Pep Hamilton vs Rob Ryan

[TKnight24]

So, everyone knows the Ryan's brothers are pretty smart DC.

How do you guys think Pep will do against Rob's defensive mind?

With all the weapons we have, we gotta spread the Saints out. Loved Kenny Vaccaro at Texas, but take it from me he's shakey at times in coverage so hoping Pep takes some shots towards him this game

[1959Colts]

Yeah... Pep really showed Rob a thing or two.

[TKnight24]

Yeah... Pep really showed Rob a thing or two.

Yeah but like my OP stated, Vaccaro is shakey in coverage. Fleener had him beat but a terrible under throw by Andrew gave Kenny the interception

[mintor]

 Pep really showed Rob a thing or two. Called go back too college  he be longs.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

 Called go back too college  he be longs.

 

Nice one.

[akcolt]

My opinion hasn't changed from last year Pep is not a NFL OC 

[GoColts8818]

It's pre-season while they game plan some, and the keyword is some they still don't do a full game plan for the third game, it's still glorified practice, They are trying things out seeing what works and what doesn't and trying to find answers to problems like is there anyway in the world the Colts can run the ball and get hard yards. Honestly if this had been a real game both goal line drives by the Colts would have played out differently. The first Richardson would have been I there and not Bradshaw to try to pound it in or Luck might have tried to bulldoze in from a yard out, they wanted to see if Bradshaw could and they aren't going to expose Luck to contact like that in a pre-season game. Then on the one Hasslebeck lead I doubt the Colts call four straight runs in the regular season. Pep was looking for plays and players that work I short yardage situations more than he was trying to score there.

You can't put too much stock into these games they are much more about figuring things out than they are the score bored. Also if Pep has some perfect play call or something tricky for a very good defense he's not going to bust it out in pre-season and put it on film for the whole world to see. He's going to save it for a game that counts, so I don't think you got a full pep vs ryan coaching show down tonight.

[chrisfarley]

anyone think that Peyton is already studying Manusky's playbook?  It's Manning vs. Manusky, make no mistake.

[TKnight24]

It's pre-season while they game plan some, and the keyword is some they still don't do a full game plan for the third game, it's still glorified practice, They are trying things out seeing what works and what doesn't and trying to find answers to problems like is there anyway in the world the Colts can run the ball and get hard yards. Honestly if this had been a real game both goal line drives by the Colts would have played out differently. The first Richardson would have been I there and not Bradshaw to try to pound it in or Luck might have tried to bulldoze in from a yard out, they wanted to see if Bradshaw could and they aren't going to expose Luck to contact like that in a pre-season game. Then on the one Hasslebeck lead I doubt the Colts call four straight runs in the regular season. Pep was looking for plays and players that work I short yardage situations more than he was trying to score there.

You can't put too much stock into these games they are much more about figuring things out than they are the score bored. Also if Pep has some perfect play call or something tricky for a very good defense he's not going to bust it out in pre-season and put it on film for the whole world to see. He's going to save it for a game that counts, so I don't think you got a full pep vs ryan coaching show down tonight.

Pep should know from last year what doesn't work.... Yet I still see us lining up with a FB screaming we're about to run the ball

[C0LT5]

It's pre-season while they game plan some, and the keyword is some they still don't do a full game plan for the third game, it's still glorified practice, They are trying things out seeing what works and what doesn't and trying to find answers to problems like is there anyway in the world the Colts can run the ball and get hard yards. Honestly if this had been a real game both goal line drives by the Colts would have played out differently. The first Richardson would have been I there and not Bradshaw to try to pound it in or Luck might have tried to bulldoze in from a yard out, they wanted to see if Bradshaw could and they aren't going to expose Luck to contact like that in a pre-season game. Then on the one Hasslebeck lead I doubt the Colts call four straight runs in the regular season. Pep was looking for plays and players that work I short yardage situations more than he was trying to score there.

You can't put too much stock into these games they are much more about figuring things out than they are the score bored. Also if Pep has some perfect play call or something tricky for a very good defense he's not going to bust it out in pre-season and put it on film for the whole world to see. He's going to save it for a game that counts, so I don't think you got a full pep vs ryan coaching show down tonight.

 

I hope you are right.

[Steamboat_Shaun]

Yeah... Pep really showed Rob a thing or two.

 

Watch Rob's face on that TD to Fleener. Pep definitely got the best of him there. 

[jvan1973]

My opinion hasn't changed from last year Pep is not a NFL OC

His job title disagrees with you

[jvan1973]

anyone think that Peyton is already studying Manusky's playbook? It's Manning vs. Manusky, make no mistake.

You know he is. Doesn't mean the broncos can't be had

[crazycolt1]

anyone think that Peyton is already studying Manusky's playbook?  It's Manning vs. Manusky, make no mistake.

:offtopic:

[crazycolt1]

 Pep really showed Rob a thing or two. Called go back too college  he be longs.

Maybe you need to go back to grade school and learn how to structure a sentence.

[akcolt]

His job title disagrees with you

Job titles are often times misleading.

[jvan1973]

Job titles are often times misleading.

Not in this case. He is in fact an NFL coach

[Gavin]

His job title disagrees with you

Anyone can have a job title, Some jobs even state they don't require you to have experience even, Being good at said jobs actually what counts not the job title itself

[jvan1973]

Anyone can have a job title, Some jobs even state they don't require you to have experience even, Being good at said jobs actually what counts not the job title itself

That is rarely the case in the nfl. Not all coaches work out in every situation But everyone of them is a good coach, or they wouldn't have been hired to begin with

[Gavin]

That is rarely the case in the nfl. Not all coaches work out in every situation But everyone of them is a good coach, or they wouldn't have been hired to begin with

That depends who it is and what there job title is, Not every coach is a good coach/coordinator in the league, Much of that is because they are not willing to adjust to the talent around them...Though some coordinators just get stuck with QB's that have no business being a back up let alone a starter...Blaine Gabbert, Those are the best coaches, Jim Harbaugh for example, Great overall head coach, Jason Garrett better offensive coordinator then head coach

[Gavin]

From a  schematic standpoint it should be a big help if Pep also knew what passing over the middle of the field meant...Forcing those ILB's to peel back and then its just a matter of our interior O Line opening up holes....74 of Lucks 567 pass attempts last year were over the middle of the field, I'd like to see less sideline passes and more play designs and passes to take advantage of Linebackers....13% is not near of Lucks passes over the middle of the field......That's also where Luck averaged his highest yards per play average and 2nd highest completion of passes percentage

[krunk]

It's pre-season while they game plan some, and the keyword is some they still don't do a full game plan for the third game, it's still glorified practice, They are trying things out seeing what works and what doesn't and trying to find answers to problems like is there anyway in the world the Colts can run the ball and get hard yards. Honestly if this had been a real game both goal line drives by the Colts would have played out differently. The first Richardson would have been I there and not Bradshaw to try to pound it in or Luck might have tried to bulldoze in from a yard out, they wanted to see if Bradshaw could and they aren't going to expose Luck to contact like that in a pre-season game. Then on the one Hasslebeck lead I doubt the Colts call four straight runs in the regular season. Pep was looking for plays and players that work I short yardage situations more than he was trying to score there.

You can't put too much stock into these games they are much more about figuring things out than they are the score bored. Also if Pep has some perfect play call or something tricky for a very good defense he's not going to bust it out in pre-season and put it on film for the whole world to see. He's going to save it for a game that counts, so I don't think you got a full pep vs ryan coaching show down tonight.

 

 

 

Thank You!

[krunk]

Some people just like to rag on Pep.  If he adjusts one thing then they will find something else to complain about.

If he adjusts the next thing then they nitpick on something else.  After 1 year with only 1 tight end, no Wrs, a bad offensive line, and no running game how can you fully know if someone is not an NFL Offensive Coordinator?

 

It takes a whole lot more than Luck to dictate what type of plays are being called. He's got a whole lot more to work with this year in my opinion.  I'lll pass my judgements during and after this season.

[jvan1973]

That depends who it is and what there job title is, Not every coach is a good coach/coordinator in the league, Much of that is because they are not willing to adjust to the talent around them...Though some coordinators just get stuck with QB's that have no business being a back up let alone a starter...Blaine Gabbert, Those are the best coaches, Jim Harbaugh for example, Great overall head coach, Jason Garrett better offensive coordinator then head coach

Every coach in the NFL is very qualified fir their job. There are no failed high school coaches in the NFL. The end

[Bobbycovert]

From a  schematic standpoint it should be a big help if Pep also knew what passing over the middle of the field meant...Forcing those ILB's to peel back and then its just a matter of our interior O Line opening up holes....74 of Lucks 567 pass attempts last year were over the middle of the field, I'd like to see less sideline passes and more play designs and passes to take advantage of Linebackers....13% is not near of Lucks passes over the middle of the field......That's also where Luck averaged his highest yards per play average and 2nd highest completion of passes percentage

 

Really nice info here.  Do you think the distribution of passes is more the result of play calling or QB decision making here?  I mean, have you noticed a lack of routes over the middle?

[Gavin]

[Gavin]

Every coach in the NFL is very qualified fir their job. There are no failed high school coaches in the NFL. The end

Qualifying and being good once you qualify is two separate things in the NFL...Or actually any job in life, you can be qualified to be for example a defensive coordinator but if your constantly asking an interior linebacker to line up on a slot wr or in some cases an outside wr then those qualifications don't hold as much water because sticking most Linebackers out on a WR is at the very best lack of knowing your personnel strength or at least said player because most Linebackers just cant do that. Also its not always about being qualified, In many cases its about supply and demand and in many cases as well taking what is left because you don't have better "in house". And again that hire has to show that he is qualified, Its one thing to get the job, Its another to keep it and be good at it

[Gavin]

Really nice info here.  Do you think the distribution of passes is more the result of play calling or QB decision making here?  I mean, have you noticed a lack of routes over the middle?

I cant pin point it to 1 thing, I think its a bit of both Luck not going that way often and lack of routes ran over the middle, Though with that said the post you quoted I am referring to last year and not anything I have seen this preseason, Way to early right now to judge our offensive philosophy this year and playcalling. Supposedly we have not seen what Pep intends to really do this season. Our offensive weapons dictate we pass to set up the run, I know one thing and that's that I want to see Linebackers having to catch one of our receivers and tire them out and work in the run game off that

[throwing BBZ]

So, everyone knows the Ryan's brothers are pretty smart DC.

How do you guys think Pep will do against Rob's defensive mind?

With all the weapons we have, we gotta spread the Saints out. Loved Kenny Vaccaro at Texas, but take it from me he's shakey at times in coverage so hoping Pep takes some shots towards him this game

 

So, everyone knows the Ryan's brothers are pretty smart DC.

How do you guys think Pep will do against Rob's defensive mind?

With all the weapons we have, we gotta spread the Saints out. Loved Kenny Vaccaro at Texas, but take it from me he's shakey at times in coverage so hoping Pep takes some shots towards him this game

 

 I expected Pep to keep it pretty Vanilla and to keep working on our run game and things we most need to improve on.