Colts @ Ravens post game thread

[2006Coltsbestever]

I was just on Youtube watching post game stuff and Ravens fans + Lamar and Harbaugh was complaining about the no call on Flowers at the end. Here is my response to that, WELCOME TO THE COLTS WORLD. We have been getting the short end of the stick for years and people don't feel sorry for us and just say we lost. We got a break for the 1st time in 10 freakin years it seems, deal with it Baltimore 

[krunk]

8 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

After the third one the Colts finally adjusted  (that’s at the Colts for taking so long not you) and then the Ravens started using him as a decoy to send pressure from other places which was smart on their part.

It was crazy bc he was getting head on full body shots on Minshew. If that was Peyton Manning he would have been identifying Hamilton and pointing him out before the ball was even snapped. He probably doesn't even get anymore than one of those on Peyton. I didn't understand why we couldn't identify Hamilton and have the hot read ready immediately.

[GoColts8818]

Just now, krunk said:

It was crazy bc he was getting head on full body shots on Minshew. If that was Peyton Manning he would have been identifying Hamilton and pointing him out before the ball was even snapped. He probably doesn't even get anymore than one of those on Peyton. I didn't understand why we couldn't identify Hamilton and have the hot read ready immediately.

Well some of that was on Minshew not identifying him which lead to well what you saw.  

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

It was crazy bc he was getting head on full body shots on Minshew. If that was Peyton Manning he would have been identifying Hamilton and pointing him out before the ball was even snapped. He probably doesn't even get anymore than one of those on Peyton. I didn't understand why we couldn't identify Hamilton and have the hot read ready immediately.

Once we added the extra blocker we were fine. I am thinking that coach probably thought Mustache would pick up Hamilton coming pre-snap. Mustache is good at doing that normally.

[krunk]

Minshew was a real trooper for taking those rocket blasts!

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

From a personal standpoint, I can't stand the timbre of her voice. It sounds like she's congested 24/7. 

It is not her voice that bothers me, it is her favoritism toward a team. In order to have favoritism you need to be employe'd by a team you are announcing for. Like Lamey was for the Colts, Boyle for the Pacers who is an excellent radio announcer. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

@Creekside, I see you are here, I took your 40 points and the Colts, I won a million dollars, thank pal. Your advice was excellent 

[DougDew]

14 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

From a personal standpoint, I can't stand the timbre of her voice. It sounds like she's congested 24/7. 

Well, the first requirement for successful broadcasting is to have a pleasant voice.  Radio voices are usually deep because they are less grating on the ears.  Somehow, she missed that screening.

[Creekside]

 

According to the guys at PFF the Ravens blitzed 32 times out of 49 drop backs.

 

Colts offense played very well considering they were blitzed 32 times...No fumbles. No INTs.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, DougDew said:

Well, the first requirement for successful broadcasting is to have a pleasant voice.  Radio voices are usually deep because they are less grating on the ears.  Somehow, she missed that screening.

I have a loud but deep voice, you are 100% correct. Jim Nantz is probably my favorite because he has a pleasant voice but can go an octane up when something great happens, I loved Lamey on radio too. Pick your spots I say. 

[Moe]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Shane almost gets an A+, but I still went A because the last play of regulation had me scratching my head. I would have brought Gay out then. Not sure what was going with that?

I’m not sure why we didn’t try a field goal or Hail Mary didn’t have anything to lose.

[DougDew]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I have a loud but deep voice, you are 100% correct. Jim Nantz is probably my favorite because he has a pleasant voice but can go an octane up when something great happens, I loved Lamey on radio too. Pick your spots I say. 

Lamey's voice was kind of grating, IMO.  It was an acquired taste.  His enthusiasm for a home-team broadcast was a good match.  I don't think he'd be popular in a national/objective sense. 

[RollerColt]

5 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Well, the first requirement for successful broadcasting is to have a pleasant voice.  Radio voices are usually deep because they are less grating on the ears.  Somehow, she missed that screening.

For me, it'll always be Marty and Joe from the Cincinnati Reds. Absolute iconic voices on a warm summer night. All of my friends would play ball in our local field with them on the radio in the background. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

I really didn't win a million dollars but was talking smack to Creek  

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Lamey's voice was kind of grating, IMO.  It was an acquired taste.  His enthusiasm for a home-team broadcast was a good match.  I don't think he'd be popular in a national/objective sense. 

Radio suited him and being a Homer was ok because he was an employee of the Colts.

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

For me, it'll always be Marty and Joe from the Cincinnati Reds. Absolute iconic voices on a warm summer night. All of my friends would play ball in our local field with them on the radio in the background. 

Marty was great. He had a rare voice I loved. TV wise, Nantz, Al Micheals, Vince Scully, Dick Enberg, Bob Costas were the Elite. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Marty was great. He had a rare voice I loved. TV wise, Nantz, Al Micheals, Vince Scully, Dick Enberg, Bob Costas were the Elite. 

Pat Summerall and John Madden together were awesome too.

[Dingus McGirt]

All you youngsters leaving out Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith.  Sigh.

 

[RollerColt]

Just now, Dingus McGirt said:

All you youngsters leaving out Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith.  Sigh.

 

I'm sure they were excellent. But yeah, I'm 35 so I missed that era. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Dingus McGirt said:

All you youngsters leaving out Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith.  Sigh.

 

Cosell is a legend. My bad for not including him. Loved him on Monday Nights as a kid. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

If and say IF, we win the next 2 games and get to 4-1. We will win the division. Book it. That would already give us a win over Houston and Tennessee at that point.

[rockywoj]

15 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

All you youngsters leaving out Howard Cosell and Dandy Don Meredith.  Sigh.

 

“Did you see that graphic!”, Cosell.

 

”Turn out the lights, the party’s over.”, Don

 

And don’t forget Frank Gifford as the hosting play by play ring leader.

 

 

[stitches]

1 hour ago, krunk said:

I don't know how we kept allowing Minshew to get his noodle knocked by this same guy on the same blitz over and over again!

I think Minshew allowed that himself... If I had to bet, he probably was the one responsible for identifying that blitzer and hitting the hot read when Hamilton blitzed... 

[chad72]

45 minutes ago, krunk said:

Minshew was a real trooper for taking those rocket blasts!

 

Trooper, maybe. More of a "roll of the dice approach" is what I describe it, since we knew that he was the last good QB standing for us out there other than AR. You and I know Sam E ain't winning us that game. Otherwise, we would have had a Nick Foles having his bell rung by the Giants type of situation.

 

Let us be honest, once it happened several times, it was a question of playing with fire. If I am Steichen, I would keep using a combo of AR and Minshew even when both are healthy.

[rockywoj]

15 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

If and say IF, we win the next 2 games and get to 4-1. We will win the division. Book it. That would already give us a win over Houston and Tennessee at that point.

The remaining division games are the key.  With 4 of those games remaining, gotta win at least 3 out of 4 with one of those 3 wins being over the Jaguars, to be in position to win the division.  Simply put, imho, if the Colts don’t take 3 of 4, they will not win the division and will miss the playoffs.

 

If the Colts are really to be contenders this year, I think they really do have to win their next two games as well, starting with a home victory over the Rams next week.

[landrus13]

10 minutes ago, stitches said:

I think Minshew allowed that himself... If I had to bet, he probably was the one responsible for identifying that blitzer and hitting the hot read when Hamilton blitzed... 

They mentioned on the broadcast it was the responsibility of Minshew to call out protections since we had French under center. They didn't want him to have that burden. 

[Yoshinator]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I was just on Youtube watching post game stuff and Ravens fans + Lamar and Harbaugh was complaining about the no call on Flowers at the end. Here is my response to that, WELCOME TO THE COLTS WORLD. We have been getting the short end of the stick for years and people don't feel sorry for us and just say we lost. We got a break for the 1st time in 10 freakin years it seems, deal with it Baltimore 

Yep. We got away with one, but it was an even game. Not like it was a hold on an INT for a TD where the Ravens offense would have scored and it would have been a 14-point swing hypothetically. We were right there with them the whole game. If anything, we probably win by 10 points if Richardson plays as he could have been much more mobile than Minshew, who didn't run the ball all game (and Lamar did). 

 

This game just reassures me that with AR, we will have high potential as a team. Oh, and Matt Gay is an elite Kicker! 

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yep. We got away with one, but it was an even game. Not like it was a hold on an INT for a TD where the Ravens offense would have scored and it would have been a 14-point swing hypothetically. We were right there with them the whole game. If anything, we probably win by 10 points if Richardson plays as he could have been much more mobile than Minshew, who didn't run the ball all game (and Lamar did). 

 

This game just reassures me that with AR, we will have high potential as a team. Oh, and Matt Gay is an elite Kicker! 

They got away with holding Paye a lot all game. I could post at least 3 plays where he was held to give Lamar chances to make a big play. Like I said - scoreboard. Had we not got that call nobody in here nobody would bring that up except for a few like me, and you know what people would tell me - quit crying you Homer. Great to be at the end of this winning for a change. I love it today 

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

They got away with holding Paye a lot all game. I could post at least 3 plays where he was held to give Lamar chances to make a big play. Like I said - scoreboard. Had we not got that call nobody in here nobody would bring that up except for a few like me, and you know what people would tell me - quit crying you Homer. Great to be at the end of this winning for a change. I love it today 

Yeah I was watching the OT portion of the game on TV. Was a bit worried on the Tucker 61 FG that missed where they tried to win it before then. Moss is a beast and is going to be a very good no2 RB when Taylor returns. We won that trade with Hines for him (and I'm not just saying that because Hines got hurt). The defense looked very good yesterday from what I saw. Lots of sacks and forced fumbles. Ekubam and Paye looked solid. Brents had a nice debut game. Was fun to see what they did. 

 

Look forward to watching next week with Richardson. Nice to be 2-1 with a winning record early. Rooting for the Rams tonight against the Bengals. Although they are 0-2, they are still dangerous when Burrow is healthy, and I'd prefer them out of the playoffs.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Good stuff in here from Steichen after the win yesterday.

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, Jared Cisneros said:

Yeah I was watching the OT portion of the game on TV. Was a bit worried on the Tucker 61 FG that missed where they tried to win it before then. Moss is a beast and is going to be a very good no2 RB when Taylor returns. We won that trade with Hines for him (and I'm not just saying that because Hines got hurt). The defense looked very good yesterday from what I saw. Lots of sacks and forced fumbles. Ekubam and Paye looked solid. Brents had a nice debut game. Was fun to see what they did. 

 

Look forward to watching next week with Richardson. Nice to be 2-1 with a winning record early. Rooting for the Rams tonight against the Bengals. Although they are 0-2, they are still dangerous when Burrow is healthy, and I'd prefer them out of the playoffs.

When Tucker came in, I thought game over. Here it goes again, we played good but lost  . When he missed, I couldn't believe it.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

When Tucker came in, I thought game over. Here it goes again, we played good but lost  . When he missed, I couldn't believe it.

I was watching the game on my phone. So I was watching with nfl+. Right when he kicked it the game went out. I thought for sure he had made it. Then I go look at twitter and I was shocked it was short.

[Yoshinator]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

When Tucker came in, I thought game over. Here it goes again, we played good but lost  . When he missed, I couldn't believe it.

 

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I was watching the game on my phone. So I was watching with nfl+. Right when he kicked it the game went out. I thought for sure he had made it. Then I go look at twitter and I was shocked it was short.

I didn't have the game on TV til it went to OT, so I was looking at gametracker. I was waiting for the score change to say final, but it updated with no score change and said it missed. I was so excited! Thought yes! We have a chance! I was so excited that Matt Gay got to hit four 50-yard FGs in the same game! That's a record! That made my day. Love to be happy and brag about my team. That was a boost to my day!

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I was watching the game on my phone. So I was watching with nfl+. Right when he kicked it the game went out. I thought for sure he had made it. Then I go look at twitter and I was shocked it was short.

It was online and looked good but was barely short. I just Youtube Colts celebrating win. AR went over to Mustache and picked him like he weighed 5 pounds hugged him, rubbed him on the head and said thank you! Then the guys in the locker room all just tackles Matt Gay saying GOAT  . This is a team I love already, great locker room vibes. Taylor has to see this and wants to join. 

[compuls1v3]

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Well, the first requirement for successful broadcasting is to have a pleasant voice.  Radio voices are usually deep because they are less grating on the ears.  Somehow, she missed that screening.

Agreed.

[Superman]

Some of my thoughts:

 

1) Worst broadcast team ever. Let's just get that out of the way. Why do they have a three team booth when these people have no chemistry? They spent most of the biggest moments talking over each other. That stretch of time from the safety to the end of regulation was tragic. And I bet we get this crew a couple more times this year...

 

2) Matt Gay with a monster game, out dueling Justin Tucker in real time. Feels good to have the kicker position in great shape, first time since 2018.

 

3) JuJu Brents looked big, fast, physical, and was all over the field. No doubt he's going to make some mistakes, but this is what I think we can get from a young secondary when they're playing well, and it's why I'm not super concerned with the DBs for this year. 

 

4) Minshew is a really good backup. This is what I've always wanted from a backup QB, the ability to keep the offense on track for a couple weeks at a time, when needed. He isn't spectacular, but he's confident, efficient, tough, and keeps his head on straight. 

 

5) Gus Bradley found the blitz chapter in his playbook. This is a guy who hates to blitz, and he just kept them coming all game long. And he did it because this is the book on Lamar Jackson -- his efficiency against zero/1 coverages with 5 or more rushers is dramatically lower than it is against 2/3 deep with only 4 rushers, and we've known this for more than three years now. Compare this game with what Eberflus did against Lamar in 2020 and 2021. One of my biggest criticisms of Bradley is his rigidity, but he showed some serious adaptability yesterday, and it helped us win that game.

 

6) I still think the OL is problematic, especially in the run game. We're pretty bad in short yardage, and that's been the case with two QBs and two different RBs. Still need settling at RG, and Braden Smith has been up and down. 

 

7) Zach Moss is productive, but there doesn't seem to be anything special about him. And yet, he's 100 times better than Deon Jackson was in the opener. And I guess Isaiah McKenzie is a scat back?? If JT comes back at 100%, it should be really good for our offense.

 

8) We got a lot of lucky breaks in this game. I'm not complaining, but I'm also kind of pumping the brakes on some of the 'take the Colts seriously' stuff. Still only scored 22 points with OT, couldn't convert in short yardage, only got into the red zone twice, and Lamar still kind of had his way with us. We have three very winnable games coming up, but the Browns defense looks incredible, so I kind of have that circled as the biggest test coming up. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

8 minutes ago, Superman said:

Some of my thoughts:

 

1) Worst broadcast team ever. Let's just get that out of the way. Why do they have a three team booth when these people have no chemistry? They spent most of the biggest moments talking over each other. That stretch of time from the safety to the end of regulation was tragic. And I bet we get this crew a couple more times this year...

 

2) Matt Gay with a monster game, out dueling Justin Tucker in real time. Feels good to have the kicker position in great shape, first time since 2018.

 

3) JuJu Brents looked big, fast, physical, and was all over the field. No doubt he's going to make some mistakes, but this is what I think we can get from a young secondary when they're playing well, and it's why I'm not super concerned with the DBs for this year. 

 

4) Minshew is a really good backup. This is what I've always wanted from a backup QB, the ability to keep the offense on track for a couple weeks at a time, when needed. He isn't spectacular, but he's confident, efficient, tough, and keeps his head on straight. 

 

5) Gus Bradley found the blitz chapter in his playbook. This is a guy who hates to blitz, and he just kept them coming all game long. And he did it because this is the book on Lamar Jackson -- his efficiency against zero/1 coverages with 5 or more rushers is dramatically lower than it is against 2/3 deep with only 4 rushers, and we've known this for more than three years now. Compare this game with what Eberflus did against Lamar in 2020 and 2021. One of my biggest criticisms of Bradley is his rigidity, but he showed some serious adaptability yesterday, and it helped us win that game.

 

6) I still think the OL is problematic, especially in the run game. We're pretty bad in short yardage, and that's been the case with two QBs and two different RBs. Still need settling at RG, and Braden Smith has been up and down. 

 

7) Zach Moss is productive, but there doesn't seem to be anything special about him. And yet, he's 100 times better than Deon Jackson was in the opener. And I guess Isaiah McKenzie is a scat back?? If JT comes back at 100%, it should be really good for our offense.

 

8) We got a lot of lucky breaks in this game. I'm not complaining, but I'm also kind of pumping the brakes on some of the 'take the Colts seriously' stuff. Still only scored 22 points with OT, couldn't convert in short yardage, only got into the red zone twice, and Lamar still kind of had his way with us. We have three very winnable games coming up, but the Browns defense looks incredible, so I kind of have that circled as the biggest test coming up. 

8 points I can't find one I disagree with, amazing 

 

To your point 8 we did play without AR and Taylor. Probably our 2 most important players. Some may not like the Taylor excuse, but he is a top 3 at his position like it or not.

[Superman]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

To your point 8 we did play without AR and Taylor. Probably our 2 most important players. Some may not like the Taylor excuse, but he is a top 3 at his position like it or not.

 

It's a fair point, but then we have to bring up that the Ravens were without 8 starters. And that Justin Tucker didn't save the day like he normally does. And that the Ravens totally mismanaged the clock after the safety. Etc. I also think there's a lot more variance with Richardson than there is with Minshew. He might have made a few more plays, but he also might have turned the ball over or missed a dump off...

 

I think the Ravens are a pretty good team, but they weren't at full strength and didn't play their best game. So I'm not exactly convinced that the Colts are on their level. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

FWIW Ravens have only allowed like one TD in their last five games at home dating back to last year. Heard that stat on a podcast this morning. Anytime you can get our of Baltimore with a win that’s a very good thing.

[Solid84]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

If and say IF, we win the next 2 games and get to 4-1. We will win the division. Book it. That would already give us a win over Houston and Tennessee at that point.

I think we’ll have to beat the Jags in Jacksonville before that is a “book it”. We’ve trouble there for some years now, but I think it’s doable this season. 
 

I also think we need to beat the Titans at least once.