coltsfan77 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Agree with the other poster, a big thanks to Tknight for all the updates! Didn't make the trip from Carolina past few years, and appreciative of the info. Love what we are hearing. Pumped for the new season! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luck 4 president Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 5 hours ago, Valpo2004 said: This. . . In fact I think Andrew Luck said at some point that the biggest difference between NFL ball and college ball was the speed of the linebackers. Which is why Morrison’s time is limited in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, PeterBowman said: ahhhh Painter...the qb who would make me yearn for the days of Scott Tolzien You mean the "day" of Scott Tolzien... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Jared Cisneros said: Loving Deon Cain right now. Seeing his interviews and how he plays. He will be the steal of the entire 2018 draft class. Seems like a very special kid. That very well might wind up being the case. Most of what I've read about him has him as a first or second round talent. I've gone digging to figure out why he dropped -- he served a suspension two years ago at the end of the season, but dropping from Day 1 to the sixth round is pretty dramatic. Seems like teams still had questions about his character, but his ability on the field isn't really an issue. I'm excited about Cain. I like Fountain also, but Cain is the more refined of the two. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Superman said: You mean the "day" of Scott Tolzien... It felt like days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Superman said: You mean the "day" of Scott Tolzien... He got two. Thanksgiving day he looked like he could play, sort of, kind of. Then the week one game last year was so embarrassing, I wonder if he's actually *that* bad or if that was collective thing. No more days of that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, The Fish said: He got two. Thanksgiving day he looked like he could play, sort of, kind of. Then the week one game last year was so embarrassing, I wonder if he's actually *that* bad or if that was collective thing. No more days of that guy. I don't count the Steelers game. That was a fluke. If that game had been on Sunday, Luck probably would have played... They actually planned for Tolzien to play in last year's opener. 11 minutes ago, PeterBowman said: It felt like days It felt like a lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, Superman said: That very well might wind up being the case. Most of what I've read about him has him as a first or second round talent. I've gone digging to figure out why he dropped -- he served a suspension two years ago at the end of the season, but dropping from Day 1 to the sixth round is pretty dramatic. Seems like teams still had questions about his character, but his ability on the field isn't really an issue. I'm excited about Cain. I like Fountain also, but Cain is the more refined of the two. Depends what you read. walterfootball had him as the 21st rated WR, 4-6 round. They had Fountain at 17, also round 4-6. So, from their perspective both guys were drafted in the right spots. At this point, where a guy is drafted is meaningless anyway. But if Cain can use it as motivation, more power to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Smonroe said: Depends what you read. walterfootball had him as the 21st rated WR, 4-6 round. They had Fountain at 17, also round 4-6. So, from their perspective both guys were drafted in the right spots. At this point, where a guy is drafted is meaningless anyway. But if Cain can use it as motivation, more power to him. I agree with Superman. I think early in the process he was in rounds 1 through 3. I had him mocked to us at one time with one of our seconds. But I also noticed as it got closer to draft day pundits had him mocked in later rounds. Like Superman, I never read anything about his character recently. I think I read where he had some questionable drops in college and his hands may have measured small, so maybe NFL scouts thought that would be a chronic issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, Smonroe said: Depends what you read. walterfootball had him as the 21st rated WR, 4-6 round. They had Fountain at 17, also round 4-6. So, from their perspective both guys were drafted in the right spots. At this point, where a guy is drafted is meaningless anyway. But if Cain can use it as motivation, more power to him. I'm not a huge fan of WF, so I wasn't even aware of where they ranked him. But NFL.com's Lance Zierlein had him in rounds 2-3, Matt Miller said 2-3, Todd McShay at one point mocked him to the Packers in the first round, then later to the Titans and Bills in the third round, etc. But like you said, I'm not overly concerned with where he's drafted. Just saying that I think most people who watched him in college recognize him as a really good prospect, and the only reason he lasted so long is off the field concerns. That being the case, I definitely think he represents a steal for the Colts in the 6th round. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 I think the reason Cain dropped is because he didn't have a great year statistically last year because he lost his QB Watson to the draft. He probably could have been a 1st or 2nd. rd. pick himself if he came out with Watson. He stayed for his last year and really didn't produce the numbers. He payed the price but it looks like the talent is there and with Luck we could have hit the lottery. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Thanks very much for the updates everyone! Very informative, seems like a pretty productive 2nd day of camp for the Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Cain seems to be the name that keeps popping up. That’s a really good sign. Rogers and Grant shouldn’t get too comfortable. This kid could could start biting into their reps. I love the competition at WR. Everyone has got to earn it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck 4 president Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Any news on Quentin Nelson?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBlue Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Defjamz26 said: Cain seems to be the name that keeps popping up. That’s a really good sign. Rogers and Grant shouldn’t get too comfortable. This kid could could start biting into their reps. I love the competition at WR. Everyone has got to earn it. Got so many hungry guys looking for things to prove at WR. Rogers trying to step in permanently after flashing for so long. Grant has a chip on his shoulder from being snaked by Baltimore, and Cain trying to make the rest of the league pay for passing on him at least 5 times. Gonna be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernBlue Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 5 hours ago, The Fish said: He got two. Thanksgiving day he looked like he could play, sort of, kind of. Then the week one game last year was so embarrassing, I wonder if he's actually *that* bad or if that was collective thing. No more days of that guy. Bro his first pass attempt against the Steelers was fumble. And then his first pass attempt against the Rams was a freaking pick six. My goodness he was bad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 5 hours ago, richard pallo said: I think the reason Cain dropped is because he didn't have a great year statistically last year because he lost his QB Watson to the draft. He probably could have been a 1st or 2nd. rd. pick himself if he came out with Watson. He stayed for his last year and really didn't produce the numbers. He payed the price but it looks like the talent is there and with Luck we could have hit the lottery. There was buzz that Cain had off the field issues, including marijuana. I think that's more the reason a kid would fall to the 6th round. Lots of baggage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck 4 president Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 hours ago, NorthernBlue said: Bro his first pass attempt against the Steelers was fumble. And then his first pass attempt against the Rams was a freaking pick six. My goodness he was bad He had 2 pick 6s and almost a 3rd on the exact same play lol. Dude can’t throw an out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Luck 4 president said: Any news on Quentin Nelson?? I heard he's big and bad.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 On 7/27/2018 at 11:56 AM, Matthew Gilbert said: I was talking about the "Franklin ran Hines down in college" comment. Trust me, I know all about speed and angles. Your posts would indicate otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Gilbert Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 10 hours ago, Coffeedrinker said: Your posts would indicate otherwise. Roll the tape smart guy and give me your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 13 hours ago, Matthew Gilbert said: Roll the tape smart guy and give me your opinion. Give you my opinion on what? That I don't think you understand angles and speed? I already did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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