Waiver wire pick ups discussion (MERGE) Title Updated pg 10.

[Hawkeyecolt]

7 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

Wow, didn’t expect that. 

Brown was the only other CB that played slot.  He’s good on ST’s too. Jones outplayed Rush

[AKB]

really shocked we waived Rush

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Brown was the only other CB that played slot.  He’s good on ST’s too. Jones outplayed Rush

I like Brown a lot last pre-season have to admit he didn’t make an impression on me good or bad this pre-season.

[KB]

1 minute ago, AKB said:

really shocked we waived Rush

It makes zero sense to me. 

[Stephen]

Just now, KB said:

It makes zero sense to me. 

That and 4 wrs

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, Stephen said:

That and 4 wrs

Final cuts does not equal opening day roster.  I can assure there will be a move of some kind to add a WR or two before week one.

[AKB]

6 minutes ago, Stephen said:

That and 4 wrs

the 4 wrs makes sense, because we are probably gonna pickup 2

 

but waiving a young, promising CB at one of our thinnest positions def doesn't make sense. 

[JColts72]

7 minutes ago, KB said:

It makes zero sense to me. 

Again we are talking about a Ballard move here 

[TaylorStillTruckedYou]

8 minutes ago, AKB said:

Roby mainly an outside corner isn't he?

I think they maybe interchanged him, but could be wrong.  I don’t follow the Saints too much

[1959Colts]

18 minutes ago, Shive said:

I thought he actually looked pretty decent for a 5th round pick.

I now regret posting that, I was thinking Rush was an early pick. I thought 2nd or 3rd round.

Remember how pre draft everyone was saying how he was the perfect fit for Indy and how all the mocks had us taking him day 2.

Still is a drag he was cut, but I suppose sometimes you miss?

[AKB]

7 minutes ago, TaylorStillTruckedYou said:

I think they maybe interchanged him, but could be wrong.  I don’t follow the Saints too much

i remmeber his OG days with Denver, he was almost always outside iirc

[hoosierhawk]

8 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

Again we are talking about a Ballard move here 

So Ballard makes all these roster cuts with no input from the coaching staff. Is that your interpretation?

[Shive]

8 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

I now regret posting that, I was thinking Rush was an early pick. I thought 2nd or 3rd round.

Remember how pre draft everyone was saying how he was the perfect fit for Indy and how all the mocks had us taking him day 2.

Still is a drag he was cut, but I suppose sometimes you miss?

There were a lot of projections that had him going that high. Just have to hope he makes it through to the PS now.

[TaylorStillTruckedYou]

5 minutes ago, AKB said:

i remmeber his OG days with Denver, he was almost always outside iirc

You’re probably right though, granted I did see this information on Bleacher Report, so I wouldn’t be surprised if they are giving bad info.  The app has been going down hill since they lost twitter

[JColts72]

5 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

So Ballard makes all these roster cuts with no input from the coaching staff. Is that your interpretation?

No, input from others then final call? But who knows. Are we carrying 4 or 5 TE? 

[BeanDiasucci]

14 minutes ago, AKB said:

the 4 wrs makes sense, because we are probably gonna pickup 2

 

but waiving a young, promising CB at one of our thinnest positions def doesn't make sense. 

I keep wondering why people seem to be assuming our young CBs will be good once they get experience. Maybe. Maybe not. We'll see. It's an iffy situation.

[1959Colts]

So we kept Sam Ehlinger?

[1959Colts]

 

DE McTelvin Agim and LB Cameron McGrone are few surprises for me making the final 53

[KB]

Just now, Stephen said:

That and 4 wrs

Hopefully that means moves are coming from the waiver wire. I don't believe for a second that Tony Brown is better or has a higher ceiling that Rush.

[1959Colts]

3 minutes ago, KB said:

Hopefully that means moves are coming from the waiver wire. I don't believe for a second that Tony Brown is better or has a higher ceiling that Rush.

They must really like Brown on STs?

[1959Colts]

<<Sorry I did not see the separate thread for the roster>> 

 

Here is the updated 53 man Roster

https://www.colts.com/news/53-man-roster-breakdown-cuts-jonathan-taylor-darius-rush-quarterbacks:

 

QUARTERBACKS (3): Sam Ehlinger, Gardner Minshew, Anthony Richardson

RUNNING BACKS (3): Evan Hull, Deon Jackson, Zack Moss

WIDE RECEIVERS (4): Josh Downs, Isaiah McKenzie, Alec Pierce, Michael Pittman Jr.

TIGHT ENDS (5): Mo Alie-Cox, Kylen Granson, Will Mallory, Drew Ogletree, Jelani Woods

OFFENSIVE LINE (9): Blake Freeland, Wesley French, Will Fries, Arlington Hambright, Ryan Kelly, Quenton Nelson, Carter O'Donnell, Bernhard Raimann, Braden Smith

 

DEFENSIVE LINE (10): Adetomiwa Adebawore, McTelvin Agim, Taven Bryan, DeForest Buckner, Eric Johnson II, Grover Stewart, Samson Ebukam, Tyquan Lewis, Dayo Odeyingbo, Kwity Paye

LINEBACKERS (6): Zaire Franklin, Shaquille Leonard, Segun Olubi, Cameron McGrone, EJ Speed, Grant Stuard

CORNERBACKS (6): Darrell Baker Jr., JuJu Brents, Tony Brown, Dallis Flowers, Jaylon Jones, Kenny Moore II

SAFETIES (4): Julian Blackmon, Nick Cross, Trevor Denbow, Rodney Thomas II

 

SPECIAL TEAMS (3): PK Matt Gay, LS Luke Rhodes, P Rigoberto Sanchez

[w87r]

So couple questions.

 

 

Was thinking about updating my OL cuts list

 

1. Was thinking about locking this thread, since most talk is in the Final roster thread. And starting a waiver wire thread for guys available? Sound ok?

2. Is there anyone that would like to, make a list for:

WR

TE

whatever other position you think we should look at?(ie, RB?) To be posted over there, if I start one.

 

 

Can just leave it here I suppose?

 

 

Thoughts?

 

 

 

[RomanianColtsFan]

55 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

 

DE McTelvin Agim and LB Cameron McGrone are few surprises for me making the final 53

 I can see those 2 cut sometime tomorrow 

[CoachLite]

2 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

Final cuts does not equal opening day roster.  I can assure there will be a move of some kind to add a WR or two before week one.

Now begins the musical chairs of waiving, releasing, signing and re-signing people we have cut. Drives me crazy, but what do I know?

[w87r]

2 minutes ago, CoachLite said:

Now begins the musical chairs of waiving, releasing, signing and re-signing people we have cut. Drives me crazy, but what do I know?

I love this time, Taylor situation only thing driving me crazy right now.

[CoachLite]

Just now, w87r said:

I love this time, Taylor situation only thing driving me crazy right now.

This is where the GM really earns his money. He's got to have big cahones.

[Hawkeyecolt]

1 hour ago, RomanianColtsFan said:

 I can see those 2 cut sometime tomorrow 

I thought Agim outplayed Bryan and deserved to be on the team. 
 

Let’s not make a big deal about the 4 WR’s. With the new PS rules, vets like Winfree and Montgomery can be stashed there until they need a 5th receiver. 

[w87r]

Just now, Hawkeyecolt said:

I thought Agim outplayed Bryan and deserved to be on the team. 

Agim did play pretty well, I imagine one will be gone tomorrow.

[holeymoley99]

2 minutes ago, w87r said:

Agim did play pretty well, I imagine one will be gone tomorrow.

Bryan looked solid in limited snaps, started 16 games last year and did well so cant see him going anywhere honestly. 

[w87r]

1 minute ago, holeymoley99 said:

Bryan looked solid in limited snaps, started 16 games last year and did well so cant see him going anywhere honestly. 

Probably more than likely will be Agim? Hopefully we can get him to squad.

[JColts72]

Can we get more TE as 5 is not enough. What a foolish plan to have so many.

[Patrick Miller]

I can’t believe we kept MAC again. He must be blackmailing Ballard or something. I mean seriously has the guy ever made a difference? I’d rather go with the young guys.

[w87r]

1 minute ago, JColts72 said:

Can we get more TE as 5 is not enough. What a foolish plan to have so many.

We kept 5 because we had to.

 

If we put Woods on IR before cut downs he wouldn't of been able to play this year.

 

 

We will be down to 4 TEs tomorrow after Woods is placed IR. (He will miss minimum 4 games).

[w87r]

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/news/potential-waiver-wire-indianapolis-colts-trevis-gipson#gid=ci02c811acd0002578&pid=usatsi_21222448

 

 

Nice article on potential fits for us.

[w87r]

My waiver wire hopefuls 

 

Waiver Claims:(any combo potentially 4 of 6, would be ideal)

WR - Winfree or Rodgers 

WR/SPT - Britain Covey, Philadelphia Eagles

G - Darian Kinnard, Kansas City Chiefs

T/G - Tyre Phillips, New York Giants

DL - Trevis Gipson, Chicago Bears

C - Brett Toth, Philadelphia Eagles

G - Tyrese Robinson, Philadelphia Eagles

 

IR:

Woods

Fries(Maybe?) Depends on calf news, decent chance.

Brents(Maybe?) He isn't ready yet to compete I don't think. They could IR him then bring Rush back if he is healthy and clears waivers.

 

First cuts:

O'Donnell

Agim

McGrone

Lewis

 

Potential other cuts:

Sam

Mo(probably not)

Hambright(only if we get multiple claims.

 

 

 

A lot of moving parts tomorrow.

 

[Hawkeyecolt]

I thought Bryan was pretty unnoticeable.  I saw one rep where he got a decent push on a pass rush. I think Agim provides a little better run support while being just as good rushing the passer. 

[JColts72]

23 minutes ago, w87r said:

We kept 5 because we had to.

 

If we put Woods on IR before cut downs he wouldn't of been able to play this year.

 

 

We will be down to 4 TEs tomorrow after Woods is placed IR. (He will miss minimum 4 games).

Still too many. Be good if all the skills needed were just in one of them. 1 to block, 1 to catch short, 1 to catch long, 1 for what?

[bertjones7]

Not sure if already mentioned, but Rams cut their 2022 3rd pick Logan Bruss g/t wisconsin.  Tore his ACL last year, but generally viewed as a good RG prospect.  Seems like someone Ballard would be interested in.

[w87r]

1 minute ago, JColts72 said:

Still too many. Be good if all the skills needed were just in one of them. 1 to block, 1 to catch short, 1 to catch long, 1 for what?

Even if you think someone is redundant, all it takes is 1 injury. If Woods was healthy, I'm pretty sure MAC would be gone, for instance.

 

Mo - only vet/block

Granson - played the best in preseason

Ogletree - reports that he is the best all around on team(think he might be the one you're clamoring for)

Mallory - Led ALL rookies Offense + Defense in PFF score in the preseason (over 90)

Woods - to be put on IR 

 

 

Probably a sign we will run a lot of 2 TE sets as well.

 

TE is probably our strongest room at the moment and I have no problem with it.

 

 

 

 

I think to much fuss is being made about where the roster sets right now. All that matters is what it looks like tomorrow afternoon. Arguably 4-8 moves could be made.

 

Then which of these guys we get back to the PS.

[bertjones7]

Colts big UDFA signing last year highly athletic Ryan Van Demark OT was on bills practice squad last year and reportedly made a lot of progress..He made the bills  "the initial 53-man roster as the team’s swing tackle, having shown progress and upside at both left and right tackle during the preseason."