King Colt Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Senior Yahoo sports reporter Charles Robinson was on Jim Rome this Monday morning and said theĀ Colts "would be crazy not to contact him about a job". I pray this does not happen. Maybe Hoody will take him.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 It depends on how desperate the Eagles are to trade him away. Ā Because of his play it would be at this point difficult to replace Rivers on the Colts if Rivers wanted to come back.Ā Ā Ā On the other hand for the long term I think Wentz is about as good of a prospect as there is.Ā He had periods of great play and only one bad year.Ā Ā Ā The contract might be a bit much to swallow but people forget that if the Eagles trade him away they have to pay his signing bonus.Ā Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Four2itus Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 HIs comments in the media tell me his head isn't right. I think Ballard will turn away.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimJaime Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 1:13 PM, King Colt said: Senior Yahoo sports reporter Charles Robinson was on Jim Rome this Monday morning and said theĀ Colts "would be crazy not to contact him about a job". I pray this does not happen. Maybe Hoody will take him.Ā His contract is to insane for BB and he is a project and very injury prone. IMO BB wants Jimmy G back if the 49ers cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts1324 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I think Bill B goes after Winston or drafts a QB. There is no purpose for them to get an old QB, or a QB that has many question marks.Ā Ā They are in cap hell, and they lack talent onĀ all phases of their team.Ā Ā QB, RB, WR, D-Line, LB's, Safety, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosys Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Valpo2004 said: It depends on how desperate the Eagles are to trade him away. Ā Because of his play it would be at this point difficult to replace Rivers on the Colts if Rivers wanted to come back.Ā Ā Ā On the other hand for the long term I think Wentz is about as good of a prospect as there is.Ā He had periods of great play and only one bad year.Ā Ā Ā The contract might be a bit much to swallow but people forget that if the Eagles trade him away they have to pay his signing bonus.Ā Ā People are also talking about Derek Carr to the Colts... so there's that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazycolt1 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Personally, if I were Ballard I would stay away from Wentz.Ā IMO Rivers will be our QB next season with Eason as the #2.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Colt Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 If it ain't broke don't fix it. Stick with a winner meaning Rivers next year, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NannyMcafee Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Run awayĀ from horrible teammate Wentz.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I would much rather us bring back Curtis Painter than trade for Wentz, Carr or Darnold.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReMeDy Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, csmopar said: I would much rather us bring back Curtis Painter than trade for Wentz, Carr or Darnold.Ā Ā If Painter is fine playing for free, sure. He's great at holding clipboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Seems like there's a new Wentz thread everyday now Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, csmopar said: I would much rather us bring back Curtis Painter than trade for Wentz, Carr or Darnold.Ā Ā I guess you figure there's a elite cant miss QB in 2022 draft and having Painter as our QB we will get the #1 overall pick. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Ā I guess you figure there's a elite cant miss QB in 2022 draft and having Painter as our QB we will get the #1 overall pick. Lol Yep and heāll cost less than any of those 3 as well! 41 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: Seems like there's a new Wentz thread everyday now Ā The only way Iād even remotely try to take on Wentzās contract is if the Eagles gave me 3 number 1s.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, csmopar said: Yep and heāll cost less than any of those 3 as well! The only way Iād even remotely try to take on Wentzās contract is if the Eagles gave me 3 number 1s.Ā Ā Actually I believe it was explained here the other day his contact wasn't outrageous and definitely doable and possibly a high draft pick in return.Ā The question is bringing back Rivers for 1 more year OR gambling on fixing Wentz and maybe having a Franchise QB in his prime for the present & future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Ā Actually I believe it was explained here the other day his contact wasn't outrageous and definitely doable and possibly a high draft pick in return.Ā The question is bringing back Rivers for 1 more year OR gambling on fixing Wentz and maybe having a Franchise QB in his prime for the present & future? Bring Rivers back Take shot at Trask or Jones for 22 Ā BUT and thats a huge but... Don't trade up whatsoeverĀ Ā Jones is probably more likely infact Trade back in 1st get extra 2 and draft Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Ā Actually I believe it was explained here the other day his contact wasn't outrageous and definitely doable and possibly a high draft pick in return.Ā The question is bringing back Rivers for 1 more year OR gambling on fixing Wentz and maybe having a Franchise QB in his prime for the present & future? My statement stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, csmopar said: My statement stands If I was Ballard I'd go after Wentz hard and either draft a QB I like to compete with Eason or bring in 2nd tier veteran incase Wentz & Eason doesn't workout. The finances would be least of my concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: If I was Ballard I'd go after Wentz hard and either draft a QB I like to compete with Eason or bring in 2nd tier veteran incase Wentz & Eason doesn't workout. The finances would be least of my concerns. Wentz is broken and beyond serviceĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: If I was Ballard I'd go after Wentz hard and either draft a QB I like to compete with Eason or bring in 2nd tier veteran incase Wentz & Eason doesn't workout. The finances would be least of my concerns. Hard? That implies you are ok giving up high pick. Please clarify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsarquise Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 On 12/21/2020 at 1:13 PM, King Colt said: Senior Yahoo sports reporter Charles Robinson was on Jim Rome this Monday morning and said theĀ Colts "would be crazy not to contact him about a job". I pray this does not happen. Maybe Hoody will take him.Ā I pray it does not happen, either. These people have got to stop saying stuff like this. Can't let people speak this in to existence.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, danlhart87 said: Hard? That implies you are ok giving up high pick. Please clarify Ā I heard Eagles would give a high pick to move him.Ā Could you imagine Ballard with a additional high pick?Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Ā I heard Eagles would give a high pick to move him.Ā Could you imagine Ballard with a additional high pick?Ā I meant what Colts would give up not the EaglesĀ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, csmopar said: Wentz is broken and beyond serviceĀ Ā Maybe, maybe not??Ā But he's still young and healthy and many feel he's worth the gamble. Especially for a team that's future QB situation is unknown. That's why the talking heads connect the dots to the Colts.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: I meant what Colts would give up not the EaglesĀ Ā The team that trades for him may get Wentz AND a pick. The team getting him doesn't give up anything,Ā They just take on his contract.Ā That's just what I heard.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Ā The team that trades for him may get Wentz AND a pick. The team getting him doesn't give up anything,Ā They just take on his contract.Ā That's just what I heard.Ā No team just gives up picks or players for nothingĀ Just now, danlhart87 said: No team just gives up picks or picks for nothingĀ except bill obrien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Ā Maybe, maybe not??Ā But he's still young and healthy and many feel he's worth the gamble. Especially for a team that's future QB situation is unknown. That's why the talking heads connect the dots to the Colts.Ā id rather take a shot at Eason or rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, danlhart87 said: No team just gives up picks or players for nothingĀ except bill obrien Not sure but I think Denver gave up picks to get rid of their QB and his contract. I forgot his name, he played like half the season with Peyton the year they won SB. I think the Brownies were the other team involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: id rather take a shot at Eason or rookie Depends on the rookie but that would be very very risky. It's not like the rookie would be a Trevor Lawrence or a justin fields type of prospect.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Depends on the rookie but that would be very very risky. It's not like the rookie would be a Trevor Lawrence or a justin fields type of prospect.Ā That's the whole point though! You are getting an unknown on a rookie contract. Wentz is an unknown with a terrible contract.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: That's the whole point though! You are getting an unknown on a rookie contract. Wentz is an unknown with a terrible contract.Ā Ā Why are you so obsessed with contracts?Ā Do you think a lower tier rookie prospect has the same upside that Wentz had in his couple good seasons ? He was on his way to the MVP before getting injured. When he leaves that Dumpster Fire aka the Eagles he might return to that player. It only takes money to find out.Ā Ā Some don't want him. Some think he's worth the chance.Ā I'm done talking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Ā Why are you so obsessed with contracts?Ā Do you think a lower tier rookie prospect has the same upside that Wentz had in his couple good seasons ? He was on his way to the MVP before getting injured. When he leaves that Dumpster Fire aka the Eagles he might return to that player. It only takes money to find out.Ā Ā Some don't want him. Some think he's worth the chance.Ā I'm done talking about it. Its the business side of the NFL that most people tend to overlook. I understand you want him and I'm not bashing that but you must know the importance to the entire team how much 1 contract can hurt a team. Ā Clearly there are ways Wentz could be had through trade possibly or restructuring his contract after he's cut but until then all that is an educated guess. Ā Knowing what we know now Wentz isn't worth it but I do agree to some extent that a change of scenery could be good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: Its the business side of the NFL that most people tend to overlook. I understand you want him and I'm not bashing that but you must know the importance to the entire team how much 1 contract can hurt a team. Ā Clearly there are ways Wentz could be had through trade possibly or restructuring his contract after he's cut but until then all that is an educated guess. Ā Knowing what we know now Wentz isn't worth it but I do agree to some extent that a change of scenery could be good for him. The Eagles canāt afford to Wentz this off-season and probably not trade him either. Ā Ā https://www.inquirer.com/newsletters/eagles/eagles-carson-wentz-contract-salary-jalen-hurts-howie-roseman-doug-pederson-20201208.html Ā Rivers is most likely going to be the Colts QB next year. Ā Why would they want to move on from him if he wants toĀ play? Ā Heās done everything the Colts hoped he would and more when he came here. Ā Ā Of course the media is going to speculate about Wentz coming here because of his ties with Frank that doesnāt mean itās going to happen or that itās likely to happen either. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said: The Eagles canāt afford to Wentz this off-season and probably not trade him either. Ā Ā https://www.inquirer.com/newsletters/eagles/eagles-carson-wentz-contract-salary-jalen-hurts-howie-roseman-doug-pederson-20201208.html Ā Rivers is most likely going to be the Colts QB next year. Ā Why would they want to move on from him if he wants toĀ play? Ā Heās done everything the Colts hoped he would and more when he came here. Ā Ā Of course the media is going to speculate about Wentz coming here because of his ties with Frank that doesnāt mean itās going to happen or that itās likely to happen either. Ā I agree completely. I didn't clarify on Wentz. He wouldn't be cut this year. By 2022 like said before Colts could just roll with Eason or rookie from 21 or 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, danlhart87 said: I agree completely. I didn't clarify on Wentz. He wouldn't be cut this year. By 2022 like said before Colts could just roll with Eason or rookie from 21 or 22 Well I expect Rivers to be back forĀ 2021. Ā 2022 could be interesting. Ā Clearly Rivers play and desire to play will play into that. Ā I think Rivers is in a situation where he goes year to year from now to the end of his career with contracts. Ā Ā Eason is going to have to earn the starting chance in 2022. Ā Itās not unheard of for fourth round draft picks at QB to just be career backups so there is no promise he will get a chance to start. Ā How he performs and just how things fall we clearly decide if he gets a chance or the Colts have to go get someone. Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said: Well I expect Rivers to be back forĀ 2021. Ā 2022 could be interesting. Ā Clearly Rivers play and desire to play will play into that. Ā I think Rivers is in a situation where he goes year to year from now to the end of his career with contracts. Ā Ā Eason is going to have to earn the starting chance in 2022. Ā Itās not unheard of for fourth round draft picks at QB to just be career backups so there is no promise he will get a chance to start. Ā How he performs and just how things fall we clearly decide if he gets a chance or the Colts have to go get someone. Ā Literally the only veteran I would want after Rivers is Rodgers and I am not sure how that's possible yet.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 9 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: Not sure but I think Denver gave up picks to get rid of their QB and his contract. I forgot his name, he played like half the season with Peyton the year they won SB. I think the Brownies were the other team involved? Ah, that would be Mr. Brock Osweiler, the behemoth who got a huge deal with the Texans only to lose the starting role to Tom Savage.Ā Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtJax Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 If he's traded the team who takes him will be getting the draft pick just to eat that salary. I can see the Colts taking a 3rd and his contact. He has a lot of talent, the Eagles have no line and worse WR's. He could do good here, as could Darnold.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danlhart87 Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 2 hours ago, ColtJax said: If he's traded the team who takes him will be getting the draft pick just to eat that salary. I can see the Colts taking a 3rd and his contact. He has a lot of talent, the Eagles have no line and worse WR's. He could do good here, as could Darnold.. I'm afraid both could be damaged goods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted December 25, 2020 Share Posted December 25, 2020 Wentz will be in Philadelphia in 2021. No one in their right mind is going to trade for a guy making over 30 million dollars a year with how poorly he's been playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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