed at some point. We probably are playing with Steichen 's half play book.looking forward to changes next year

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14 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

Doug just stop with the Taylor bashing. Without him we get blown out of our own building last night, and THAT is why he was paid. He was literally the only offensive player we had that showed up. It wasnt about a single run.

 

And why do you always act like making a team pay dearly for a mistake isnt exactly what great players do? 

We would have gotten blown out because of a poor passing game.  HOU shut down our passing game, because passing the ball is key to playoff success.

 

JT played like a RB that benefited from a defense that was focusing on stopping the pass.   More up the gut runs that succeeded in the middle of the game, but got stuffed when it mattered (like after the HOU injury 3 more run plays resulted in a punt).  Even Steichen knew not to run him up the gut on 4th and 1.

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I am disappointed by the outcome of the game, as all Colts fans are. But if I would have been told that they would even be in that position after last year and after losing Richardson early in the season, I would have taken that. 
I just wish that with the season on the line that the ball would have been in Taylor, Moss, Pittman, or Pierce hands. I would have felt that they gave themselves the best chance to win. If Minshew to Goodson would have worked it would have been genius, but I felt they had put the game in the stars hands.

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12 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Warner explains it very well. So your just going to ignore it.

 

 Let's believe Steichen had our play designed and we practiced it multiple times just the way it was ran.

 Minshew made an instant decision to throw it to the wrong shoulder creating an impossible catch opportunity. Warner would make a great coach.

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This is getting ridiculous.   
 

Does anyone think they ran a play yesterday that they didn’t run over and over in practice?   
 

The deep shot to Cox was done to creat a mismatch.  It worked.  He was open.  
 

I guarantee final play was run with that personnel group because he was the best RB receiver.  Easy pass, again Minshew threw a bad ball.

 

But it is good to know so many here are better play callers than our head coach.  You never know when Shane is going to come to the forum for his next game plan!

 

Carry on.

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Just now, DougDew said:

We would have gotten blown out because of a poor passing game.  HOU shut down our passing game, because passing the ball is key to playoff success.

 

JT played like a RB that benefited from a defense that was focusing on stopping the pass.   More up the gut runs that succeeded in the middle of the game, but got stuffed when it mattered (like after the HOU injury 3 more run plays resulted in a punt).  Even Steichen knew not to run him up the gut on 4th and 1.

Sure thing Doug. You live in a spin zone. 

Just now, Smonroe said:

This is getting ridiculous.   
 

Does anyone think they ran a play yesterday that they didn’t run over and over in practice?   
 

The deep shot to Cox was done to creat a mismatch.  It worked.  He was open.  
 

I guarantee final play was run with that personnel group because he was the best RB receiver.  Easy pass, again Minshew threw a bad ball.

 

But it is good to know so many here are better play callers than our head coach.  You never know when Shane is going to come to the forum for his next game plan!

 

Carry on.

6 catches and he is some pass catching wiz now?

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