TKnight24 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yeah....... he's outta there for at least a month. If Pagano says week to week, it's worse than expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaColts85 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Still better to hear than a tear or anything that keeps him out all season. We will have patchwork in there for the first 4 games it looks like, and continues to get worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Joe Haden was pretty awful last year but we may have no choice but to trade for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Yup, "pretty signifcant" are the key words there too. Has he said anything about needing or not needing surgery? We probably wouldn't here if he needs it until he's just about to have it or has already had it, so I won't be surprised there either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TKnight24 Posted August 29, 2017 Author Share Posted August 29, 2017 QB Controversy!!!!! Starters don't play week 4 of pre-season, finally living up to their words that competition is gonna be here in indy Now we can firmly say this was true. This camp was the most competitive camp in the Andrew Luck era Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfeva Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 So far, nobody is out for the season. Hoping it stays that way. Despite multiple injuries to key players, we're better off than a lot of teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfunky14 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, TKnight24 said: QB Controversy!!!!! Starters don't play week 4 of pre-season, finally living up to their words that competition is gonna be here in indy Now we can firmly say this was true. This camp was the most competitive camp in the Andrew Luck era If Tolzien starts preseason game 4 and plays a significant amount of snaps.HMMMMMMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaColts85 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, TKnight24 said: QB Controversy!!!!! Starters don't play week 4 of pre-season, finally living up to their words that competition is gonna be here in indy Now we can firmly say this was true. This camp was the most competitive camp in the Andrew Luck era I see this as the opposite. Tolzein starts the game and then Morris comes in again after him. Just additional snaps for Tolzein, even though this is week 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 If Scott Tolzien and Stephen Morris play, is that good news for Andrew Luck week 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devildog Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said: Joe Haden was pretty awful last year but we may have no choice but to trade for him. Anybody would be awful, too, if they played for the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Just now, Devildog said: Anybody would be awful, too, if they played for the Browns. That's not a good excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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will426 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Ha I knew Davis would be out with an injury it figures smh swear everytime he makes a small tackle he gets hurt but when he unloads he perfectly fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Cut Davis, trade for Haden. We've gotten all that we're going to get out of Vontae, this is (I believe) 3 years in a row that he hasn't even made it out of training camp without some type of "week-to-week" inury that sidelines him for the first month of the regular season. It's a bummer, but he's become a liability at this point, and there are some better options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 11 minutes ago, coltsfeva said: So far, nobody is out for the season. Hoping it stays that way. Despite multiple injuries to key players, we're better off than a lot of teams. yep, Colts could be Baltimore or San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Cut Davis, trade for Haden. We've gotten all that we're going to get out of Vontae, this is (I believe) 3 years in a row that he hasn't even made it out of training camp without some type of "week-to-week" inury that sidelines him for the first month of the regular season. It's a bummer, but he's become a liability at this point, and there are some better options available. I'd agree but haden sucks too and is much smaller he's been bullied last couple years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 I expect the defense to play zone and suffer until Davis is back because we all know they don't play man when he's not playing lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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coltsfeva Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, will426 said: Ha I knew Davis would be out with an injury it figures smh swear everytime he makes a small tackle he gets hurt but when he unloads he perfectly fine Are you seriously complaining that we're "stuck " with Vonte Davis? Really??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisticuffs111 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 Okay, no surgery for Vontae. I don't put it past him to come back before he's 100% either, he plays hurt a lot, to his credit. But yeah, his time with us is looking like it's possibly coming to an end. We won't cut him, or I doubt we would, because he'll be useful if and when he comes back. And who knows, maybe he'll be really cheap to bring back after all these injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, will426 said: I expect the defense to play zone and suffer until Davis is back because we all know they don't play man when he's not playing lol At least we have the Rams, Browns, and 49ers in 3 of the first 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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csmopar Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 30 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said: Joe Haden was pretty awful last year but we may have no choice but to trade for him. 11 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Cut Davis, trade for Haden. We've gotten all that we're going to get out of Vontae, this is (I believe) 3 years in a row that he hasn't even made it out of training camp without some type of "week-to-week" inury that sidelines him for the first month of the regular season. It's a bummer, but he's become a liability at this point, and there are some better options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 10 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Cut Davis, trade for Haden. We've gotten all that we're going to get out of Vontae, this is (I believe) 3 years in a row that he hasn't even made it out of training camp without some type of "week-to-week" inury that sidelines him for the first month of the regular season. It's a bummer, but he's become a liability at this point, and there are some better options available. The Colts need Vontae, he's the best CB on the team... Why would they cut him? Might as well try and trade Dorsett for Joe if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhere ovr the Waynebow Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 This talk of cutting Vontae is genuinely crazy. I'm not sure this team can win a game missing Davis, Kelly and Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, coltsfeva said: Are you seriously complaining that we're "stuck " with Vonte Davis? Really??? No I'm not complaining that we're "stuck" lol I'm simply noting that he seems to always get nagging injuries almost EVERY season I've said it in many threads that I figured he'd get injured before he even has gotten hurt and what do you know..not happy about it but it does get a bit tiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 minute ago, Smitto said: The Colts need Vontae, he's the best CB on the team... Why would they cut him? Might as well try and trade Dorsett for Joe if anything. Because the 9-10 games we'll get out of him this year, he'll only healthy for about 5 of them, but struggle to cover in the others, and he's making $10mil. If they cut him, they save $9mil. There's no doubt that he's the best corner on the team, no one is debating that, but it doesn't mean much if he can't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 "Keep it 100".. uhh, what Chuck? Between Luck, Kelly and Davis I'm going to say that we, not Bmore or SD own this third circle of injury hell currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, Bluefire4 said: At least we have the Rams, Browns, and 49ers in 3 of the first 6 weeks. Yeah you're right but if we play zone I'm certain we're going to get eaten alive by all of them somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 45 minutes ago, TKnight24 said: Yeah....... he's outta there for at least a month. If Pagano says week to week, it's worse than expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, will426 said: Yeah you're right but if we play zone I'm certain we're going to get eaten alive by all of them somehow If we could reshuffle the season around, I'm thinking I'd love to put some of those easier games towards the end of the season, take the medicine now, since we're likely to anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 thing with Davis is although he doesn't miss many games he gets those lingering injuries which causes him to struggle vs garbage receivers..so yes he can come back will he be 100% most likely not and that will hinder us..he's still the best corner on the team injured but regardless his injury could prove to be a liability as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitto Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Because the 9-10 games we'll get out of him this year, he'll only healthy for about 5 of them, but struggle to cover in the others, and he's making $10mil. If they cut him, they save $9mil. There's no doubt that he's the best corner on the team, no one is debating that, but it doesn't mean much if he can't play. Like they said he fights through his injuries and has only mist 9 games out of 80... Doesn't sound like 9-10 games to me... Teams barely pick on him. Colts cannot afford to just cut him and get a player whose no better than him.. Especially with the lack of pressure they colts apply the secondary would get ripped to shreds with him gone... Until Wilson and Hooker step up of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 doubt we trade for Haden. Sizable contract, lack of availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHColtfan Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 1 minute ago, will426 said: Yeah you're right but if we play zone I'm certain we're going to get eaten alive by all of them somehow We manage to make every QB look like the next Brady. How many mediocre QB's have sliced and diced us over the last couple of years, and we aren't looking dramatically improved so far this year. If Davis is out for more than a few weeks, that is going to be quite a few injuries to carry on the 53. We will be paper thin at some spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crush22 Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Fish said: "Keep it 100".. uhh, what Chuck? Between Luck, Kelly and Davis I'm going to say that we, not Bmore or SD own this third circle of injury hell currently. I think this is what he meant............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 29 minutes ago, Steamboat_Shaun said: Cut Davis, trade for Haden. We've gotten all that we're going to get out of Vontae, this is (I believe) 3 years in a row that he hasn't even made it out of training camp without some type of "week-to-week" inury that sidelines him for the first month of the regular season. It's a bummer, but he's become a liability at this point, and there are some better options available. You can't cut him if he can't pass a physical, and his salary goes guaranteed on 9/5, so that's not happening. Might as well ride it out, let him get healthy, and hopefully he'll be back within a month or two. But we can't re-sign him, IMO. I was already on the fence, and now I'm pretty firmly in 'let him walk' territory. And that's too bad, because he's really good when he's healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 29, 2017 Share Posted August 29, 2017 24 minutes ago, Fisticuffs111 said: Okay, no surgery for Vontae. Yet. Same thing with Ryan Kelly.They wanted to see if he would get better without surgery, and after a couple weeks he went ahead with a procedure. Hopefully Davis doesn't wind up needing surgery, but I don't think anyone has said or can say definitively that he won't need surgery. And that would be disastrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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