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[BlueShoe]

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[Horse Shoe Heaven]

 Hopefully that doesn't affect him with the Browns marijuana should be legal anyway he's a good player 

[DougDew]

Why do people get so worked up about weed?  I mean, if it all just suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth, would your life really be less enjoyable or rewarding?  If so, you've got a problem.

[crazycolt1]

4 hours ago, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

 Hopefully that doesn't affect him with the Browns marijuana should be legal anyway he's a good player 

 

1 hour ago, DougDew said:

Why do people get so worked up about weed?  I mean, if it all just suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth, would your life really be less enjoyable or rewarding?  If so, you've got a problem.

Well if weed just suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth our prisons would only be half full. Our insurance rates would go down. Our police departments wouldn't need so much tax money, people or equipment. The lawyers would have to find another source of income. They would have to find different uses for our prison buildings. Nah, you have a problem if you cant see the big picture.

[DougDew]

39 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

Well if weed just suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth our prisons would only be half full. Our insurance rates would go down. Our police departments wouldn't need so much tax money, people or equipment. The lawyers would have to find another source of income. They would have to find different uses for our prison buildings. Nah, you have a problem if you cant see the big picture.

Please, be less dramatic and political.  My dad was addicted to nicotine.  He chained smoked.  It dictated what kind of car he drove (the location of the ashtray), what hotel we stayed at, who he hung out with, etc.  His life revolved around his addiction.  The absence of the substance was a huge deal to him whenever he tried to quit.  The presence of it made him happy.  

 

If a person jeopardizes a million dollar job in order to get stoned, getting stoned is not just a casual part of his life.  Its a BIG part of his life.  So its no different than an athlete who would be addicted to nicotine and was a heavy smoker.  He smokes frequently.  Yet, we would all laugh at the athlete who repeatedly smoked cigarettes in his off hours.  A football player or basketball player who would be "in possession" of a pack of Marlboro's on his day off on a golf course, would be thought of as an unserious athlete.  Somehow in the current century, smoking pot instead of tobacco makes a person well-reasoned, intellectual, and virtuous.

 

I wish people would stop using this forum to advocate their political biases, especially trying to disguise it as a reasonable discussion about a substance people use to get stoned, if that's even possible. 

[WoolMagnet]

2 hours ago, DougDew said:

Why do people get so worked up about weed?  I mean, if it all just suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth, would your life really be less enjoyable or rewarding?  If so, you've got a problem.

Kinda like ex-girlfriends ?

[crazycolt1]

2 hours ago, DougDew said:

Please, be less dramatic and political.  My dad was addicted to nicotine.  He chained smoked.  It dictated what kind of car he drove (the location of the ashtray), what hotel we stayed at, who he hung out with, etc.  His life revolved around his addiction.  The absence of the substance was a huge deal to him whenever he tried to quit.  The presence of it made him happy.  

 

If a person jeopardizes a million dollar job in order to get stoned, getting stoned is not just a casual part of his life.  Its a BIG part of his life.  So its no different than an athlete who would be addicted to nicotine and was a heavy smoker.  He smokes frequently.  Yet, we would all laugh at the athlete who repeatedly smoked cigarettes in his off hours.  A football player or basketball player who would be "in possession" of a pack of Marlboro's on his day off on a golf course, would be thought of as an unserious athlete.  Somehow in the current century, smoking pot instead of tobacco makes a person well-reasoned, intellectual, and virtuous.

 

I wish people would stop using this forum to advocate their political biases, especially trying to disguise it as a reasonable discussion about a substance people use to get stoned, if that's even possible. 

What? Sorry, put the bong down.

[Jason_]

4 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

Well if weed just suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth our prisons would only be half full. Our insurance rates would go down. Our police departments wouldn't need so much tax money, people or equipment. The lawyers would have to find another source of income. They would have to find different uses for our prison buildings. Nah, you have a problem if you cant see the big picture.

 

Because crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, LSD, Ecstasy etc all go away when weed does?  None of what you said would be happen if weed were to disappear.  

[Jason_]

3 hours ago, DougDew said:

Please, be less dramatic and political.  My dad was addicted to nicotine.  He chained smoked.  It dictated what kind of car he drove (the location of the ashtray), what hotel we stayed at, who he hung out with, etc.  His life revolved around his addiction.  The absence of the substance was a huge deal to him whenever he tried to quit.  The presence of it made him happy.  

 

If a person jeopardizes a million dollar job in order to get stoned, getting stoned is not just a casual part of his life.  Its a BIG part of his life.  So its no different than an athlete who would be addicted to nicotine and was a heavy smoker.  He smokes frequently.  Yet, we would all laugh at the athlete who repeatedly smoked cigarettes in his off hours.  A football player or basketball player who would be "in possession" of a pack of Marlboro's on his day off on a golf course, would be thought of as an unserious athlete.  Somehow in the current century, smoking pot instead of tobacco makes a person well-reasoned, intellectual, and virtuous.

 

I wish people would stop using this forum to advocate their political biases, especially trying to disguise it as a reasonable discussion about a substance people use to get stoned, if that's even possible. 

 

I somewhat agree with your very first sentence...somewhat.  The rest though? 

 

First, you can't become physically addicted to weed, only mentally.  That in and of itself makes it a very different type of addiction than addiction to nicotine. 

 

Second, if a person jeopardizes a million dollar job in order to get stoned, maybe he's just a big * that thinks he'll never get caught.  Or if he does get caught that his celebrity will help get him out of trouble.  It means he's dumb and/or incredibly careless.  It does not mean he's addicted to weed.

 

Third..."smoking pot instead of tobacco makes a person well-reasoned, intellectual, and virtuous."  

 

 

And finally..."a substance people used to get stoned, if that's even possible".  Well if it weren't possible, then there are a LOT of people wasting a LOT of money over something they're all collectively just imagining.

[crazycolt1]

27 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

Because crack, cocaine, heroin, meth, LSD, Ecstasy etc all go away when weed does?  None of what you said would be happen if weed were to disappear.  

There are more people arrested for weed than any of the other things you mentioned because more people use it.  Matter of fact there has been a huge rise in DUI or DWI for weed over the last few years. That has sky rocketed.

I have a very close friend who is a lawyer. His work case has more pot possessions and DWI than any other cases. He said for the time spent he makes the most money covering those cases. The Judges, court systems and lawyers love the easy money made off weed.

 

[Jason_]

2 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

There are more people arrested for weed than any of the other things you mentioned because more people use it.  Matter of fact there has been a huge rise in DUI or DWI for weed over the last few years. That has sky rocketed.

I have a very close friend who is a lawyer. His work case has more pot possessions and DWI than any other cases. He said for the time spent he makes the most money covering those cases. The Judges, court systems and lawyers love the easy money made off weed.

 

 

Most of that may very well be but it still doesn't make anything you said in the previous post any more true.    Sure, the lawyers would lose some of that easy money..but they wouldn't need to start looking at other types of income...they'd just start taking on different types of cases most likely simply involving other narcotics.

 

I defy you to find one single prison in the entire country that has a 50% population of criminals in on weed related charges.  Police departments would find other ways to use those funds.

 

Look, obviously there would be some societal changes if weed were to disappear, but the conclusions you drew a couple of posts ago....you burnt the exaggeration out of those conclusions and then smothered them in hyperbole sauce to try to cover up the smell.

[crazycolt1]

7 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

Most of that may very well be but it still doesn't make anything you said in the previous post any more true.    Sure, the lawyers would lose some of that easy money..but they wouldn't need to start looking at other types of income...they'd just start taking on different types of cases most likely simply involving other narcotics.

 

I defy you to find one single prison in the entire country that has a 50% population of criminals in on weed related charges.  Police departments would find other ways to use those funds.

 

Look, obviously there would be some societal changes if weed were to disappear, but the conclusions you drew a couple of posts ago....you burnt the exaggeration out of those conclusions and then smothered them in hyperbole sauce to try to cover up the smell.

There is one thing you failed to mention. You mentioned crack, coke, LSD ect.. ect..  They all have one thing in common. It  99% of it started with smoking weed.

[Jason_]

3 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

There is one thing you failed to mention. You mentioned crack, coke, LSD ect.. ect..  They all have one thing in common. It  99% of it started with smoking weed.

 

I didn't mention it because it's completely irrelevant to what would happen today if weed simply disappeared. 

 

And it didn't start with weed...it started with man's innate desire to get into an altered state of mind.  I'd be more inclined to say it started with alcohol.

[PrincetonTiger]

Boy has this discussion gone off the rails

[Jason_]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Boy has this discussion gone off the rails

 

You're not new...that's what happens to most discussions around here. lol

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

You're not new...that's what happens to most discussions around here. lol

 I have done it before but towards history 

[ricker182]

On 9/5/2017 at 3:57 PM, dodsworth said:

It should be legalized anyway. No biggie.

While I agree, it is still against the rules.  

  

If he's willing to throw everything away for pot, then he isn't committed IMO.  

 

Same way I feel about Josh Gordon.  

Unbelievable talent. Really undisciplined.

[PrincetonTiger]

8 minutes ago, ricker182 said:

While I agree, it is still against the rules.  

  

If he's willing to throw everything away for pot, then he isn't committed IMO.  

 

Same way I feel about Josh Gordon.  

Unbelievable talent. Really undisciplined.

Feel the same way

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

15 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

Well if weed just suddenly disappeared off the face of the earth our prisons would only be half full. Our insurance rates would go down. Our police departments wouldn't need so much tax money, people or equipment. The lawyers would have to find another source of income. They would have to find different uses for our prison buildings. Nah, you have a problem if you cant see the big picture.

I see the big picture and its really no big deal!! If you think weed is that bad each to his own, but really Police, Dept., tax dollars prison ect, I HIGHLY DOUBT that all that you have mentioned is because of marijuana! Very dramatic!! If you truly feel that way ALCOHOL is more on target, and both are LEGAL in some states.

[crazycolt1]

12 minutes ago, Horse Shoe Heaven said:

I see the big picture and its really no big deal!! If you think weed is that bad each to his own, but really Police, Dept., tax dollars prison ect, I HIGHLY DOUBT that all that you have mentioned is because of marijuana! Very dramatic!! If you truly feel that way ALCOHOL is more on target, and both are LEGAL in some states.

It's no big deal? It's illegal in all starts but 2. Medical use is legal in 20 states. So yes it still is a big deal when people can go to jail for it.

Look, I was a long time user of pot myself. I did have the will power not to let it cost me jobs or get me arrested. Pot use runs rampant in both sides of my family. I have seen both sides of what the use of pot can do. It may not be physical addictive but it is very mental addictive. So much so it cost jobs, stops educations, makes jail time for those who get caught, can lead to some who just dont care about anything but staying high. That includes losing their kids to the state.

Now is that dramatical enough for you?

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

9 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

It's no big deal? It's illegal in all starts but 2. Medical use is legal in 20 states. So yes it still is a big deal when people can go to jail for it.

Look, I was a long time user of pot myself. I did have the will power not to let it cost me jobs or get me arrested. Pot use runs rampant in both sides of my family. I have seen both sides of what the use of pot can do. It may not be physical addictive but it is very mental addictive. So much so it cost jobs, stops educations, makes jail time for those who get caught, can lead to some who just dont care about anything but staying high. That includes losing their kids to the state.

Now is that dramatical enough for you?

Yes very dramatical, indeed, like anything if Marijuana or anything, alcohol, porn, food, pain meds, gambling, cigarettes, ect, is abused it can lead to ALL you have stated! In most cases it doesn't!! Also I think you said it was Illegal in all but 2 states? Thats wrong it is now legal in 8 states, Nevada, Colorado, California, Massachusetts, Alaska,  Maine, Oregon, Washington, & Washington DC. IMO it will become legal in many more. IMO weed is not that high of a factor of what you have stated.  Honestly ALCOHOL is probably is more of a culprit than weed. We all have our own opinons! We may not agree on this topic, but I usually value your Football opinons. 

[DougDew]

Athletes smoking pot is no big deal.  Smoking anything that should be legal is no big deal.  I wouldn't mind if Andrew Luck smoked a cigarette after a game. 

 

In fact, he should smoke a cigarette during the post game press conference. 

 

Nobody should think of him as a slouch for it.  After all, cigs are legal, and he's just trying to chill after a stressful game. What's the big deal.

[crazycolt1]

4 hours ago, DougDew said:

Athletes smoking pot is no big deal.  Smoking anything that should be legal is no big deal.  I wouldn't mind if Andrew Luck smoked a cigarette after a game. 

 

In fact, he should smoke a cigarette during the post game press conference. 

 

Nobody should think of him as a slouch for it.  After all, cigs are legal, and he's just trying to chill after a stressful game. What's the big deal.

What you seem to keep overlooking is weed is not legal for the players in the NFL. It makes no difference what your opinion is.

When a NFL player signs a contract he agrees not to use illegal drugs. Is there something you are missing?

 

[aaron11]

the league did say they would look into their stance on weed 

 

its ironic that suspending player for failed tests makes the nfl look worse than it would if they didnt test for it and make it a big deal

 

 

[Jason_]

4 hours ago, DougDew said:

 

In fact, he should smoke a cigarette during the post game press conference. 

 

 

I would figuratively if that happened

[crazycolt1]

1 hour ago, aaron11 said:

the league did say they would look into their stance on weed 

 

its ironic that suspending player for failed tests makes the nfl look worse than it would if they didnt test for it and make it a big deal

 

 

?  Looking into it didn't change the policy.

Look, the NFL players who are not smart enough to get around the testing are just plain stupid. Plus the players who  have been suspended are even more stupid because they have been caught at least 2 or 3 times before. Any player who has already been caught and still risks his paycheck don't have sense enough to pour pee out of a boot. (old saying but still effective)

The NFL and it's policy on weed is already pretty lax. They make it doable as long as you are smart enough to figure it out.

[aaron11]

8 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

?  Looking into it didn't change the policy.

Look, the NFL players who are not smart enough to get around the testing are just plain stupid. Plus the players who  have been suspended are even more stupid because they have been caught at least 2 or 3 times before. Any player who has already been caught and still risks his paycheck don't have sense enough to pour pee out of a boot. (old saying but still effective)

The NFL and it's policy on weed is already pretty lax. They make it doable as long as you are smart enough to figure it out.

they are still looking into it https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/07/31/nfl-offers-to-work-with-players-union-to-study-marijuana-for-pain-management/?utm_term=.7aadc5b8944e

 

its about how they might possibly allow it as a pain reliever, not necessarily for recreation

 

we all know thats a pretty fine line when it comes to weed though

[Dingus McGirt]

9 hours ago, J@son said:

 

I would figuratively if that happened

Luck's a smoker? Lol

[crazycolt1]

31 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

they are still looking into it https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2017/07/31/nfl-offers-to-work-with-players-union-to-study-marijuana-for-pain-management/?utm_term=.7aadc5b8944e

 

its about how they might possibly allow it as a pain reliever, not necessarily for recreation

 

we all know thats a pretty fine line when it comes to weed though

That's going to be tough in NFL. The way these players get hurt they will be high 24-7. lol

[Jason_]

37 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

Luck's a smoker? Lol

 

Highly unlikely, which is why it would be that much more amusing to smoke a cig during his post game presser lol

[OLD FAN MAN]

14 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

What you seem to keep overlooking is weed is not legal for the players in the NFL. It makes no difference what your opinion is.

When a NFL player signs a contract he agrees not to use illegal drugs. Is there something you are missing?

 

i concur