Jim Irsay ill

[IrsaysArmy]

Just now, DougDew said:

Addiction is a real issue and its not fair to judge a person's character because of that personal problem, IMO (no, neither I or a family member or a friend have had problems there). 

 

He's probably respected by his employees because of how he treats his employees and others, rather than how he treats himself

You’re probably right. He’s hurting a lot of people with his actions though. He has unlimited resources to get help since addiction is treatable, yet he chooses not to.

3 minutes ago, BeanDiasucci said:

Irsay is ranked seventh among current NFL owners in winning pct. - 247-182-1 (.576) - and the Colts have a 13-15 playoff record during his tenure. Much of his success can be attributed to Peyton Manning. "Irsay’s record is 141-67 (.678) when Peyton Manning starts at quarterback and 106-115-1 (.480) the rest of the time, which is how the league usually works."

https://theathletic.com/5115078/2023/12/08/nfl-owners-ranking-32-teams/

Exactly, if Jim Irsay didn’t fall * backwards into Peyton Manning, he’d be known as a complete diaster of an owner. 

[DougDew]

10 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

You’re probably right. He’s hurting a lot of people with his actions though. He has unlimited resources to get help since addiction is treatable, yet he chooses not to.

I can only speak to what the article said and what has been in the public record.  He's been to rehab 15 times.  There are only so many chemicals that can be used to treat the various substances, and the various substances tend to have short half-lives so that the body fully metabolizes them if you stay away long enough.  I'm sure he has the money and ability to have matriculated all of the clinical programs that are available.

 

I suspect his situation allows him to relapse, mentally, and he has no real obligations to prevent that...in that....it's not like a single mom who has no choice but to get clean.  If people want to assassinate his character, be my guest, but I won't (over that issue)

 

As a Colts fan, my concern and criticism has always been over his meddling and tweeting, which sometimes comes off as unhelpful.    

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 minutes ago, BeanDiasucci said:

Irsay is ranked seventh among current NFL owners in winning pct. - 247-182-1 (.576) - and the Colts have a 13-15 playoff record during his tenure. Much of his success can be attributed to Peyton Manning. "Irsay’s record is 141-67 (.678) when Peyton Manning starts at quarterback and 106-115-1 (.480) the rest of the time, which is how the league usually works."

https://theathletic.com/5115078/2023/12/08/nfl-owners-ranking-32-teams/

Thanks for the facts. I figured he was around .500 without Peyton. .500 still isn't bad considering what he did with Peyton and winning a SB. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

You’re probably right. He’s hurting a lot of people with his actions though. He has unlimited resources to get help since addiction is treatable, yet he chooses not to.

Exactly, if Jim Irsay didn’t fall * backwards into Peyton Manning, he’d be known as a complete diaster of an owner. 

With Andrew Luck/Hasselbeck helping that 1 year in the Luck era, he was 59-37 and won 4 playoff games. It is about the QB's with any Owner or GM.

[ColtStrong2013]

15 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

You’re probably right. He’s hurting a lot of people with his actions though. He has unlimited resources to get help since addiction is treatable, yet he chooses not to.

Exactly, if Jim Irsay didn’t fall * backwards into Peyton Manning, he’d be known as a complete diaster of an owner. 

tell me you don’t understand addiction without telling me… 🤦‍♂️ 

 

A history of addiction in an older person with chronic health problems is a dangerous combination. It’s a vicious cycle. Addiction leads to poor health requiring surgery down the road. Surgery requires pain medicine. Etc. I think the fact that he has more resources than the vast majority to address it (and has used those resources and even started full campaigns on mental health awareness) should be seen as a very real scenario that it’s not some nonsense excuse for drug users. It affects every level of society. You should take a course and thank your lucky stars that you aren’t personally affected by it. Which you are obviously not with your judgment on the issue. 

[Indyfan4life]

23 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

You’re probably right. He’s hurting a lot of people with his actions though. He has unlimited resources to get help since addiction is treatable, yet he chooses not to.

Exactly, if Jim Irsay didn’t fall * backwards into Peyton Manning, he’d be known as a complete diaster of an owner. 

Your complete lack of understanding of how addiction works, even to those with resources is nothing short of astounding and impressive. 

[GoColts8818]

Some of these posts are disgusting.  I hope someone shows some of you more sympathy than some are showing when you are at your lowest point.  You don’t have to approve of his behavior to understand he has a very hard problem to control and show a little compassion.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

13 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

Your complete lack of understanding of how addiction works, even to those with resources is nothing short of astounding and impressive. 

I had an uncle that drink a 5th of Vodka straight almost every day for 40 years. He couldn't function without it. I have seen it first-hand. I have no idea how he drink that crap straight, it burns and taste like crap  . He drink it like water. 

[Solid84]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I had an uncle that drink a 5th of Vodka straight almost every day for 40 years. He couldn't function without it. I have seen a first-hand. I have no idea how he drink that crap straight, it burns and taste like crap  . He drink it like water. 

Yeah, when I was a carpenter I worked with some older guys who couldn't function if they didn't get like 6-10 beers over a work day. They were intolerable, borderline useless, if they didn't get their beer.

 

Addiction is terrible.

[csmopar]

1 hour ago, IrsaysArmy said:

How any Colts employee can respect this guy is beyond me. He must just not be ready to get clean yet. Maybe after the next OD

Here’s the thing, it may not have been an actual OD. We don’t know. But there’s evidence that mixing certain drugs can have the same effect as an OD even if he was taking them as prescribed. Problem is, there’s not many studies out that that show how drugs can interact with each other inside the body. So while it’s most likely a self inflicted issue, it’s plausible it might not be. 

[csmopar]

11 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Some of these posts are disgusting.  I hope someone shows some of you more sympathy than some are showing when you are at your lowest point.  You don’t have to approve of his behavior to understand he has a very hard problem to control and show a little compassion.  

Exactly. 

[#12.]

1 hour ago, IrsaysArmy said:

How any Colts employee can respect this guy is beyond me. 

 

You thought enough of him to enlist in his army.

[IrsaysArmy]

12 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Some of these posts are disgusting.  I hope someone shows some of you more sympathy than some are showing when you are at your lowest point.  You don’t have to approve of his behavior to understand he has a very hard problem to control and show a little compassion.  

You’ve clearly never had a love one continually relapse and disappoint. It gets old, it’s tiring, it’s annoying and burdensome. Irsay has been a drug addict for probably 50 years. I don’t feel bad for Jim, I feel bad for his friends and family. 

3 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

You thought enough of him to enlist in his army.

Luckily, generals don’t do the fighting. 

[Dingus McGirt]

3 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The incident happened on the 8th, he was at the Steelers game on the 16th and even tweeted before the Texans game. 

Ok

[IndyD4U]

Everyone is battling something. Stop throwing  stones at the man. It doesn’t matter when or how he got where he is. 
 

Get well soon, Jimmy. 
 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

Yeah, when I was a carpenter I worked with some older guys who couldn't function if they didn't get like 6-10 beers over a work day. They were intolerable, borderline useless, if they didn't get their beer.

 

Addiction is terrible.

Yeah, a friend of mine, his dad owned a construction company. He would drink around Pint of whiskey before going on the job and his work was excellent for years. My friend once told me when he went to work sober a few times, he couldn't function and would even shake, he couldn't work. Sad and unreal at the same time. I drink but like once or twice or week during games or to have a good time but I could not imagine being addicted to it to function around people.

[GoColts8818]

3 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

You’ve clearly never had a love one continually relapse and disappoint. It gets old, it’s tiring, it’s annoying and burdensome. Irsay has been a drug addict for probably 50 years. I don’t feel bad for Jim, I feel bad for his friends and family. 

Luckily, generals don’t do the fighting. 

So he deserves to be ridiculed for it?  Please…

[John Waylon]

2 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

Luckily, generals don’t do the fighting.

 

I bet you love to yammer on about being a “lion and not a sheep” too. 
 

A stupidity addiction. 

[IrsaysArmy]

1 minute ago, GoColts8818 said:

So he deserves to be ridiculed for it?  Please…

Yes, tough love is needed with people like Jim. Trust me

[John Waylon]

Just now, John Waylon said:

 

I bet you love to yammer on about being a “lion and not a sheep” too. 
 

A stupidity addiction. 

 

Just now, IrsaysArmy said:

Yes, tough love is needed with people like Jim. Trust me

darn did I nail that one.  

[SR711]

4 hours ago, BProland85 said:

He’s getting close to the point where he needs to step away. 

Honest question for you and the rest on the board, do you think that not having the pressures, etc of day to day operations of owning an NFL franchise would help him stay sober or does doing that give him something to occupy his mind, time and give him something to fight for? 
 

I don’t have a good answer myself

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

Ok

That might be the post of the day. I love 1-word responses when they are good. 

[IrsaysArmy]

3 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

 

darn did I nail that one.  

Come on John. You are giving me a hard time for ridiculing Irsay, while you ridicule me.  Make it make sense John

[John Waylon]

2 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

Come on John. You are giving me a hard time for ridiculing Irsay, while you ridicule me.  Make it make sense John

I’m giving you a hard time because You’re a *. Not for ridiculing Irsay. Do keep up. 

[Dingus McGirt]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

That might be the post of the day. I love 1-word responses when they are good. 

I aims to please.

[Nadine]

2 hours ago, DougDew said:

WTH?  Does he read the forums?  Its not in my nature to grandstand my sympathy.

 

Seems like an appropriate thread to discuss transition of ownership.

What seems appropriate to me is to wish him well and not divide up his assets just yet.

 

That just seems insensitive and mean spirited.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Dingus McGirt said:

I aims to please.

You did good 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, IrsaysArmy said:

Stop being soft. Irsay is an absolute diaster 

He raised 3 daughters who are successful, he won a SB, he has lived a long time, he treats his employees and fans good, and he is a billionaire. I wish I could be that disaster in life. 

[John Waylon]

2 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

Stop being soft. Irsay is an absolute diaster 

Oh I’ve no doubt you’re an expert in what makes one a disaster. Speaking straight from the pulpit of experience.

[IrsaysArmy]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He raised 3 daughters who are successful, he won a SB, he has lived a long time, he treats his employees and fans good, and he is a billionaire. I wish I could be that disaster in life. 

He’s a billionaire because his Daddy was rich. Jim was born on 3rd base. And God Bless him, I wish I was born into that situation. Also, I like Irsay. I like his passion and love for the Colts. I also think he needs to figure his % out.

[IrsaysArmy]

1 minute ago, John Waylon said:

Oh I’ve no doubt you’re an expert in what makes one a disaster. Speaking straight from the pulpit of experience.

Good one John. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, IrsaysArmy said:

He’s a billionaire because his Daddy was rich. Jim was born on 3rd base. And God Bless him, I wish I was born into that situation. Also, I like Irsay. I like his passion and love for the Colts. I also think he needs to figure his % out.

He is twice the owner his daddy was though. He has done right here. His daddy sucked as an owner.

[DougDew]

10 minutes ago, Nadine said:

What seems appropriate to me is to wish him well and not divide up his assets just yet.

 

That just seems insensitive and mean spirited.

You seem to be encouraging us to build a perceived sense of self-importance,  that because we are on a Colts forum, we are somehow closer to the Irsay's and need to express some sort of sensitivity.  We're not close to him and his family, and we are not like circling vultures trying to decide who will get the lamp and who gets the washer and dryer.

 

I'm a fan and I care about the future of the Colts.  To me, ownership simply is a function of that.  

[GoColts8818]

19 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

Yes, tough love is needed with people like Jim. Trust me

We aren’t his family he’s never going to see a word we say so tough love on an internet message board is pointless and just an excuse to be mean spirited.

[Nadine]

9 minutes ago, DougDew said:

You seem to be encouraging us to build a perceived sense of self-importance,  that because we are on a Colts forum, we are somehow closer to the Irsay's and need to express some sort of sensitivity.  We're not close to him and his family, and we are not like circling vultures trying to decide who will get the lamp and who gets the washer and dryer.

 

I'm a fan and I care about the future of the Colts.  To me, ownership simply is a function of that.  

wow, ok

Sad

[ArmchairQB]

We don’t know for sure that these two are related but it very well could be.  This is not good

[husker61]

Should close this thread, nothing good is going to come from debating addictions. 

[DougDew]

15 minutes ago, Nadine said:

wow, ok

Sad

Well, to some of us its just sports, and don't get much out of getting more personally involved with our sports experiences. 

[Nadine]

3 minutes ago, husker61 said:

Should close this thread, nothing good is going to come from debating addictions. 

I hear you

But for now I think most people care and want to wish him well.  If it gets ugly we'll close

 

[ColtStrong2013]

50 minutes ago, IrsaysArmy said:

You’ve clearly never had a love one continually relapse and disappoint. It gets old, it’s tiring, it’s annoying and burdensome. Irsay has been a drug addict for probably 50 years. I don’t feel bad for Jim, I feel bad for his friends and family. 

Why are you here? Seriously… what the hell are you doing here right now? Seeking attention?