2017 NFL Combine Skills Day #1(3/3/17) (RB, OL, ST)

[OffensivelyPC]

 

5 minutes ago, SaturdayAllDay said:

I was under the impression that the unofficial time wasnt as relevant, as there is a margin of error with the clocking, hence the need for the adjustment to the official time. Otherwise wouldnt the scouts personally clocked times be the most relevant?

Not necessarily.  Scouts clocked times are relevant.  A guy that improves his time at a pro day, for instance, comes into play.  That's even if he ran in the combine.

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Seems like both my favourites(Hunt and Jamaal Williams) didn't do too good at the 40.

[OffensivelyPC]

1 minute ago, stitches said:

Seems like both my favourites(Hunt and Jamaal Williams) didn't do too good at the 40.

Surprising for Hunt, I thought he looked faster on tape.  I thought he would test under 4.6.  That said, I kind of expected Jamaal to run a slower time.  4.6 isn't horrible, though.  But really the problem for Jamaal is his lateral mobility and acceleration as far as running goes.

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Just now, OffensivelyPC said:

Surprising for Hunt, I thought he looked faster on tape.  I thought he would test under 4.6.  That said, I kind of expected Jamaal to run a slower time.  4.6 isn't horrible, though.  But really the problem for Jamaal is his lateral mobility and acceleration as far as running goes.

He appeared 8 lbs heavier than he was at the Senior Bowl. Maybe the weight is impacting him?

[Colts_Fan12]

Why does the vertical mean anything at the RB position seems pointless. I'd much rather you be able to run and I'd want you to be strong and fast Fournette is gonna be fine. 

[OffensivelyPC]

Just now, stitches said:

He appeared 8 lbs heavier than he was at the Senior Bowl. Maybe the weight is impacting him?

Maybe a little bit, but the tape I watched on him was from this year (not sure of his weight then).  I'm not sure it has a substantial impact, but I'm no expert.

[OffensivelyPC]

Just now, Colts_Fan12 said:

Why does the vertical mean anything at the RB position seems pointless. I'd much rather you be able to run and I'd want you to be strong and fast Fournette is gonna be fine. 

It means a lot more than you think.  It's an indication of explosiveness.  For running backs, it indicates things like burst, ability to drive a pile, and how well they can deliver a blow, running the ball or in pass protection.

[Colts_Fan12]

1 minute ago, OffensivelyPC said:

It means a lot more than you think.  It's an indication of explosiveness.  For running backs, it indicates things like burst, ability to drive a pile, and how well they can deliver a blow, running the ball or in pass protection.

Yeah none of those things will be a problem for Fournette lol that's for sure 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, Colts_Fan12 said:

Yeah none of those things will be a problem for Fournette lol that's for sure 

He will be the 1st back taken in the Draft, no way he lasts outside of the top 10.

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At least my O-line favourite is doing well at the combine.

[Colts_Fan12]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

He will be the 1st back taken in the Draft, no way he lasts outside of the top 10.

I don't think he lasts past 5 lol

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[OffensivelyPC]

7 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

Yeah none of those things will be a problem for Fournette lol that's for sure 

No, I don't think he will have a problem with it either.  I'm not saying its the sole indicator, just AN indicator.  There's plenty more that goes into a players complete profile.

[coltsfanatic24]

For RB I like Jeremy McNichols in the 3rd round. He has great vision, good speed, and can catch the ball out of the backfield.  

[krunk]

Dalvin Cook improved to the 4.49

[WarGhost21]

Very impressed with Fournette so far. Hasn't dropped a pass yet if I'm not mistaken.

[OffensivelyPC]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

Dalvin Cook improved to the 4.49

I've been out 30 minutes, did I miss anything?  Surprises in drills?

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Man, Bolles is a freak.

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27 minutes ago, OffensivelyPC said:

I've been out 30 minutes, did I miss anything?  Surprises in drills?

McCaffrey destroyed the on-field drills. Was catching badly thrown balls like it's nothing, ball sticking to his hands. Sharp and smooth.

[krunk]

Joe Williams appears to be pretty fast

[twfish]

5 minutes ago, stitches said:

McCaffrey destroyed the on-field drills. Was catching badly thrown balls like it's nothing, ball sticking to his hands. Sharp and smooth.

He's gunna be special I'm telling you all lol

[BCoop]

5 minutes ago, twfish said:

He's gunna be special I'm telling you all lol

 

I could live with McCaffrey as a 3rd down back and slot guy in different formations. I'd also line him up in the backfield on zone runs with 3 or 4 guys split wide. 

 

I'm just afraid our staff would try to run him between the tackles with loaded boxes and that would be a complete waste of talent.

 

 

[Dingus McGirt]

McCaffrey...has Patriots written all over him.  LOL

[Shive]

25 minutes ago, krunk said:

Joe Williams appears to be pretty fast

He's definitely fast, but I have too many questions about him off the field. Previously arrested and charged with credit card fraud, then suddenly retired and only came back after multiple RB's went down (did well on the field when he came back though). Just makes me questions his decision-making off the field and his heart/dedication to the game.

 

15 minutes ago, Dingus McGirt said:

McCaffrey...has Patriots written all over him.  LOL

We all hope not...

[twfish]

36 minutes ago, BCoop said:

 

I could live with McCaffrey as a 3rd down back and slot guy in different formations. I'd also line him up in the backfield on zone runs with 3 or 4 guys split wide. 

 

I'm just afraid our staff would try to run him between the tackles with loaded boxes and that would be a complete waste of talent.

 

 

IMHO there aren't as many up the gut RB in this draft that get me excited. Fournette Foreman and Jamaal Williams are ones that pop to my head. I think Mcaffrey Kamara and cook will all succeed in a zone run and not in short yardage and goal line runs. We were wanting to switch to a zone run scheme but I don't think frank would find success there but maybe one of these guys?

[dgambill]

4 hours ago, Dingus McGirt said:

McCaffrey...has Patriots written all over him.  LOL

I see SF top of Rd 2. Shannahan offense and Lynch's connection.

[Freeupfreeney]

12 hours ago, BCoop said:

 

I could live with McCaffrey as a 3rd down back and slot guy in different formations. I'd also line him up in the backfield on zone runs with 3 or 4 guys split wide. 

 

I'm just afraid our staff would try to run him between the tackles with loaded boxes and that would be a complete waste of talent.

 

 

Why. 

 

Why does everybody think this dude can't go between the tackles. 

 

Has he not proven himself. 

 

His weakness is not that he can get you a 4 yard average between the tackles, he's just not a bruiser.

 

I agree running this guys at his size 15-20 times between the tackles would bring some physical abuse to his body rather than the opposite from a giy like Bradshaw, but dammit he can do it.

 

He's not a punk, he's not scared or shys away from contact. Give the dude some credit.

 

Reggie Bush had no problems running between the tackles in college, but when he got to the pros, they never ran any of those plays. Shoot at SC he was nearly running some guys over. 

 

They tried to run him on sweeps and slants and even tough he was super fast, he didnt have guys like demarcus ware and ray lewis closing in on him. 

 

Im making a comparison because i don't think its fair to ASSUME this guys can't run between the tackles. 

 

But I think it's unfair to ask a guys his size to do it more than 10 times a game. But he's no punk, he can get those short yards if he needs to and if oline can push. 

 

Btw I'm not arguing. But I think man can handle running between the tackles, hell be okay.

  

[AZColt11]

On 3/3/2017 at 8:17 AM, Defjamz26 said:

That's not really true. I've heard from GMs and analysts that their boards are pretty much set before the combine, and they don't really change much. I forgot who said it but it was a scout who said something like "When you hear that a guy has shot up draft boards, it's really just the media and casual fans catching up. Really the scouts and GMs are already high on those guys". It's always about the tape. But Grigson said that unless a guy runs a really bad 40, bombs interviews, or his medical check comes back negative that draft boards really don't change all that much.

I hope you are right!  It sure seemed like Grigs bit on some of these guys.  But who really knows?