Jump to content
Indianapolis Colts
Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum

Could Part Of The Problem Be The Colts "we Don't Care About Preseason" Attitude?


Blue Horseshoe

Recommended Posts

The past 4 years they have opened very flat.

Sure, there have been some key injuries but the whole team has looked bad each year.

2008 Bears 29 Colts 13

2009 Jaguars 12 Colts 14

2010 Texans 34 Colts 24

2011 Texans 34 Colts 7

Were not the only good team that does this. Preseason has nothing to do with it. That's about evaluating players, not getting your first string players in sync. Its only natural for rust to build during the off season. The only loss you listed that still stings is the Bears loss. That was the Lukes debut!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The past 4 years they have opened very flat.

Sure, there have been some key injuries but the whole team has looked bad each year.

2008 Bears 29 Colts 13

2009 Jaguars 12 Colts 14

2010 Texans 34 Colts 24

2011 Texans 34 Colts 7

There are threads that make my head hurt. This is one of them.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Were not the only good team that does this. Preseason has nothing to do with it. That's about evaluating players, not getting your first string players in sync. Its only natural for rust to build during the off season. The only loss you listed that still stings is the Bears loss. That was the Lukes debut!

I am in no way saying that winning preseason ball games is important. It is the "oh well, we don't care if we look horrible" way they talk about it. From about 2004 to 2008 the first team usually won their quarters and Manning would talk about how much they wanted to score, especially on the opening drive of the game. Now they actually talk about how they don't care and I'm wondering if it could be carrying into opening day. On opening day the past 4 years they have put up one of their 3 worst point totals each year and 3 of 4 years have allowed one of their 3 worst point totals of the year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I am in no way saying that winning preseason ball games is important. It is the "oh well, we don't care if we look horrible" way they talk about it. From about 2004 to 2008 the first team usually won their quarters and Manning would talk about how much they wanted to score, especially on the opening drive of the game. Now they actually talk about how they don't care and I'm wondering if it could be carrying into opening day. On opening day the past 4 years they have put up one of their 3 worst point totals each year and 3 of 4 years have allowed one of their 3 worst point totals of the year.

Here is a thought, what will happen when the pre-season is cut to two games.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Could Part Of The Problem Be The Colts "we Don't Care About Preseason" Attitude?

No. The problem is we lost our franchise QB and didn't have the wherewithal to make sure we had a contingency plan. We didn't have a little red box that said "Break glass in case of injured Manning".

We can pull the carpet up trying to search for reasons, but the reasons are really very apparent, and it really is that simple.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

No -- they've sucked in the pre-season for a very long time....and never had any problems in the regular season because of it. I don't think this is part of any "problem"

The only thing they should have done different this season, was have a veteran QB in place to play for Manning -- "just in case" -- well before the end of August.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The past 4 years they have opened very flat.

Sure, there have been some key injuries but the whole team has looked bad each year.

2008 Bears 29 Colts 13

2009 Jaguars 12 Colts 14

2010 Texans 34 Colts 24

2011 Texans 34 Colts 7

Not at all...and it's not that the Colts don't care about preseason...they, just like all other teams do care very much about preseason. What they don't care about is WINNING in preseason. Winning preseason games is pointless. Using those games to evaluate individual performances in a game-time situation is invaluable.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Every season most colts fans think only the colts don't care about preseason because only THEY use it to evaluate.

Not true. All teams run it the same.

Players are evaluated in TRAINING camp. Come preseason over 95% of the roster is known. Only a few players are actually trying to make the team.

Preseason is to use what they learned in training camp (starters and rookies) and put it into live game conditions. There is a playbook thus game plan so the coach can see how its executed under game conditions. It's not the full playbook.

I seriously doubt the colts coaches don't care about the preseason.

The score doesn't matter but the play does.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

preseason is strictly for finding players the chance to make the team and letting them show what they can do. This is how you find the players that can step in through out the season when needed wether be it from injuries or poor play by a starter and play at the level expected of them. Its not about winning preseason games. If they played the starters for extensive time and won the games and got someone hurt you would be mad and bashing them for that. this is where 2 and 3 string players learn to play on our team so in the season when the come in you say the team is deep and all their players can step in and play.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The preseason better be used to help get starters in sync or week 1 will look like a preseason game...oh wait it has for the last 4 years!

I don't think winning in the preseason is important but I think its very important to get the defense and offense playing well together.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The past 4 years they have opened very flat.

Sure, there have been some key injuries but the whole team has looked bad each year.

2008 Bears 29 Colts 13

2009 Jaguars 12 Colts 14

2010 Texans 34 Colts 24

2011 Texans 34 Colts 7

We lost the Bears one because Peyton wasn't able to get his timing and chemistry down with the offense due to his bursa sac injury. As for the others, division games are always close, so I wouldn't say pre-season is the cause. Last year, we were simply unprepared for the Texans and Arian Foster, this year our entire team executed poorly.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

It's only one game, surprised we lost no. We don't have Peyton, but our season is far from lost. We're a good football team and I don't know how some of you don't see it. There was some good out of everything bad we did last sunday. You can't tell because they were on the field for most of the game, but our defense has improved. Once we get going with something on offense we'll be fine. We beat ourselves sunday with turnovers

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Thread of the Week

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I just thought I would take this opportunity to brag a bit about the fact that I had the opportunity to chat with Peyton at the Masters last week for about 5 minutes.  Truly a bucket list experience and I must say, he has the Southern Hospitality that one might expect but wow- did not expect to run into him and it was quite the experience.  It just had to be the one place left on earth where cell phones are banned, so no picture opportunity unfortunately.   I told Peyton that my first Colts experience was riding to Buffalo in a blizzard when the Colts were 14-0 and they benched him only to lose that game. I said thanks for my first Colts experience being one where he was riding the pine.  He laughed, apologized to me and said that if it was up to him he would have been checking down in that snow storm for 4 quarters.  He thanked me for the support, and was asking me a bit about myself, where I am from, etc.  Quite the gentleman! I think it was obligatory for him to be nice to patrons while he was wearing his Green Jacket, but none the less....a great experience meeting a childhood hero. Lynn Swann walked up to us while we were talking and shook Peyton's hand.  I joked that now was the perfect time for a 10 yard slant- and then slid into the bushes like Homer Simpson with humility.    Unforgettable experience everyone!   Would love to hear some of your Peyton stories from over the years, since it is a bit of a slow time of year before the draft! Let it fly Colts fans  
    • I agree.  I think this is another one of those over-hyped QB classes that will probably never perform to the level of the hype. But -- teams still need a quarterback.  And will convince themselves that that must take one of these quarterbacks.  That it's the only solution to their problem.  If I was forced to choose, I would probably go with Heisman winner Jayden Daniels.  I'm concerned that Caleb Williams may have some personality issues to go with his lack of measurables, even though he shows strong ability to improvise.  Drake Maye has the measurables, but I have questions regarding the level of opposition playing at UNC.  It's not the same as playing the equivalent of the Crimson Tide every single week.  JJ McCarthy is "good".  And he's been successful.  He led his team to a BCS championship.  And?  I see him in the same mold as AJ McCarron.  Supremely successful in college, but not good enough to be The Guy in the pros.
    • Right. KC was also a perennial playoff team prior to Mahomes taking over. The Colts are a fringe playoff team at best, until we see if AR can lift the roster.    And to your point, Veach took over the summer before Mahomes’ rookie year. Hard to compare how KC’s FO approach with Dorsey at GM (for several years) vs. when Veach took over. It seems like Ballard has been more like Dorsey and Veach might just operate differently from both of them.    If Ballard wanted to follow the Veach KC model, he sure waited a long time to do it once Luck retired. 
    • DeFo was an aggressive move.   But I wouldn’t classify Wentz or Ryan as aggressive moves. Getting Stafford would have been an aggressive move at QB. Wentz was cheaper and PHI was looking to dump him. They didn’t even budge from their initial offer to PHI  And Ryan sort of fell in their laps after they dumped Wentz. 
    • I think most important option is missing in the poll : No One.   I think it's a fairly average QB class that it's okay to not like anybody enough to draft him. There's no one QB that Wows you with their pocket passing Caliber or pure athletic traits or good combination of both. It's like a tweener class of all those abilities, having lop-sided combination of above said skills.    And, this poll, rather than forcing to pick one QB, needed that extra option to express staying away from this QB class. 
  • Members

×
×
  • Create New...