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I do respect that about Andrew. His singular laser beam like focus on winning football games. Luck could care less about his social media presence on the worldwide web. He does not need the latest iPhone. He understands 1 fundamental principle: Go to work, hone your craft, uplift your organization & teammates whenever possible, & the perks will take care of themselves once your reputation as a smart, relentless player has been earned. 

 

It's really refreshing to see my team's QB get it. The latest piece of technology means nothing. I have to admit that it really irritates me when advertisers in society treat you like you're worthless if you don't have or can't afford the newest gizmos from phones, to cars, to computers. I just really respect a guy who is comfortable in his own skin, doing things his own way, & he won't think any less of a person if they do not own a phone, car, or computer. Andrew Luck is very humble & that is his greatest asset IMHO. 

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Cause he's good... Curtis Painter could have all the dedication in the world but..

It's not just a matter of being good AllYouNeedIsLuck...It's quiet confidence that oozes out of his pours not to be confused with showboating. I love how he always slaps pass rushers on the helmet & says "nice hit."  haha

 

Plus, he never believes his own press glowing or otherwise & I love the idea of him growing up in Germany & being exposed to a non-pro American mindset while his father played QB in NFL Europe. There's nothing wrong with the U.S. perse it's just nice to see different cultures, cuisines, languages, bartering systems, currencies, & a different economy just to learn that America does always have all the right answers either. 

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One last thing: I really admire Luck's amnesia especially after he throws a pick. He's a lot Eli Manning in this regard. Andrew can just shake off an interception like a duck shaking water off it's back.

 

He doesn't dwell on the bad throw even if it isn't his fault; Luck won't throw his teammate under the bus. Luck will take the blame for it & shield his teammate from any shrapnel that may follow courtesy of the media backlash. That's the mark of a genuine leader: Remove any criticism from your teammates even if they created the actual turnover. If they see that Andrew has their back; they will have his & this selflessness means you don't give a darn who gets credit for 1st down plays or TDs & you are well on your way to a World Championship.

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In contrast to RG3, Luck also appears to understand the danger of over exposure & the value of keeping a low endorsement/media profile. LBs, DE's, & Safeties respect gritty, tough, football players not pretty boys that are plastered on every billboard or Subway commercial imaginable especially when they haven't played QB for 8 seasons or so. If I was a pass rusher, I would take every opportunity to slam RG3 to the turf hard as often as possible regardless of an extra yellow flag or 2.

 

Look, both RG3 & Luck are tremendous talents on the field. I just respect guys like Luck more who realize that they really haven't achieved anything of NFL significance yet. Okay, to be fair, RG3 won the NFC East Division last year & that is a nice feather in his cap. I won't take that accomplishment away from him or the Redskins. I just hate seeing RG3 in every other TV commercial like he just won the SB or something. It just rubs me the wrong way I guess. Luck, on the other hand, decided to prove his NFL credentials before he did any commercials & I really admire that personally. 

 

I just think you can chalk part of the RG3 phase to being the latest version of Michael Vick with speed, elusiveness, & a cannon for an arm. But, Luck is strong, fast enough on his feet, & can fire live rounds in his 50 caliber arm when necessary too. 

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I also like when Andrew Luck grows his beard too. It just screams "I ain't pretty to look at but I get the job done. I may look like a tool but I am the right tool for the job."

 

That neck beard may not get Andrew the cover of GQ, but the Star Wars Chewbacca look kicks caboose & never has an expiration date IMO. Han Solo to Chewy: "Laugh it up fuzz ball!"  :lol:  :funny:  lmao

 

Besides, too many QBs in the NFL are clean shaven baby faces who need to embrace this sinister facial hair side. Even Aaron Rodgers looks like a sharp dressed lumberjack in Nov. & Dec. man. Cue ZZ Top...

 

 

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My friend Jules came up with the phrase "Adorkable" to describe Andrew Luck & SW1 always liked that term. Why? Well, because nerd is a distinct style & preserving a flip phone & going against the grain or current trends is a specific mindset that I go against myself a lot.

 

It's just cool when my QB doesn't give a crap about texting or taking pictures. He just uses his phone to talk & listen...Wow, what a novel concept eh? LOL!  ;)  :thmup:

 

Sometimes more is just more stuff to go wrong IMO. Never lose your inner geek Andrew...Be who you truly are...

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Personally, I love the neck beard! I'm hoping he goes full Chewbacca with it at some point. That will send all of the talking heads into a frenzy.

As far as RG3 goes, I know he's a really talented young man, but I'm tired of his face. All summer his face was all over the sports channels. Every. Frickin'. Day. I'm tired of his face, his knee, his braids, his voice, his press conferences, his Subway sandwiches... It makes me want to lay waste to the planet. Just totally burn the whole thing down. And then I remember I can change the channel...and there he is AGAIN!!

There's no escaping Robert Griffin III.

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I like Luck because he makes the team perform well.

 

I like him even more for his personality, like when he was on sound fx i thought it was amazing how much responsibility he took when something bad happened. Plus when the D Lineman hit him he even said "nice hit". I don't mind it if your QB or players for that matter go on social media or have endorsements but i do mind it when the money gets to them and they lose the love of the game. That will probably never happen to Luck.

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In contrast to RG3, Luck also appears to understand the danger of over exposure & the value of keeping a low endorsement/media profile. LBs, DE's, & Safeties respect gritty, tough, football players not pretty boys that are plastered on every billboard or Subway commercial imaginable especially when they haven't played QB for 8 seasons or so. If I was a pass rusher, I would take every opportunity to slam RG3 to the turf hard as often as possible regardless of an extra yellow flag or 2.

 

Look, both RG3 & Luck are tremendous talents on the field. I just respect guys like Luck more who realize that they really haven't achieved anything of NFL significance yet. Okay, to be fair, RG3 won the NFC East Division last year & that is a nice feather in his cap. I won't take that accomplishment away from him or the Redskins. I just hate seeing RG3 in every other TV commercial like he just won the SB or something. It just rubs me the wrong way I guess. Luck, on the other hand, decided to prove his NFL credentials before he did any commercials & I really admire that personally. 

 

I just think you can chalk part of the RG3 phase to being the latest version of Michael Vick with speed, elusiveness, & a cannon for an arm. But, Luck is strong, fast enough on his feet, & can fire live rounds in his 50 caliber arm when necessary too. 

Hey Southwest,

Always enjoy your posts. But I have a question for you? Given your stance on Luck being the heads down player who shuns exposure (for now anyways), how do  you feel about Peyton? He has the most endorsements of an NFL player in the history of game. His Papa John's commercial came out before the ink on his Broncos contract was dry. Personally, I have no issue with it as his play on the field is superb as is his preparation and he knows how to balance the two. I see the same with RG. Won his division last year, ROY, rehabbed like a mad man to get back on the field this year for game 1. So, not sure why he is getting the lashing from you?

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Hey Southwest,

Always enjoy your posts. But I have a question for you? Given your stance on Luck being the heads down player who shuns exposure (for now anyways), how do you feel about Peyton? He has the most endorsements of an NFL player in the history of game. His Papa John's commercial came out before the ink on his Broncos contract was dry. Personally, I have no issue with it as his play on the field is superb as is his preparation and he knows how to balance the two. I see the same with RG. Won his division last year, ROY, rehabbed like a mad man to get back on the field this year for game 1. So, not sure why he is getting the lashing from you?

Peyton didn't start doing commercials for quite a few years into his career. Not before he ever took a snap in the NFL

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My friend Jules came up with the phrase "Adorkable" to describe Andrew Luck & SW1 always liked that term. Why? Well, because nerd is a distinct style & preserving a flip phone & going against the grain or current trends is a specific mindset that I go against myself a lot.

 

It's just cool when my QB doesn't give a crap about texting or taking pictures. He just uses his phone to talk & listen...Wow, what a novel concept eh? LOL!  ;)  :thmup:

 

Sometimes more is just more stuff to go wrong IMO. Never lose your inner geek Andrew...Be who you truly are...

Adorkable - Terminator.

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Peyton didn't start doing commercials for quite a few years into his career. Not before he ever took a snap in the NFL

Peyton did not win a playoff game until his sixth year in the league. And he was exposed just as much as Griffin being the first pick overall and RG being the second pick AND Heisman trophy winner.

 

But I think there are couple of more things at play here. First, the media landscape is not the same now as it was in 1998. With the explosion of social media, and sports center and the NFL Network, athletes of all sports are exposed more. Second, and more importantly, RG is a marketing super storm. He is the first black QB that has the legs of Vick complimented by a strong arm, accuracy and good decision making. This has always been the knock against running black QBs - can't throw well enough. RG shatters that mold. In addition, he plays in DC. A place that Stephen A. Smith refers to as Chocolate City. RG perfectly represents the cultural dynamic of that region for a big market football team. Third, he is well spoken, charming, and his play is electric on the field. This is a bonanza for marketing execs everywhere. I would imagine that for every deal he accepts, he is declining 10 others.

 

But to Southwest's point, I just don't see where his endorsement deals have hurt him on the field. His work ethic seems great, he is a smart kid, and he took the Skins to the playoffs in year one after the team began 3-6 and he won ROY. He also worked his butt off to come back and be ready to start week 1. I get that some people make dislike his bold personality but I think it is what makes the game great - differing personalities. And it seems disingenous at the very least for Colts fans to be criticizing the guy for his publicity when Manning is and has been a walking billboard, http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/07/news/companies/peyton-manning-endorsements/index.htm

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Peyton did not win a playoff game until his sixth year in the league. And he was exposed just as much as Griffin being the first pick overall and RG being the second pick AND Heisman trophy winner.

 

But I think there are couple of more things at play here. First, the media landscape is not the same now as it was in 1998. With the explosion of social media, and sports center and the NFL Network, athletes of all sports are exposed more. Second, and more importantly, RG is a marketing super storm. He is the first black QB that has the legs of Vick complimented by a strong arm, accuracy and good decision making. This has always been the knock against running black QBs - can't throw well enough. RG shatters that mold. In addition, he plays in DC. A place that Stephen A. Smith refers to as Chocolate City. RG perfectly represents the cultural dynamic of that region for a big market football team. Third, he is well spoken, charming, and his play is electric on the field. This is a bonanza for marketing execs everywhere. I would imagine that for every deal he accepts, he is declining 10 others.

 

But to Southwest's point, I just don't see where his endorsement deals have hurt him on the field. His work ethic seems great, he is a smart kid, and he took the Skins to the playoffs in year one after the team began 3-6 and he won ROY. He also worked his butt off to come back and be ready to start week 1. I get that some people make dislike his bold personality but I think it is what makes the game great - differing personalities. And it seems disingenous at the very least for Colts fans to be criticizing the guy for his publicity when Manning is and has been a walking billboard, http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/07/news/companies/peyton-manning-endorsements/index.htm

I think you are playing the role of the little devil sitting on the left shoulder here.

Peyton did wait a few years before did the commercials but he turned out to be the greatest endorser of all time among NFL players. He is so unique that I wouldn't compare anyone to him in this regard.

People who like Lucks personality are not going to like Griffins personality. Ali/Frazier kind of stuff. If Griffin turns out to be as good as reported, then I think Luck lovers will never cotton to Griffin and he will always be the Ali to Lucks Frazier. I am willing to bet you haven't been posting Peyton's praises over the past decade yourself, having seen many of your posts. There is some respect underlaid with some jealousy of his popularity. It is natural and I would expect that from you just as you should expect us to feel the way we do.

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Luck will certainly get his endorsement money, but it doesn't seem to be one of his top priorities.  They already announced that he's going to do endorsements for Klipsch speakers and headphones, which is cool because it's an Indy based company.

 

My favortie though, is the spot that he and Dwayne Allen did for, of all things, the public library:

 

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I like Andrew because two years prior to him coming out of college, I wanted us to draft him, but didn't see how we could.  Then as the fates would have it, the Colts imploded and voila, Luck is ours.

 

I like him cuz he's an * good football player and I trust him as our QB.  I like him cuz he made Reggie Wayne look young again last year.  I like him cuz on the game winner in Detroit, he escorted Avery in to the endzone.  And what's not to like about the 4th quarter comebacks?

 

Do you guys realize that we went from Peyton Manning to freakin' Andrew Luck?? 

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Peyton did not win a playoff game until his sixth year in the league. And he was exposed just as much as Griffin being the first pick overall and RG being the second pick AND Heisman trophy winner.

But I think there are couple of more things at play here. First, the media landscape is not the same now as it was in 1998. With the explosion of social media, and sports center and the NFL Network, athletes of all sports are exposed more. Second, and more importantly, RG is a marketing super storm. He is the first black QB that has the legs of Vick complimented by a strong arm, accuracy and good decision making. This has always been the knock against running black QBs - can't throw well enough. RG shatters that mold. In addition, he plays in DC. A place that Stephen A. Smith refers to as Chocolate City. RG perfectly represents the cultural dynamic of that region for a big market football team. Third, he is well spoken, charming, and his play is electric on the field. This is a bonanza for marketing execs everywhere. I would imagine that for every deal he accepts, he is declining 10 others.

But to Southwest's point, I just don't see where his endorsement deals have hurt him on the field. His work ethic seems great, he is a smart kid, and he took the Skins to the playoffs in year one after the team began 3-6 and he won ROY. He also worked his butt off to come back and be ready to start week 1. I get that some people make dislike his bold personality but I think it is what makes the game great - differing personalities. And it seems disingenous at the very least for Colts fans to be criticizing the guy for his publicity when Manning is and has been a walking billboard, http://money.cnn.com/2012/03/07/news/companies/peyton-manning-endorsements/index.htm

Oh... You again with your clever opinion

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I think you are playing the role of the little devil sitting on the left shoulder here.

Peyton did wait a few years before did the commercials but he turned out to be the greatest endorser of all time among NFL players. He is so unique that I wouldn't compare anyone to him in this regard.

People who like Lucks personality are not going to like Griffins personality. Ali/Frazier kind of stuff. If Griffin turns out to be as good as reported, then I think Luck lovers will never cotton to Griffin and he will always be the Ali to Lucks Frazier. I am willing to bet you haven't been posting Peyton's praises over the past decade yourself, having seen many of your posts. There is some respect underlaid with some jealousy of his popularity. It is natural and I would expect that from you just as you should expect us to feel the way we do.

It would seem that many RG detractors up here point to his endorsements for reasons to dislike him. I don't get it. While you are right that I am not going to pump Peyton's tires, I have also defended him up here more than once against the "Luck cult." That being said, I have never ever brought up his endorsements as a reason for disliking him. You know why? Because they don't matter. I have never seen his bazillion commercials effect him on the field. I have yet to see that with RG either which is the part I am questioning. I will await SW1 response as that is who I responding to and always enjoy his perspective.

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It would seem that many RG detractors up here point to his endorsements for reasons to dislike him. I don't get it. While you are right that I am not going to pump Peyton's tires, I have also defended him up here more than once against the "Luck cult." That being said, I have never ever brought up his endorsements as a reason for disliking him. You know why? Because they don't matter. I have never seen his bazillion commercials effect him on the field. I have yet to see that with RG either which is the part I am questioning. I will await SW1 response as that is who I responding to and always enjoy his perspective.

 

OK, I gotcha. 

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Luck will certainly get his endorsement money, but it doesn't seem to be one of his top priorities.  They already announced that he's going to do endorsements for Klipsch speakers and headphones, which is cool because it's an Indy based company.

 

My favortie though, is the spot that he and Dwayne Allen did for, of all things, the public library:

 

The question isn't whether or not Coach Pagano will allow his team story time Matt986. It's whether they get cookies, milk, & show & tell time man...Just teasing! Seriously though, a person never appreciates that stuff in Kindergarden. We all need a refresher course in it IMO.  

 

And naps...don't forget snooze time either...Now, that clause needs to be in the next CBA negotiation...

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Hey Southwest,

Always enjoy your posts. But I have a question for you? Given your stance on Luck being the heads down player who shuns exposure (for now anyways), how do  you feel about Peyton? He has the most endorsements of an NFL player in the history of game. His Papa John's commercial came out before the ink on his Broncos contract was dry. Personally, I have no issue with it as his play on the field is superb as is his preparation and he knows how to balance the two. I see the same with RG. Won his division last year, ROY, rehabbed like a mad man to get back on the field this year for game 1. So, not sure why he is getting the lashing from you?

It's a fair question amfootball. If you were to ask me to encapsulate my resentment toward RG3, SW1 would say his "Operation Patience" t-shirt was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. For starters, it is not official Nike NFL gear & therefore RG3 has made a deliberate decision to get fined, pay the fee, & put himself above the entire Redskins organization. Translation: Rules don't apply to me because I think I am better than everyone else & I am what makes this team go, win, & no one else. Now, SW1 is not saying that RG3 is self centered. Yes, RG3 has confidence in his ability to pull out clutch wins & I have no problem at all with that.

 

I'm just saying that the t-shirt episode screams of a guy who thinks that he has arrived & he hasn't done anything yet. Don't get too big for your britches son. Rules apply to everybody in this league & once you let them slide it sends the wrong message to your teammates. It all about equality & fairness & RG3 needs to zip it, avoid doing a zillion commercials, & just win football games.

 

This is only your 2nd year in the NFL RG3. You have not built up the cache/reputation of Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, or even Joe Flacco yet. Just shut up & play RG3...

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It's a fair question amfootball. If you were to ask me to encapsulate my resentment toward RG3, SW1 would say his "Operation Patience" t-shirt was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. For starters, it is not official Nike NFL gear & therefore RG3 has made a deliberate decision to get fined, pay the fee, & put himself above the entire Redskins organization. Translation: Rules don't apply to me because I think I am better than everyone else & I am what makes this team go, win, & no one else. Now, SW1 is not saying that RG3 is self centered. Yes, RG3 has confidence in his ability to pull out clutch wins & I have no problem at all with that.

 

I'm just saying that the t-shirt episode screams of a guy who thinks that he has arrived & he hasn't done anything yet. Don't get too big for your britches son. Rules apply to everybody in this league & once you let them slide it sends the wrong message to your teammates. It all about equality & fairness & RG3 needs to zip it, avoid doing a zillion commercials, & just win football games.

 

This is only your 2nd year in the NFL RG3. You have not built up the cache/reputation of Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, or even Joe Flacco yet. Just shut up & play RG3...

I get where you are coming from. I acutally liked the T-shirt. I thought he was kind of making fun of himself because he has not had much patience with the rehab process and Shanny's decision to not let him play in the preseason.

 

Let me ask you. How did you feel about Chad Johnson? I kind of see RG the same way. He is kind of a clown, likes the cameras, performs for them but does not detract from his team. He has never been a selfish guy in the sense of shirking responsibility. He always takes the blame when the team loses and just recently he said it was his fault that the team has been starting slow even though his defense has been a sieve. I think those comments go over in the locker room very well even if he is more falmboyount in front of the cameras. I realize his persona is in stark contrast to Luck which is probably why he rubs Colts fans the wrong way but I like his fire and his willingness to embrace the spotlight he is under which is a much bigger spotlight than Luck right now.

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I get where you are coming from. I acutally liked the T-shirt. I thought he was kind of making fun of himself because he has not had much patience with the rehab process and Shanny's decision to not let him play in the preseason.

 

Let me ask you. How did you feel about Chad Johnson? I kind of see RG the same way. He is kind of a clown, likes the cameras, performs for them but does not detract from his team. He has never been a selfish guy in the sense of shirking responsibility. He always takes the blame when the team loses and just recently he said it was his fault that the team has been starting slow even though his defense has been a sieve. I think those comments go over in the locker room very well even if he is more falmboyount in front of the cameras. I realize his persona is in stark contrast to Luck which is probably why he rubs Colts fans the wrong way but I like his fire and his willingness to embrace the spotlight he is under which is a much bigger spotlight than Luck right now.

Chad was an embarrassment to the game, and his 'flamboyancy' only detracted from his quite considerable skill set. These guys scream of me me me. Not a fan of either. 

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The dedication of Andrew Luck...had a smile on my face when i heard him say he would prefer to "earn it on the field"  lol 

 

http://www.nfl.com/videos/indianapolis-colts/0ap2000000243681/Luck-enjoys-privacy-flip-phone

 

Made me smile too

He seems like a nice hardworking guy

And I actually appreciate someone who does not need to be constantly plugged in.

Props to Andrew and his flip phone!

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Luck will certainly get his endorsement money, but it doesn't seem to be one of his top priorities.  They already announced that he's going to do endorsements for Klipsch speakers and headphones, which is cool because it's an Indy based company.

 

My favortie though, is the spot that he and Dwayne Allen did for, of all things, the public library:

 

Dwayne Allen also seems like a really nice guy

Love the work with the library!

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I get where you are coming from. I acutally liked the T-shirt. I thought he was kind of making fun of himself because he has not had much patience with the rehab process and Shanny's decision to not let him play in the preseason.

 

Let me ask you. How did you feel about Chad Johnson? I kind of see RG the same way. He is kind of a clown, likes the cameras, performs for them but does not detract from his team. He has never been a selfish guy in the sense of shirking responsibility. He always takes the blame when the team loses and just recently he said it was his fault that the team has been starting slow even though his defense has been a sieve. I think those comments go over in the locker room very well even if he is more falmboyount in front of the cameras. I realize his persona is in stark contrast to Luck which is probably why he rubs Colts fans the wrong way but I like his fire and his willingness to embrace the spotlight he is under which is a much bigger spotlight than Luck right now.

Chad Johnson is an interesting case because he was a veteran WR who never won anything noteworthy except having a good year in 2005 before then QB Carson Palmer got hurt derailing a possible deep Playoffs run.  He wasn't sharp enough to master the NE playbook in Foxboro, but in Chad's defense, I will admit that Bill Belichick does demand a lot from his players expecting them to carryout a number of responsibilities on the field. Hades, I probably wouldn't be smart enough to master it either to be honest with ya. I kind of felt sorry for Chad in Miami. I do not condone violence against women, children, or anyone, but I am a firm believer in 2nd chances as long as you get help through anger management classes etc. I just felt bad for how his career ended.

 

For me, the thing with Chad that bugged me as a Bengal WR is that he never seemed publicly to take his duties seriously. I'm not saying that he didn't work hard. It just seemed like he enjoyed befriending the media too much & acting like a court jester or joker too much. It was always some long list of DBs who he believed couldn't cover him or some joke to make reporters crack a smile. After awhile, I viewed him more as a comedian than a seasoned threat on a football field. At some point, I wanna see some passion, anger, & commitment to winning. I joke around a lot myself, but I also know when to drop the antics & get serious too. Also, Mr. Johnson always seemed consumed by his celebrity status off the field vs honing his route running & catches on the grid iron.  I don't hate Chad. I just wish he knew when to drop the class clown act & get serious. 

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I get where you are coming from. I acutally liked the T-shirt. I thought he was kind of making fun of himself because he has not had much patience with the rehab process and Shanny's decision to not let him play in the preseason.

 

That's fine. I just felt that "Operation Patience" was opposite of it's intended message. Instead of laying low, it screamed of individual self promotion. What didn't help matters was his dad chiming in about his rehab, Dr. Andrews chief medical surgeon saying how great RG3 looked, & his wedding blitzkrieg of photos, tweets, etc. etc. It raised the expectation level this year coming off major surgery especially with no Preseason game snaps. It's 1 thing to take the world by storm when nobody sees it coming; it's quite another to embrace the heat when you crave it & everybody knows you're coming. Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it. 

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