Mameluc Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Wonder who offered more. Maybe Denver?probably..they have a huge need at ILB and defensive leadership with champ departure. also i read horton was the hook for jackson-titans reunion but chuck won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts8718 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 He overpaid for Richardson now he overpaid for another Brown hope he gets this one right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of Luck Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I understand people's knack against Pagano, I really do. Questionable Timeouts, bad challenges, bad 4th down decisions, starting the wrong player etc etc. But at the end of the day I think we can all agree that his players love playing for him. I've rarely seen a locker room that's as close to each other as the Colts. The "adversity" they all faced together brought them closer and laid one heck of a foundation for our dynasty to be built on. I see very bright things in the future. D'qwell turned down more money elsewhere to come to the Colts. That's all Pags/Chud right there and a little bit of Luck. Who wouldn't want to come join the Colts? In our first 2 "rebuilding" years we have been 11-5 and with a playoff win, that's amazing for a team that was 2-14 2 years ago. I give a lot of credit to Chuck and think more people should, he was like a rookie coach last year anyways, he was gone for most of that first year. Now on the signing, I think it's a good one, maybe even great but we will have to wait and see.I think the money is a bit much, but that's the nature of FA. We even got $9 more cap space from league-wide increase. This is money spent that we never even thought we would have. Now cut Satele/Sheppard and we are right back where we were with even a little more. We just got another leader on that defense which is awesome and a reliable tackling machine(4th most tackles in NFL last year). Now go get BYRD! I love all of this and totally agree. Except... I still dont think 11 mil guarenteed over 2 years is "a bit much." Obviously, we wont know til we see him play if hes worth it, but it seems like a fair value for a good veteran player with a great personality and leadership, for a position that we need to get filled. And of course if we cut Satelle and/or someone else, we can make up that extra cash. Still have PLENTY of room for our other needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mameluc Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 My Colts Account @MyColtsAccount 8mD'Qwell Jackson's new contract makes him the 14th highest paid ILB (was 9th). Most below him are on rookies contract, so that's about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 He overpaid for Richardson now he overpaid for another Brown hope he gets this one right How much should he have been paid then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of Luck Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 He overpaid for Richardson now he overpaid for another Brown hope he gets this one right Lets not do this again please. Wait til next season to make that determination on Trent. My Colts Account @MyColtsAccount 8mD'Qwell Jackson's new contract makes him the 14th highest paid ILB (was 9th). Most below him are on rookies contract, so that's about right. Makes perfect sense. Like I said, seems like a fair deal. The best deals are where both guys meet in the middle, seems like thats exactly what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 How much should he have been paid then?$1. Because if a team pays any free agent more than that people lose their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I am just happy the Colts were able to 'dispel' the D'Quell rumor. Thus we need not dwell on D'Quell being anywhere but Indy for a couple of years. I hope it works out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 $1. Because if a team pays any free agent more than that people lose their minds. boy it would be nice if we could sign players for a buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colts_100nascar17fan Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Smart first move of off season, lets keep the smart signings going! Dquell will not be another former browns player flop like trich. Huge upgrade at linebacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 The cap was raised, and like it's pointed out it's essentially a 2 year deal. Think of it as if the cap hadn't been raised.Also, if Satele is cut (very likely) it'll basically be a swap. Jackson for Satele.Still have plenty of cap space (5th most after the Jackson signing, 4th or close to if Satele is cut) to sign Vontae and other FAs. Does anyone have contract details. If most of the guaranteed money is in the first 2 year's salary then you are right. The key number here is the signing bonus which goes for all 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 boy it would be nice if we could sign players for a buckI would just like to hear the conversation between a G.M. and a Player for a $1 contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iancolts Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Byrd dreams again? Lol Byrd will only ce if the money is right! He already put it out there that being the highest paid safety is not enough. I don't think the Bills are that dumb just to let Byrd walk. He wanted way way too too much that's why they didn't even bother tagging him. I would much rather resign Bethea to a cap friendly deal and draft a safety. Then maybe with all the money left over we can sign One center and Two guards that can start and improve our line! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 $1. Because if a team pays any free agent more than that people lose their minds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I love all of this and totally agree. Except... I still dont think 11 mil guarenteed over 2 years is "a bit much." Obviously, we wont know til we see him play if hes worth it, but it seems like a fair value for a good veteran player with a great personality and leadership, for a position that we need to get filled. And of course if we cut Satelle and/or someone else, we can make up that extra cash. Still have PLENTY of room for our other needs.You're probably right. I just looked over LB money/contracts and it looks like we got him for what he's worth. Mostly rookie contracts after his. His deal is very close to Elvis Dumervil's and I think they are pretty similar players as well. Some team(s) obviously feel he's worth even more. I think all these people saying he got overpaid is getting to me . But yeah, once again we need to wait and see him on the field to determine if it's a good move or not. Next on my list of FAs to get: Byrd, Dietrich-Smith, Browner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Byrd dreams again? Lol Byrd will only ce if the money is right! He already put it out there that being the highest paid safety is not enough. I don't think the Bills are that dumb just to let Byrd walk. He wanted way way too too much that's why they didn't even bother tagging him. I would much rather resign Bethea to a cap friendly deal and draft a safety. Then maybe with all the money left over we can sign One center and Two guards that can start and improve our line!I honestly think Byrd didn't want to stay in Buffalo period. He may take an identical contract that was offered by Buffalo, just to get out of Buffalo. Then again I have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of Luck Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Lets just hope good news on Vontae comes down today too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 11 mil guaranteed .. he will be 31... not that great in run defense. I hope he works out, but from what we got last year in FA and IMO payed way too much for avg players seems like we are over paying again avg player.. How appropriate that this was your 666 post. Relax, we did not overpay last year and we have not with Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Byrd dreams again? Lol Byrd will only ce if the money is right! He already put it out there that being the highest paid safety is not enough. I don't think the Bills are that dumb just to let Byrd walk. He wanted way way too too much that's why they didn't even bother tagging him. I would much rather resign Bethea to a cap friendly deal and draft a safety. Then maybe with all the money left over we can sign One center and Two guards that can start and improve our line!He should prolly be the number one target for us to be honest. Right now we don't even have a FS we got 2 SS. Also you have to think Byrd just wanted out of Buffalo he did last year too but they tagged him. So you never know he could have turned down any offer they gave him no matter how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Byrd dreams again? Lol Byrd will only ce if the money is right! He already put it out there that being the highest paid safety is not enough. I don't think the Bills are that dumb just to let Byrd walk. He wanted way way too too much that's why they didn't even bother tagging him. I would much rather resign Bethea to a cap friendly deal and draft a safety. Then maybe with all the money left over we can sign One center and Two guards that can start and improve our line! I really think he just didn't want to play for the Bills anymore. Losing and playing the cold would wear down on anyone. I believe he deserves to be the highest paid safety, next to Earl Thomas, and he would be completely worth it. I'm all for drafting a safety too(Trade up and get Pryor PLEASE) though, but I really like Byrd, he's a beast and would pair up great with Landry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaric Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 It's like 3% of our cap. Some folks need to chill the freak out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I'm glad we addressed ILB in FA. The contract seems fair for both sides. I don't really like the fact that he'll be 31 in Sept., but he should be able to give us a at least a couple of good years, so I'm not overly concerned with this signing. Just have to wait and see how it pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 ...lets be honest...the only money that really matters is the guaranteed money. Wisdom shouts loud in the streets. ;) Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertjones#1 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Smart first move of off season, lets keep the smart signings going! Dquell will not be another former browns player flop like trich. Huge upgrade at linebacker.I totally agree its a HUGE upgrade .... would love to see an upgrade at safety next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draztik Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I like the signing, a vet to help Freeman out and mentor our young MLB's. The contract is not bad at all especially if the first 2 years are the guaranteed years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 4 minBenefit of being financially set like D’Qwell: You can choose a team based on where you want to be. I'm told he turned down more elsewhere Let that set in folks... A player took less money to come and play here. -grin- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 The free agent market for LBs this year sucks. This is probably the best option, all things considered. Ehhh I'd think Daryl Smith is a better LB and would've been a better fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BpG Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Let that set in folks... A player took less money to come and play here. -grin- When your other options are Tennessee (not good, no QB) and Miami (A complete and utter disaster). It's a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of Luck Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Stampede Blue is crapping all over this deal. So frustrating... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thanks Gavin! 35 mill plus if we cut Toler and Satele puts us back at 40 plus woohoo For the umpteen-millionth time....WE ARE NOT CUTTING TOLER. Oivey.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't play this contract out. A little too much up front, and a little too long. All in all, I wouldn't have done this, but it's not terrible, and D'Qwell can play the run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 You dead from asphyxiation yet ? Bingo, every FA's worth is easy to judge in hindsight. I'd be interested to see how the deal has been structured but it's not massive contract by any means and fills a need. "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Jackson is a good player and would be an upgrade but seems to be overpaid by a 3 or 4 mil. Now if this move helps us get Alex Mack i'm all for it. If your a free agent and want to get overpaid and win then the Colts is the perfect destination. We're not getting Alex Mack let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" Ha we're agreeing more and more on things lately Brian, I must be getting more cantankerous with age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelCityColt Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Stampede Blue is crapping all over this deal. So frustrating... Brad Wells... say no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Byrd dreams again? Lol Byrd will only ce if the money is right! He already put it out there that being the highest paid safety is not enough. I don't think the Bills are that dumb just to let Byrd walk. He wanted way way too too much that's why they didn't even bother tagging him. I would much rather resign Bethea to a cap friendly deal and draft a safety. Then maybe with all the money left over we can sign One center and Two guards that can start and improve our line! It's like 3% of our cap. Some folks need to chill the freak out. I'm glad we addressed ILB in FA. The contract seems fair for both sides. I don't really like the fact that he'll be 31 in Sept., but he should be able to give us a at least a couple of good years, so I'm not overly concerned with this signing. Just have to wait and see how it pans out. "You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Stampede Blue is crapping all over this deal. So frustrating... Guaranteeing that this was a perfect signing. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ha we're agreeing more and more on things lately Brian, I must be getting cantankerous with age Smarter ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snkdy Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 We're not getting Alex Mack let it go. We're not getting Byrd either imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ehhh I'd think Daryl Smith is a better LB and would've been a better fit.You know I agree with this one....since I said it in yesterday's thread. I feel we acted because we 'may have known' or had an inclination Smith will stay with the Ravens and Dansby the Cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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