Sony Michel is the type RB we need

[Buddy Lee]

I just finished watching the championship game. I also just watched Sony Michel running play replays. He managed to slip through the narrowest holes imaginable to gain important yards. That was something I didn't see from Nick Chubb. 

 

Let's face it, the Colt's OL is lucky to create any running hole at all much less a wide running lane like Trent Richardson was accustomed to in college. IMO Trent was overrated because he was great if he was able to get up a head of steam and run forward. That was Alabama in 2011. When he had to "get skinny" through a hole he was not the guy. 

 

The Colts, nor any FL team for that matter, can make four foot wide running lanes consistently like Alabama could over physically overmatched opponents. 

 

What I saw tonight with Sony Michel is that he found incredibly narrow holes to slip through and gain significant yardage. That is the kind of back the Colts need. Why? Because our OL should be selected based on their pass protection capabilities rather than road grading run blockers. If that is the case, RBs who have the ability to "get skinny" through narrow lanes would be a blessing and should be a focus.

[NewColtsFan]

 

I love Sony Michel.     And I'd love if the Colts picked him.

 

The problem is this.....      I'm hoping that the Colts take an OL with their first pick.      And I'm also hoping that with all of our Day 2 picks, we go defense, defense and more defense.

 

I don't want to spend another high pick on offense.     That's how the Colts got to be how we are in the first place.   We've had bottom 5 defenses the last two years. 

 

So, I'm willing to wait until the top of the 4th where we will likely still get a very good RB.    This is another exceptional class of RB's.      We will likely have our choice of very good RB's in the 4th.

 

But we need to address the defense.    It's long, long overdue.

 

I love Sony Michel,  but I hope we don't take him.     I hope we draft a quality defensive player instead.

 

[Dark Superman]

I wouldn't mind this at all.

[OhioColt]

A 222 pound running back who is also viewed as this draft class fastest RB along with Saquan Barkely.  Has the hands to catch which we covet but heard he needs to work on his pass blocking skills a little. 

 

Have been hoping he falls to Rounds 3-4 but after his strong bowl game showings would imagine he jumps to Round 2.  If so imo would take a top OT like Orlando Brown in Round 1.  Then target what I have long viewed as a Saquan Barkley clone in Sony in Round 2.

[Dark Superman]

I'm still praying for Barkley at 3. But, if that doesn't happen then I would gladly take Michel. I'm also a fan of Love. Could you imagine a backfield that has both Love and Luck? The possibilities!

[UKColt13]

I'd love him on day 2.

 

He'd compliment Mack really well. If we don't take Barkley then I'd love this.

[shasta519]

Yep...Michel looks like the guy to get to be an early-down guy AND an asset in the passing game. If the Colts can trade back a couple spots AND pick up 1-2 extra day two picks, it will go a long way toward having the flexibility to grab a RB like Michel on day two.

 

Michel is similar to Mack...but he seems to run with more power. But I think they work together well.

 

One thing that I have noticed about NE this season (and in years past)...is that they seem to like having two of the same type of player at some of the skill positions. There's Edelman...then there's another slot WR like Amendola. There's Dion Lewis...and then there's other scat backs like James White/Rex Burkhead. There's Cooks...and then there's another speedy WR like Dorsett. I don't know if this was intentional, but I wouldn't surprised if it was. Having that type of depth not only provides insurance for that type of skill set (even if the backup isn't as good as the starter)...but also allows a team to continue mixing it up and keeps the defense guessing.

 

So I don't think Michel being similar to Mack is necessarily a bad thing...especially if McDaniels becomes the HC. If anything, it should help the offense.   

[CopenhagenColt]

Honestly, I think there are plenty of RB's that would serve us really well in this draft.

I'll admit that I don't know everything about Barkley, or any other player in the draft, but how much better would Barkley be, than say Michel (Georgia), Chubb (Georgia), Love (Stanford), Harris (Alabama), Guice (LSU), Johnson (Auburn) or Jones II (USC)?

You can make a case for style of play etc., but lets say that we make a splash in the offsesason and sign Norwell for a ton of cash, wouldn't it make sense to sit back and sign one of the other RB's in the second/third round and fix our O-line with a trade back that would still land us Nelson?

Michel could very well be still be available in, at least the second and not unlikely early in the third round.

[DougDew]

Michel was way better than Chubb.  He was quick to the hole and can't be much slower to the LOS than Barkley.  The RB from Bama was good too.

[DougDew]

1 hour ago, shastamasta said:

 

Michel is similar to Mack...but he seems to run with more power. But I think they work together well.

 

 

  

That's the issue I see.  Would Michel and Mack be repetitive?  Nick Chubb and Mack would complement for sure.  

[shasta519]

17 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Michel was way better than Chubb.  He was quick to the hole and can't be much slower to the LOS than Barkley.  The RB from Bama was good too.

 

Najae Harris is going to be the next big thing in NCAAF. Speed and power.

[crazycolt1]

Christine Michael is a player I haven't seen mentioned at all. He has been on IR and he may come into play at sometime. He don't have great numbers but has looked good at times.

[jameszeigler834]

20 hours ago, Buddy Lee said:

I just finished watching the championship game. I also just watched Sony Michel running play replays. He managed to slip through the narrowest holes imaginable to gain important yards. That was something I didn't see from Nick Chubb. 

 

Let's face it, the Colt's OL is lucky to create any running hole at all much less a wide running lane like Trent Richardson was accustomed to in college. IMO Trent was overrated because he was great if he was able to get up a head of steam and run forward. That was Alabama in 2011. When he had to "get skinny" through a hole he was not the guy. 

 

The Colts, nor any FL team for that matter, can make four foot wide running lanes consistently like Alabama could over physically overmatched opponents. 

 

What I saw tonight with Sony Michel is that he found incredibly narrow holes to slip through and gain significant yardage. That is the kind of back the Colts need. Why? Because our OL should be selected based on their pass protection capabilities rather than road grading run blockers. If that is the case, RBs who have the ability to "get skinny" through narrow lanes would be a blessing and should be a focus.

Bell from the steelers is a big back and he can get skinny and run through narrow gaps too if we take a RB high it no doubt in my mind going to be Barkley.

[NewColtsFan]

2 hours ago, shastamasta said:

Yep...Michel looks like the guy to get to be an early-down guy AND an asset in the passing game. If the Colts can trade back a couple spots AND pick up 1-2 extra day two picks, it will go a long way toward having the flexibility to grab a RB like Michel on day two.

 

Michel is similar to Mack...but he seems to run with more power. But I think they work together well.

 

One thing that I have noticed about NE this season (and in years past)...is that they seem to like having two of the same type of player at some of the skill positions. There's Edelman...then there's another slot WR like Amendola. There's Dion Lewis...and then there's other scat backs like James White/Rex Burkhead. There's Cooks...and then there's another speedy WR like Dorsett. I don't know if this was intentional, but I wouldn't surprised if it was. Having that type of depth not only provides insurance for that type of skill set (even if the backup isn't as good as the starter)...but also allows a team to continue mixing it up and keeps the defense guessing.

 

So I don't think Michel being similar to Mack is necessarily a bad thing...especially if McDaniels becomes the HC. If anything, it should help the offense.   

 

Michel and Mack are somewhat similar in size, but I think their styles are different.

 

I think Michel is a far more complete all around back.   I think he's capable of running inside and out...   he can catch and block...   

 

I believe he's perfectly capable of being our number one back with Mack being our number two...

 

[Defjamz26]

He’s speedy and catches. Seems like what we have in Marlon Mack. Plus I think much like at Georgia, he’ll just be a committee back at the next level.

[ztboiler]

On 1/9/2018 at 1:18 AM, NewColtsFan said:

 

I love Sony Michel.     And I'd love if the Colts picked him.

 

The problem is this.....      I'm hoping that the Colts take an OL with their first pick.      And I'm also hoping that with all of our Day 2 picks, we go defense, defense and more defense.

 

I don't want to spend another high pick on offense.     That's how the Colts got to be how we are in the first place.   We've had bottom 5 defenses the last two years. 

 

So, I'm willing to wait until the top of the 4th where we will likely still get a very good RB.    This is another exceptional class of RB's.      We will likely have our choice of very good RB's in the 4th.

 

But we need to address the defense.    It's long, long overdue.

 

I love Sony Michel,  but I hope we don't take him.     I hope we draft a quality defensive player instead.

 

I'm with you about not using a high pick on a RB, but it seems that the pendulum is swinging a bit to where we have more holes on offense than we used to....and not just the OL.  What we lack on D more than anything is playmakers, our core talent level is much improved...so I'd like to use the 3rd pick to get the elusive pass rusher, if value is there. I'm not too keen on using it for the OL unless a franchise tackle is BPA. 

 

Second round on down, I think we need to stock the shelves on offense as much as defense..... 

[Dark Superman]

When is Michel projected to be drafted?

[bigt]

7 hours ago, Dark Superman said:

When is Michel projected to be drafted?

I’ve seen him projected to go at top of 2nd (32 - 35).  If he makes it to us, he could very well be the BPA.  The added bonus is that Michel would fill a position of need for the Colts. I wasn’t sure if I preferred Chubb or Michel until after I watched Chubb get neutralized by Alabama while Michel always managed to make something out of nothing.  Advantage Michel.

[Dark Superman]

If Michel slips to the second round, he's going early on day two.

[Dark Superman]

On 1/9/2018 at 9:34 PM, NewColtsFan said:

 

Michel and Mack are somewhat similar in size, but I think their styles are different.

 

I think Michel is a far more complete all around back.   I think he's capable of running inside and out...   he can catch and block...   

 

I believe he's perfectly capable of being our number one back with Mack being our number two...

 

Mack shows the ability to run inside and out a bit this season. He showed off his speed, vision, and pass catching ability. Haven't seen much of his blocking skills though.

 

Michel looks like the type of player who can throw a block. I will definitely miss Frank Gores pass blocking skills if he lands on another team next year.

[Dilger85]

On 1/9/2018 at 5:45 PM, shastamasta said:

Yep...Michel looks like the guy to get to be an early-down guy AND an asset in the passing game. If the Colts can trade back a couple spots AND pick up 1-2 extra day two picks, it will go a long way toward having the flexibility to grab a RB like Michel on day two.

 

Michel is similar to Mack...but he seems to run with more power. But I think they work together well.

 

One thing that I have noticed about NE this season (and in years past)...is that they seem to like having two of the same type of player at some of the skill positions. There's Edelman...then there's another slot WR like Amendola. There's Dion Lewis...and then there's other scat backs like James White/Rex Burkhead. There's Cooks...and then there's another speedy WR like Dorsett. I don't know if this was intentional, but I wouldn't surprised if it was. Having that type of depth not only provides insurance for that type of skill set (even if the backup isn't as good as the starter)...but also allows a team to continue mixing it up and keeps the defense guessing.

 

So I don't think Michel being similar to Mack is necessarily a bad thing...especially if McDaniels becomes the HC. If anything, it should help the offense.   

This is where I am at as well.  If they can pick up an extra 2nd then go for it as I think this kid can play every down.

[Dilger85]

On 1/9/2018 at 10:00 PM, Defjamz26 said:

He’s speedy and catches. Seems like what we have in Marlon Mack. Plus I think much like at Georgia, he’ll just be a committee back at the next level.

Kind of agree but he is a play maker and the Colts need play makers on both sides of the ball.  If they can get an extra second then I definitely would be all over this in the early second.

[DaColts85]

On 1/9/2018 at 4:45 PM, shastamasta said:

Yep...Michel looks like the guy to get to be an early-down guy AND an asset in the passing game. If the Colts can trade back a couple spots AND pick up 1-2 extra day two picks, it will go a long way toward having the flexibility to grab a RB like Michel on day two.

 

Michel is similar to Mack...but he seems to run with more power. But I think they work together well.

 

One thing that I have noticed about NE this season (and in years past)...is that they seem to like having two of the same type of player at some of the skill positions. There's Edelman...then there's another slot WR like Amendola. There's Dion Lewis...and then there's other scat backs like James White/Rex Burkhead. There's Cooks...and then there's another speedy WR like Dorsett. I don't know if this was intentional, but I wouldn't surprised if it was. Having that type of depth not only provides insurance for that type of skill set (even if the backup isn't as good as the starter)...but also allows a team to continue mixing it up and keeps the defense guessing.

 

So I don't think Michel being similar to Mack is necessarily a bad thing...especially if McDaniels becomes the HC. If anything, it should help the offense.   

The offense the Patriots run is a quick pace offense.  They have receivers that are more like quick slot guys but they play outside and inside.  They have Gronk as the key big body.  This allows for the WR's and RB's to get open in space very quick because they have quick feet and are typical smaller and agile.  Brady has openings very quick and gets rid of the ball faster allowing for fewer sacks and a better looking line.  This is a system that I have hoped for since we got Luck.  Mainly because we have not had a good line for the last 7 years and our Air Coryell offense has been extremely counter productive.

 

I hope that if we do hire McDaniels he brings this offense with him and we get better linemen to help with protection and running lanes.  Michel would be a perfect fit as well.  He is similar to Mack but imo slightly better and can run with enough power to go between the tackles.  Plus Turbin is a guy that can get 1 or 2 yards when we need that bruiser. 

[stitches]

 

[BleedBlu8792]

6 minutes ago, stitches said:

 

 

I'd say that's about right.. He's kind of this years Dalvin Cook in my opinion. 

[krunk]

I think Penny is going to be real good.  Needs to clean up that pass blocking though.

Penny I like quite a bit.

[IndyScribe]

Yeah, I really want Michel. If we can take him in the third, I'd be fine with him.

[OLD FAN MAN]

On 1/9/2018 at 12:52 AM, Buddy Lee said:

I just finished watching the championship game. I also just watched Sony Michel running play replays. He managed to slip through the narrowest holes imaginable to gain important yards. That was something I didn't see from Nick Chubb. 

 

Let's face it, the Colt's OL is lucky to create any running hole at all much less a wide running lane like Trent Richardson was accustomed to in college. IMO Trent was overrated because he was great if he was able to get up a head of steam and run forward. That was Alabama in 2011. When he had to "get skinny" through a hole he was not the guy. 

 

The Colts, nor any FL team for that matter, can make four foot wide running lanes consistently like Alabama could over physically overmatched opponents. 

 

What I saw tonight with Sony Michel is that he found incredibly narrow holes to slip through and gain significant yardage. That is the kind of back the Colts need. Why? Because our OL should be selected based on their pass protection capabilities rather than road grading run blockers. If that is the case, RBs who have the ability to "get skinny" through narrow lanes would be a blessing and should be a focus.

something to think about

[richard pallo]

I am starting to think Barclay will not be there when we pick.  I think Cleveland might acquire a veteran QB and draft Barclay 1st.  If that happens I think we will trade back a few spots and we will draft defense with our 1st. pick.  Then I will be pulling for Michel or Guice with one of our two second picks.  

[chad72]

On 1/9/2018 at 9:03 PM, crazycolt1 said:

Christine Michael is a player I haven't seen mentioned at all. He has been on IR and he may come into play at sometime. He don't have great numbers but has looked good at times.

 

He never caught on to a team because all he could do is run and a lot of times did not know which side of the QB to line up, know the plays called correctly or pass protect. I wouldn't want him on the Colts.

[crazycolt1]

43 minutes ago, chad72 said:

 

He never caught on to a team because all he could do is run and a lot of times did not know which side of the QB to line up, know the plays called correctly or pass protect. I wouldn't want him on the Colts.

He is already on the Colts. They evidently have in mind for something. Just saying.

[chad72]

12 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

He is already on the Colts. They evidently have in mind for something. Just saying.

 

We will see how long he lasts. Seahawks, Packers, and now Colts...

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

We will see how long he lasts. Seahawks, Packers, and now Colts...

I know. I just found it interesting the Colts thought well enough of him to put him on IR in the first place. Maybe he will be given a chance in camp? Who knows at this point?