Jonathan Taylor comments on his contract/Request trade (Merge)

[Superman]

Just now, Nickster said:

@Superman Thought you'd get a kick out of that Supe. 

 

Yeah that was pretty good, I love the irony 🙃

[stitches]

Am I the only one who gets progressively annoyed with the way players handle themselves during contract disputes? I would much rather him just state that he's holding out than do ... whatever it is that he's doing now. 

[Superman]

16 minutes ago, stitches said:

Am I the only one who gets progressively annoyed with the way players handle themselves during contract disputes? I would much rather him just state that he's holding out than do ... whatever it is that he's doing now. 

 

I don't get annoyed by it, it's part of the business. I don't like it, but this is the way it goes.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, Nickster said:

 

He went from 12.3 to 9.3.  Drop off sure, but not quite as dramatic lol. 

A drop of of 25 percent is huge.   It’s not normal.   When it happens there are reasons why….    More than just Pittman isn’t very good.   

[JColts72]

Sign Cook; much more durable and productive. Guess the dreaded running back committee.

[jvan1973]

11 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Sign Cook; much more durable and productive. Guess the dreaded running back committee.

That's obviously not gonna happen

[JColts72]

6 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

That's obviously not gonna happen

 

6 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

That's obviously not gonna happen

The rbc will though.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Holder on the radio this morning also said he believes this is a contract issues.

[jvan1973]

6 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

 

The rbc will though.

JT will get signed.   Next off season 

[throwing BBZ]

On 7/25/2023 at 9:27 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I agree, we also have the money to pay Taylor a reasonably great contract. I wouldn't give Taylor anything crazy but 13 or 14 Mill over 3 years at his age is not going to make or break our Salary Cap.

 

 And paying him is not going to make us contenders the next two years.

It is money that should be used for others extensions or rolled over for other opportunities when we are close to contending.

 There is nothing new about this mode of operation. It is a hard nosed way of doing business but wisely the best approach to attaining the Ultimate goal.

For your Colts, we should see how well things are coming together say by mid-season, and if it's looks impressive and he is healthy, then perhaps see if he can agree.

[Moosejawcolt]

I remember listening to a coiple ofcpod casts and how a couple of thr guys were less than impressed with JT after a game. They thought he lacked accountability in some of his comments and was 1st out of the locker room. I predicted this is going to get messy before it gets good. Thr problem is that u can't trade him because of the rb market. JT is in an unwinnable situation. He has one year  left heading into a contract year. He won't sit and he needs to out forth maximum effort. Therefore, the Colts are in the driver's seat and who cares if his feelings are hurt.

[Nickster]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

A drop of of 25 percent is huge.   It’s not normal.   When it happens there are reasons why….    More than just Pittman isn’t very good.   

Definitely effected by the crappy team around him no doubt.  I didn’t see that you had typed the 2 instead of the 1.  

[Nickster]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

I don't get annoyed by it, it's part of the business. I don't like it, but this is the way it goes.

This I also agree with.  Footballs hard, especially RB.  I don’t care how they fight for their dollars.  
 

BUT I wouldn’t give them big long term money.

[NewColtsFan]

1 minute ago, Nickster said:

Definitely effected by the crappy team around him no doubt.  I didn’t see that you had typed the 2 instead of the 1.  

Honestly, I didn’t see it either!   Lol!   

[CR91]

Well folks, we got a hold out

 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

Well folks, we got a hold out

 

 

Wow this might not end well.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Irsay needs to learn when to shut his mouth. This does nothing positive. It could lead to Taylor never playing for the colts again.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

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[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Not good to create resentment with your star RB.

 

 

[w87r]

18 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Irsay needs to learn when to shut his mouth. This does nothing positive. It could lead to Taylor never playing for the colts again.

Who are you to tell Irsay he needs to shut his mouth? 

 

I appreciate him putting Taylor on notice. Sounds like he needs to be.

 

We're not caving, that's what I heard, and that's good.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Not good to create resentment with your star RB.

 

 

Taylor and his agent are the ones creating it.

 

They are overplaying their hand.

[w87r]

22 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

He had 69 carries for 334 yards over final four games last season. 4.8yds a carry

 

Someone should mention that to Jake.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, w87r said:

Who are you to tell Irsay he needs to shut his mouth? 

 

I appreciate him putting Taylor on notice. Sounds like he needs to be.

 

We're not caving, that's what I heard, and that's good.

 

 

Taylor and his agent are the ones creating it.

 

They are overplaying their hand.

Irsay can say what he wants. It doesn’t mean he made a good move here.

 

I think these agents are doing their clients a disservice.

[cjwhiskers]

Classic Irsay, never afraid to Tweet his mind. Gotta love him for his authenticity for better or worse. 
 

What I take from that is that Irsay feels the Colts have offered JT a market competitive contract. I’m super curious to know how far apart they are. 

[w87r]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Irsay can say what he wants. It doesn’t mean he made a good move here.

 

I think these agents are doing their clients a disservice.

I don't think it was a bad move by Irsay at all. I think it was needed. Happy he put them on blast, not just Taylor, all of them.

 

 

Guy is literally coming off of surgery. Finish your contract and show your worth a new big deal.(I'm sure he's been offered a big deal already).

 

He feels pressure from the other RBs to make a stand. He needs to take a look at what Barkley did and start taking care of himself.(he got a little more than FranTag, but it didn't help the broader RB argument, in fact hurt it)

[CR91]

This is becoming a circus. That's JT's agent

 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

6 minutes ago, CR91 said:

This is becoming a circus. That's JT's agent

 

 

These agents don’t understand the running back market and are not doing their clients any favors.

[TaylorStillTruckedYou]

6 hours ago, JColts72 said:

Sign Cook; much more durable and productive. Guess the dreaded running back committee.

I believe cook said that he wasn't signing anywhere below his value, so he as well is wanting to get paid.  Not sure how successful that may be though

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I would like to know what these agents are really asking for. Just saying pay then does not tell me what money they are looking for. 

[w87r]

1 minute ago, CR91 said:

This is becoming a circus. That's JT's agent

 

 

I have some strange feeling, they're trying to get like $20m. Tackles are getting $25m WRs approaching $30m.

 

 

Taylor might end up getting traded.

 

I would pull the best offer for him on the table currently and make him play it out.

 

Tag next year if he stays and isn't traded.

 

 

Nice profile pic agent. 

[TaylorStillTruckedYou]

7 minutes ago, CR91 said:

This is becoming a circus. That's JT's agent

 

 

This is not what we need right now...both sides need to keep this behind closed doors.  Irsay, I love him but sometimes he invites unwanted tension

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Taylor has the same agent as Leonard.

1 minute ago, w87r said:

I have some strange feeling, they're trying to get like $20m. Tackles are getting $25m WRs approaching $30m.

 

 

Taylor might end up getting traded.

 

I would pull the best offer for him on the table currently and make him play it out.

 

Tag next year if he stays and isn't traded.

 

 

Nice profile pic agent. 

No one will trade for him and pay him. These running backs are stuck.

[NFLfan]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

These agents don’t understand the running back market and are not doing their clients any favors.

 

They understand it but they have to work to get as much money for their clients as possible. That is the job of the agent. Sometimes it may backfire but the agents are not doing their jobs if they don't try to get as much as they can for their clients. McCaffrey and Henry got good deals.

[w87r]

1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Taylor has the same agent as Leonard.

No one will trade for him and pay him. These running backs are stuck.

Someone would trade for him if that is the route we went.

 

I do agree, these RBs aren't going to find what they are looking for on the open market. I think the teams are aligned in this battle.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

These agents need to realize a WR is more Valuable then a running back. Pittman is way more valuable in a passing league then Taylor.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

7 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

They understand it but they have to work to get as much money for their clients as possible. That is the job of the agent. Sometimes it may backfire but the agents are not doing their jobs if they don't try to get as much as they can for their clients. McCaffrey and Henry got good deals.

A good agent recognizes the market value. Seems these agents don’t understand the market value for running backs. Neither of those guys would get that deal today.

[CR91]

10 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

A good agent recognizes the market value. Seems these agents don’t understand the market value for running backs. Neither of those guys would get that deal today.

 

12 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

These agents need to realize a WR is more Valuable then a running back. Pittman is way more valuable in a passing league then Taylor.

 

You pay the player not the position. No one is gonna say Pittman is more valuable then Taylor

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

 

You pay the player not the position. No one is gonna say Pittman is more valuable then Taylor

I do. Colts aren’t exactly over flowing with wide receivers. Especially with a young QB who needs a reliable target. They can plug a RB in and probably still be alright without Taylor.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Ouch