MLB 2021 Season: It's Your Pitch, Jay Kirk

[2006Coltsbestever]

These are the kinds of dumb posts you get over at Youtube. I was reading the gameday thread of Cubs and Reds. Cubs fans were enjoying the moment with their posts and a Reds fan said we are in 2nd place and you guys haven't done anything since 2016. I about fell out of my chair here at work. "Haven't done anything since 2016", that is comical. By that logic the Reds haven't done anything since 1990. Cards haven't even won a WS since 2011. The Cubs just won the Division last year. Reds are 1.5 games ahead of the Cubs and we are in sell mode , it isn't like the Reds are 10 games ahead. By the way I like the Reds but some fans in general ruin it. Some people are so jealous over the Cubs being great over the last 6 years that it is comical. Brewers fans can put a zipper on it period until they win a WS, until then they are irrelevant to any kind of greatness discussion. I just ignore their hate because it isn't worth my time, they are the worst  . 

[Myles]

9 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Cubs beat the Reds 6-5 but at this point it is tough to get excited about any win since the narrative by everyone at ESPN and Fox are just saying sell, sell, sell Cubbies. That is the only team they are doing that with that much chatter. Cubs are 50-51 just a half game behind the 50-50 Cards, the Reds are now 51-49 - those teams are basically even. However for some reason, Hoyer is in sell mode and the media keeps pushing for KB to be traded?? An article today on ESPN, says KB to the Mets? That was their starting point. If we trade KB that will be the dumbest thing we have done in years. How about Goldschmidt to the Yankees?  - you will never hear that because the media loves the Cards. Nah lets just break up the 2nd best team over the last 6 years because the media says so (Only LA has been better). Hoyer is puzzling to me right now. He is turning into Jerry Jones as the days go by.

I think you just notice things more because you are a Cubs fan.    I think the media is always pretty positive on the Cubs.   Sure there will always be a * here and there.   Don't let it get to you.   If the media pushes the Cubs GM to trade players, he is not a good GM.   You may see more about Bryant than any Cards player because he is younger and better.   That's probably why you do not want to see him traded.  

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

2 hours ago, Myles said:

I think you just notice things more because you are a Cubs fan.    I think the media is always pretty positive on the Cubs.   Sure there will always be a * here and there.   Don't let it get to you.   If the media pushes the Cubs GM to trade players, he is not a good GM.   You may see more about Bryant than any Cards player because he is younger and better.   That's probably why you do not want to see him traded.  

I mean with regards to the media, it is more the announcers for ESPN and Fox that do it in a dumb way,

 

 

In other news, BOS is looking at Rizzo, Rays are looking at KB.

 

Chafin after Ross told him he was getting traded, "I have one bad outing and you trade me" (after his 25ip no run streak was snapped)

 

Javy wont be traded, (injury and all). The stupidest two proposed Trade deals I saw this year, Rizzo to the Brewers and Javy to the Reds. Neither would ever happen. Also, Javy cannot be on the same team as Garrett they would be fighting everyday. I am certain Javy will get hit next time he faces him.

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

Well in some bad news, Nico got hurt and we are down to our third SS. In fun news, our third SS is Kris Bryant. He has now played, 1B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF this season 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

Well in some bad news, Nico got hurt and we are down to our third SS. In fun news, our third SS is Kris Bryant. He has now played, 1B, 3B, SS, LF, CF, RF this season 

I am not sure anyone has ever played 6 different positions in 1 season. Crazy great stuff! We are about to lose but nobody is catching the Brewers in the division anyway. Cards lost again today. Brewers are just beating up on the hapless Pirates in their series. 

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I am not sure anyone has ever played 6 different positions in 1 season. Crazy great stuff! We are about to lose but nobody is catching the Brewers in the division anyway. Cards lost again today. Brewers are just beating up on the hapless Pirates in their series. 

I believe Kris did a few years ago. And someone has played all 9, but that was gimmick (Andrew Romine, he's in Cubs AAA now). But no MVP capable, player ever done

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

I believe Kris did a few years ago. And someone has played all 9, but that was gimmick (Andrew Romine, he's in Cubs AAA now). But no MVP capable, player ever done

I think Kris should pitch an Inning, might as well  

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I think Kris should pitch an Inning, might as well  

I'm honestly surprised he hasn't played 2nd base before. Catcher I think would be a bit too much 

[Barry Sears]

The trading frenzy is well underway with a few deals done yesterday and more this morning.  Nothing involving the Cubs, Mets or Cardinals in the past 24 hours.  Just over 24 hours before the deadline, so I'm sure many more are coming.

 

Nationals are selling, Brewers adding more ammo, White Sox, Blue Jays, Yankees and A's have deals.  Meanwhile, the hottest team in baseball other than the Brewers is the Tigers!

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

Cubs are sitting KB and Rizzo today. Their next game will be Friday night after trade deadline so lets see what happens

[Myles]

Cardinals are sitting 

Molina

Arenado

Carpenter

DeJong

Edman

Bader

O'Neil

 

and a few others today.

 

 

[buccolts]

O.K., let me jump in here  for the obvious joke.

 

The Pirates are sitting today.

 

IMPORTANT EDIT: Hayes may play today. All 9 positions. At the same time. Take that KB

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

1 hour ago, Myles said:

Cardinals are sitting 

C Molina

3B Arenado

1B Carpenter

SS DeJong

2B Edman

CF Bader

LF O'Neil

 

and a few others today.

 

 

 

 

Now all you guys need is an Right fielder and you will have your lineup constructed for the bench!

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

In Cubs trade news, Ryan Tepera is going to the the White Sox for Minor League pitcher

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

The biggest shocker, Rizzo was traded to the Yankees!

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

And now, Trea Turner and Max Scherzer are going to the Dodgers, for a big prospect package

[HOZER]

Huge fan of Rizzo, this just sucks. Don’t think it’s  over either.

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, HOZER said:

Huge fan of Rizzo, this just sucks. Don’t think it’s  over either.

Rizzo getting traded is a shocker, I didn't see that coming. He was a huge part of our 2016 Championship team. Right now the only team I see interested in KB are the Mets. Hoyer may be asking a lot for KB is why, and he should be. I hope KB doesn't get traded. I am 99% certain Baez isn't going anywhere, can never be 100% certain lol.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Rizzo is a little up in age but I still didn't see him getting traded. I hope the team builds around KB, Baez, and Contreras who are all still in their 20's and we get some good starting pitching. Jake will probably retire at the end of the season so that is more money that we will have as well.

[RollerColt]

On 7/27/2021 at 3:17 AM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

These are the kinds of dumb posts you get over at Youtube. I was reading the gameday thread of Cubs and Reds. Cubs fans were enjoying the moment with their posts and a Reds fan said we are in 2nd place and you guys haven't done anything since 2016. I about fell out of my chair here at work. "Haven't done anything since 2016", that is comical. By that logic the Reds haven't done anything since 1990. Cards haven't even won a WS since 2011. The Cubs just won the Division last year. Reds are 1.5 games ahead of the Cubs and we are in sell mode , it isn't like the Reds are 10 games ahead. By the way I like the Reds but some fans in general ruin it. Some people are so jealous over the Cubs being great over the last 6 years that it is comical. Brewers fans can put a zipper on it period until they win a WS, until then they are irrelevant to any kind of greatness discussion. I just ignore their hate because it isn't worth my time, they are the worst  . 

Good lord, whoever that person is, they don’t sound like a typical Reds fan. We’ve been trash since I was 2 (1990), and have no right to smack talk anyone. 
 

That * is obviously a troll and a loser. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, RollerColt said:

Good lord, whoever that person is, they don’t sound like a typical Reds fan. We’ve been trash since I was 2 (1990), and have no right to smack talk anyone. 
 

That * is obviously a troll and a loser. 

There are a lot of them that post on youtube game threads. There are Cubs trolls too so we are not innocent  . Brewers fans are the worse by a mile though. ESPN was the same way when they allowed posting. ESPN doesn't allow posting anymore and my guess is, it is because way too much trolling. Looks like the Reds beat the Cubs 3 out of 4. Congrats on the series win. Cubs are pretty much done for this season, Reds still have a slim chance to catch the Brewers but I don't see it. Looks like the stinkin Brewers will win the Central.

[RollerColt]

3 hours ago, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

The biggest shocker, Rizzo was traded to the Yankees!

I’m still shocked… he was the glue to that team. Got the final out for the WS win, and meant so much to the city. 
 

They should’ve traded away friggin’ David Ross and have someone else manage. 

[RollerColt]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

There are a lot of them that post on youtube game threads. There are Cubs trolls too so we are not innocent  . Brewers fans are the worse by a mile though. ESPN was the same way when they allowed posting. ESPN doesn't allow posting anymore and my guess is, it is because way too much trolling. Looks like the Reds beat the Cubs 3 out of 4. Congrats on the series win. Cubs are pretty much done for this season, Reds still have a slim chance to catch the Brewers but I don't see it. Looks like the stinkin Brewers will win the Central.

For sure. The Brewers are too far out of reach at this point. The only chance (less than 1%) is for the Padres to just completely collapse.  Not gonna happen…

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, RollerColt said:

I’m still shocked… he was the glue to that team. Got the final out for the WS win, and meant so much to the city. 
 

They should’ve traded away friggin’ David Ross and have someone else manage. 

Yeah, although KB is our best player, Rizzo was our leader. KB isn't vocal like Rizzo is. KB just plays and lets his talent do the talking. Baez IMO is pretty vocal at times, he leads sort of like Rizzo.

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

For sure. The Brewers are too far out of reach at this point. The only chance (less than 1%) is for the Padres to just completely collapse.  Not gonna happen…

Yeah I was hoping the Brewers would collapse  . I don't see it happening nor do I see the Padres collapsing either. Reds are having a pretty good year regardless. They are fun to watch at least.

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

24 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Rizzo getting traded is a shocker, I didn't see that coming. He was a huge part of our 2016 Championship team. Right now the only team I see interested in KB are the Mets. Hoyer may be asking a lot for KB is why, and he should be. I hope KB doesn't get traded. I am 99% certain Baez isn't going anywhere, can never be 100% certain lol.

Giants, Ray, Dodgers were but not now after getting turner. Kimbrel is our next big trade and then KB. 

 

Rizzo seemed different this year though, just like her knew it was the end for him. Just kinda the way he seemed. I am still shock.

 

Kyle Schwarber was traded from Nationals to Boston 

[2006Coltsbestever]

I don't think Ross is a bad manager, he has been actually above average for the most part, nothing special but better than average. Maddon was great his 1st 4 years (2015-2018) but wore out his welcome and became stale in 2019. So the Cubs were put in a tough position before 2020 deciding who to hire. Ross was refreshing to the team in 2020 (the players loved him) and we won the division but we look like we are playing like 2019 again. Ever since the talk started about selling we haven't really looked right either. The team seemed not to have  much chemistry after that.

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

Giants, Ray, Dodgers were but not now after getting turner. Kimbrel is our next big trade and then KB. 

 

Rizzo seemed different this year though, just like her knew it was the end for him. Just kinda the way he seemed. I am still shock.

 

Kyle Schwarber was traded from Nationals to Boston 

As of now I only see the Mets interested in KB and the deadline is tomorrow so he may not get traded.

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

30 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

As of now I only see the Mets interested in KB and the deadline is tomorrow so he may not get traded.

I am stating what has been reported, those were the teams I would keep seeing being in on him. Mets are the biggest and most consistent but not only

[Myles]

The Nationals are all in on rebuilding.    I haven't seen all they got in return, but I assume they now have a stocked minor league.  

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

2 hours ago, Myles said:

The Nationals are all in on rebuilding.    I haven't seen all they got in return, but I assume they now have a stocked minor league.  

From what I saw, the top two players in the dodgers system (once trade is official, there some weird stuff going on there) are going to the Nats, which would really shoot them up the rankings. 

 

In fun news, this weekend's Cubs/Nats games will be the battle of the sell-offs

[Barry Sears]

14 hours ago, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

And now, Trea Turner and Max Scherzer are going to the Dodgers, for a big prospect package

 

This pisses me off!  Why is it the Dodgers do this every year?  What's the point of a salary cap with a luxury tax if a team is allowed to go over the cap and pay the tax?  What's the point in a cap?  There's 2-3 teams with the money to pay whatever luxury tax is imposed AND they get all the players they want, despite the cost of the player.

 

MLB has to do something about this.

[Myles]

4 minutes ago, Barry Sears said:

 

This pisses me off!  Why is it the Dodgers do this every year?  What's the point of a salary cap with a luxury tax if a team is allowed to go over the cap and pay the tax?  What's the point in a cap?  There's 2-3 teams with the money to pay whatever luxury tax is imposed AND they get all the players they want, despite the cost of the player.

 

MLB has to do something about this.

The Dodgers are in a big market.   MLB will let them be.  

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

1 hour ago, Barry Sears said:

 

This pisses me off!  Why is it the Dodgers do this every year?  What's the point of a salary cap with a luxury tax if a team is allowed to go over the cap and pay the tax?  What's the point in a cap?  There's 2-3 teams with the money to pay whatever luxury tax is imposed AND they get all the players they want, despite the cost of the player.

 

MLB has to do something about this.

It isnt a salary cap, (some teams use it as an excuse but it is not) And it is the reason you guys get revenue sharing from the Cubs, Yankees, Dodgers etc. Same reason you guys get competitive balance picks. The MLB is setup to have the big market teams spend a lot while smaller market get the use of special things. 

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

Kimbrel off to the Dodgers, and the biggest shocker I did not expect, Javy Baez off to the Mets @NFLfan. The Cubs only remaining infielder is KB. That I would never have expected

[Barry Sears]

8 minutes ago, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

Kimbrel off to the Dodgers, and the biggest shocker I did not expect, Javy Baez off to the Mets @NFLfan. The Cubs only remaining infielder is KB. That I would never have expected

Wow, Cubs have cleaned house as have the Nationals.  The NL West will be interesting to watch with the Dodgers and Padres making moves to try and catch the Giants.

 

Jays and Yankees making moves, as well as the Rays to catch the Red Sox.  Looks like the White Sox and Astros have their divisions wrapped up.  White Sox still made moves to improve.  Twins also in big selling mode.

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

10 minutes ago, Barry Sears said:

Wow, Cubs have cleaned house as have the Nationals.  The NL West will be interesting to watch with the Dodgers and Padres making moves to try and catch the Giants.

 

Jays and Yankees making moves, as well as the Rays to catch the Red Sox.  Looks like the White Sox and Astros have their divisions wrapped up.  White Sox still made moves to improve.  Twins also in big selling mode.

Mets also got Trevor Williams in Deal. This is really hard time to be a Cubs fan, even our crappy years it wasnt like this

[Barry Sears]

Just now, PuntersArePeopleToo said:

Mets also got Trevor Williams in Deal. This is really hard time to be a Cubs fan, even our crappy years it wasnt like this

Will be interesting to see the evaluation on the players they got in return for all these deals.  I would be very disappointed if I were a Cubs fan and seeing them disassemble like this in just a couple of days.

[PuntersArePeopleToo]

Just now, Barry Sears said:

Will be interesting to see the evaluation on the players they got in return for all these deals.  I would be very disappointed if I were a Cubs fan and seeing them disassemble like this in just a couple of days.

I am incredibly. We got their Number 5 Prospect, an outfielder, is all ik

 

[Barry Sears]

Cardinals make a deal!!  We got a washed up pitcher from the Twins...J.A. Happ.  The division is ours!!!  LOL