What about this free agent pick up part 2?

[emac]

Ted Ginn Jr

 

He could help on special teams with his speed. I wouldn't consider him in the wide receiver mix. If he was cheap could be a threat on special teams. What do you think?

[Gavin]

Not a bad idea depending on what we do with Karim, if we keep Karim then no need for him

[NewColtsFan]

Ginn wants more opportunity as a WR.    His money is limited as just a return specialist.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Grigson is interested....   the question is....   how interested?   And how much money will we offer and how much of an opportunity at WR?

 

This is a big contract opportunity for Ginn,  and he'll try to maximize it....

[Coltswarriors]

I don't think so.

 

I like Deji returning kicks and if we're going to get a WR I'd prefer a bigger WR.

[Luck_Is_Skilled]

Naw, I don't wanna sign any WR isn't a good WR. Ginn is fast though.

[buccolts]

If we're going to talk about Ginn, how about Hester?

It's speculated he won't be long for the Bears.

He's a lousy WR too.

[Tark The Shark]

I remember when Cam Cameron came out and announced him as the Dolphin's first round pick instead of Brady Quinn and people booed Cam.

 

Ginn wasn't that good with the Dolphins and was a rotational WR and above average return man with the 49ers.

 

Personally I wouldn't even touch the guy, we have a guy just like him in TY Hilton who is younger and has a lot more upside.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Ginn is going to want a serious payday. But he is not worth it. Regardless, all our guys are burners. So at the price he'll want, we don't need Ginn.

[HarassedOffTheSite]

If we're going to talk about Ginn, how about Hester?

It's speculated he won't be long for the Bears.

He's a lousy WR too.

Now he is intriguing. If the market for him turns out to be lukewarm, we could get his "return skills" at a decent price.

[Dustin]

If we're going to talk about Ginn, how about Hester?

It's speculated he won't be long for the Bears.

He's a lousy WR too.

 

Waste of a roster spot. No need to overpay for a specialist when we already have solid returners on the team.

[chad72]

I am curious to what people think about Cliff Avril. Is he a smaller Freeney or was he a misfit the other way, playing an undersized DE in a 4-3 while his true position may be 3-4 OLB much like Mathis? Thoughts???

[Smonroe]

I am curious to what people think about Cliff Avril. Is he a smaller Freeney or was he a misfit the other way, playing an undersized DE in a 4-3 while his true position may be 3-4 OLB much like Mathis? Thoughts???

How much of his production a part of being with Suh? He turned down $30m for three years.

TBH I really don't know much about him.

[Balzer40]

I am curious to what people think about Cliff Avril. Is he a smaller Freeney or was he a misfit the other way, playing an undersized DE in a 4-3 while his true position may be 3-4 OLB much like Mathis? Thoughts???

 

 

 

I don't see the point in paying big money to a guy just to switch his position. Reminder......we just did that last yr. and it was a disaster. No way on Avril.

[BOTT]

Ginn is going to want a serious payday. But he is not worth it. Regardless, all our guys are burners. So at the price he'll want, we don't need Ginn.

....and I wanna sleep with Brooklyn Decker

[chad72]

I don't see the point in paying big money to a guy just to switch his position. Reminder......we just did that last yr. and it was a disaster. No way on Avril.

 

Lets not forget that Mathis did switch from a 4-3 DE as well and did fine. Hence the question if we kick the tires for a 1 yr. deal with Avril whose body type is in between Mathis and Freeney, especially if no one else signs him (which means the Lions could not get a deal with him done).

[Balzer40]

Lets not forget that Mathis did switch from a 4-3 DE as well and did fine. Hence the question if we kick the tires for a 1 yr. deal with Avril whose body type is closer to Mathis than Freeney, especially if no one else signs him.

 

 

Somebody will pay him and it won't be us IMO. Like Smonroe said, he turned down 3 yrs. 30 mil. from Detroit. Im not paying 10 mil for another experiment. No way, no how.

[chad72]

Somebody will pay him and it won't be us IMO. Like Smonroe said, he turned down 3 yrs. 30 mil. from Detroit. Im not paying 10 mil for another experiment. No way, no how.

 

Something tells me he will come back to earth once free agency is close to ending.

[BOTT]

Lets not forget that Mathis did switch from a 4-3 DE as well and did fine. Hence the question if we kick the tires for a 1 yr. deal with Avril whose body type is in between Mathis and Freeney, especially if no one else signs him (which means the Lions could not get a deal with him done).

Avril is in his prime athletic years and needs to cash in.....zero chance he takes a one year deal.

[chad72]

Avril is in his prime athletic years and needs to cash in.....zero chance he takes a one year deal.

 

Happened with Tracy Porter though off the field health issues aren't a concern for Avril like with Porter.

[BOTT]

Happened with Tracy Porter though off the field health issues aren't a concern for Avril like with Porter.

Well yeah, he didn't exactly have a choice

[CS Colts Fan]

He is wanting top 5 DE pay... NO!!!

he isn't a top 5 .

I thought we would look at him because of Purdue and Grigs.. but not now with what he wants and how he rated last year.

in fact according to PFF he rated 42nd out of 48, Freeney was 25th.

Cliff Avril ED 5 DET UFA -11.6 708

Spencer was # 1

Barwin 45

Shaun Phillips 46

Kuger was 8th

Victor Butler 9th ** The Peytonator has been speaking about us picking him up... I like the FA [icks he has been suggesting for us...

[Gavin]

He is wanting top 5 DE pay... NO!!!

he isn't a top 5 .

I thought we would look at him because of Purdue and Grigs.. but not now with what he wants and how he rated last year.

in fact according to PFF he rated 42nd out of 48, Freeney was 25th.

Cliff Avril ED 5 DET UFA -11.6 708

Spencer was # 1

Barwin 45

Shaun Phillips 46

Kuger was 8th

Victor Butler 9th ** The Peytonator has been speaking about us picking him up... I like the FA [icks he has been suggesting for us...

Exactly why I dont buy into these numerical ratings some of these sites put on players based on there perceived play of a player, How can a guy that had 35 tackles through 16 games and 9.5 sacks be 17 spots below a guy that 12 tackles and 5 sacks through 14 games? Same with Phillips being 46th yet he had better numbers then Avril, 50 tackles and 9.5 sacks

[CS Colts Fan]

I hear ya Gavin, but he is wanting too MUCH Mulla... I believe Grigs will do what he has been doing.. good talent at good price

[needanoline63]

Cause Karim returned 1 kickoff for a touchdown, that makes him are answer. All he did was run up the middle untouched.

[Dustin]

Cause Karim returned 1 kickoff for a touchdown, that makes him are answer. All he did was run up the middle untouched.

 

Karim averaged 36 yards per return.

[Gavin]

Cause Karim returned 1 kickoff for a touchdown, that makes him are answer. All he did was run up the middle untouched.

Its a position that lost some of its value do to the rule change, he comes cheap, 

[Balzer40]

Cause Karim returned 1 kickoff for a touchdown, that makes him are answer. All he did was run up the middle untouched.

 

 

 

In Karim's short time here, he has proved to be the best returner we've had here in yrs..

[NewColtsFan]

Lets not forget that Mathis did switch from a 4-3 DE as well and did fine. Hence the question if we kick the tires for a 1 yr. deal with Avril whose body type is in between Mathis and Freeney, especially if no one else signs him (which means the Lions could not get a deal with him done).

 

He may not get the deal he wants,  but he'll get much, much more than a 1-year deal.

 

We're running a 3-4.    I don't think he wants any part of that.    I'd be happy if I'm wrong on this and he wants to come home to Indiana....    but I just don't see that happening....

 

He's in demand as a 4-3 RDE....   he'll get a very, very nice contract.