Green Bay (+7) at Arizona (1-16-16)

[oldunclemark]

8:15 EST.....Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth on NBC

uppers 50s, low 60s........over-under 50

 

Prime time showdown with MVP Aaron Rodgers (347 of 572, 3,821 yards, 31 TDs, 8 INTs) forced to go without WR DeVontae Adams (50 catches, 482 yards)

Top WR Randall Cobb (79 catches, 829 yards) will team with old-timer James Jones (50 catches, 890 yards, 8 TDs)

RB Eddie Lacy (187 carries, 758 yards)  is ready to go...as is injured CB Sam Shields and OT David Bahktari

 

Arizona QB Carson Palmer (342 of 537, 4,671 yards, 35 Tds, 11 INTs)  has old man Larry Fitzgerald (109 catches, 1,215 yards) as his top receiver.

Cardinals have only 30 QB sacks but ex-Colt star Dwight Freeney has eight of them.

Arizona beat Green bay 38-8 3 weeks ago (Cards got 9 sacks in that game) but lost to Seattle 36-6 two weeks ago.

Cardinals are healthy and they will know by game time whether Seattle has beaten Carolina...If that happens, Arizona could play the NFC title game at home.

Cardinals average 6.4 yards per play, No.2 in the NFL

 

////This just has to be a high scoring game and conditions favor a shootout. Top QBs is a winner-take-all game should light up the scoreboard....

I like Green Bay getting seven points. Rodgers will be throwing until the clock runs out and a 13-point lead could become a 6-point lead in the final minute.

The best bet is the over....and for the game to last 4 hours

 

 

 

 

 

[ColtRider]

 

Arizona wins this game. I'll pass on picking the spread.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I like Arizona and I think they'll win EASY.

[2006Coltsbestever]

The Packers were my NFC Champion before the season started but they are about to get smoked. Cards win this 30-17.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Please create the Broncos Thread.

[BloodyChamp]

Listened to ESPN Radio on the way home last night (I'm not usually into self harm fetishes I promise) and they were picking the Packers. I could have met them halfway if they were saying something like the Cardinals weren't even gameplanning for anything different from the other week, hard to beat any team twice, etc. But it was all "O Aaron Rodgers and his comeback against Washington O Aaron Rodgers putting the team on his back O Aaron Rodgers etc etc etc." 

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, BloodyChamp said:

Listened to ESPN Radio on the way home last night (I'm not usually into self harm fetishes I promise) and they were picking the Packers. I could have met them halfway if they were saying something like the Cardinals weren't even gameplanning for anything different from the other week, hard to beat any team twice, etc. But it was all "O Aaron Rodgers and his comeback against Washington O Aaron Rodgers putting the team on his back O Aaron Rodgers etc etc etc." 

I had GB vs Denver in the SB before the year started but I cant see how they beat the Cards.

[oldunclemark]

16 hours ago, LJpalmbeacher said:

I like Arizona and I think they'll win EASY.

Folks seem, to think so but Id take Aaron Rodgers over anybody in a close game

[jvan1973]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

Folks seem, to think so but Id take Aaron Rodgers over anybody in a close game

It wasn't real close last time

[oldunclemark]

No doubt.........Packers got jacked up 3 weeks ago..\

..but their O-line is better than it was then and I think the bye week helps defense much more than offense..

 

Arizona may start slowly ....but Carson Palmer has been very, very good almost all season

[Jules]

I think Arizona wins but I would not bet the house either it's a major blowout like last time. People thought the Seahawks would cream the Vikings again and it was close. You just never know.....it's the playoffs. I think we have some battles coming somewhere this weekend....just hard to predict where and when.

 

[oldunclemark]

     There's a lot of pressure on the Cards. Key players are older and they are heavily favored..

.....I dont want to face Rodgers with the season on the line

[Surge89]

17 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

Folks seem, to think so but Id take Aaron Rodgers over anybody in a close game

 

I wouldn't.

 

I'd take Rodgers if they were leading for 3 quarters.  But no way in heck would I take him if he's needed for a comeback.

 

There are maybe... 20 other QB's I'd rather have... even Eli would be there before Rodgers.

 

And if it's a back in forth game I'd still take 15 or so others lol.  He just doesn't have it.  He doesn't throw interceptions and he is deadly accurate but he never takes risks.  The passers who are willing to take risks have magic and Rodgers isn't one of em.  Look at Favre... Hey may have thrown his share of INT's but you could never count him out 14 points down in the 4th.

[oldunclemark]

8 hours ago, Surge89 said:

I'd take Rodgers if they were leading for 3 quarters.  But no way in heck would I take him if he's needed for a comeback.

 

There are maybe... 20 other QB's I'd rather have... even Eli would be there before Rodgers.

 

 

You'd lose a lot....GB seems ready to play and they have the MVP

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Rodgers is going to crap on the cardinals defense. I'm predicting a packers win, close or not. Doesn't matter. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 minute ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Rodgers is going to crap on the cardinals defense. I'm predicting a packers win, close or not. Doesn't matter. 

Pack was my before season SB pick in the NFC, Broncos was AFC but I don't think they win this game. Their Defense is very suspect.

[BloodyChamp]

19 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

You'd lose a lot....GB seems ready to play and they have the MVP

When does the losing streak begin? Because the only times that hasn't been the case has been again the Lions and Redskins.

[Jules]

Beautiful TD before by the Cardinals.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

22 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Pack was my before season SB pick in the NFC, Broncos was AFC but I don't think they win this game. Their Defense is very suspect.

I agree but I don't trust any team to play well with a bye week unless it's the Patriots. I think the panthers and cards are gonna be one&done 

[Jules]

Whoa, Rodgers using those wheels...........

 

 

 

 

[Gramz]

Yeah, I'm thinking Cards take this one.

[Jules]

Just now, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

I agree but I don't trust any team to play well with a bye week unless it's the Patriots. I think the panthers and cards are gonna be one&done 

 

I been more worried about the Panthers then the Cards. I would hate to go 15-1 and be at home and the team that waltzes in is the luckiest NFC team ever created aka the Seahawks.

[BloodyChamp]

The Packers have came to play, can't take that away this time. It's a good thing the Cards have such good coaching. I have a feeling any other team wouldn't have been coached up enough to take this game as seriously as they should then got blown out.

[oldunclemark]

the refs said there were fouls on both teams and then he called 2 on Arizona

[BloodyChamp]

And the refs are going to do what they can in a Packers primetime game as always.

[oldunclemark]

Patrick Peterson 100-yard return called back

[oldunclemark]

Just now, BloodyChamp said:

And the refs are going to do what they can in a Packers primetime game as always.

Did you hear the ref say there were fouls on both sides?

[oldunclemark]

I don't even recognize some of these Pack receivers

[Surge89]

44 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

You'd lose a lot....GB seems ready to play and they have the MVP

 

I'd lose a lot? Do you have any idea what Rodgers record is when losing late?  

 

Rogers has lost a lot in crunch time... so I guess ya if I chose him I'd lose a lot 

[oldunclemark]

7-3 Cards..good game

[BloodyChamp]

6 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

Did you hear the ref say there were fouls on both sides?

1 of which wouldn't have negated a TD.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

21 minutes ago, Jules said:

 

I been more worried about the Panthers then the Cards. I would hate to go 15-1 and be at home and the team that waltzes in is the luckiest NFC team ever created aka the Seahawks.

And yet, you and I both know that the Seahawks defense is going play phenomenal and Wilson will make a few amazing scramble/lucky plays that will keep them right in the game.

[Jules]

7 minutes ago, oldunclemark said:

7-3 Cards..good game

 

Solid NFC game so far. 

 

But, I keep going back to the Pats thread since well.......gotta feed the addiction at times.

[oldunclemark]

Cobb knocked out...GB is down their top 2 WRs

[oldunclemark]

16 minutes ago, Surge89 said:

 

I'd lose a lot? Do you have any idea what Rodgers record is when losing late?  

 

Rogers has lost a lot in crunch time... so I guess ya if I chose him I'd lose a lot 

Who cares?

I know his record overall...,he isn't losing late that much .....You know he was the MVP of the NFL last year

This year 31 TDs..8 INts...10 wins

I'll take Rodgers.,.you can have everybody else...

[BloodyChamp]

1 minute ago, oldunclemark said:

Who cares?

People who cares about winning. 

[oldunclemark]

     Rodgers wins most of the time...as you know

[oldunclemark]

  Those are Skip Bayless stats....He'll tell you that Tim Tebow was No, 1in the NF if you only count the final 5 minute s of the game. If you are good, you aren't behind much and your 'come from behind' stats are irrelevant

You cant parse the game..How does a QB do all the time.

If you win as much as Rodgers does, his come-from-behind stats fall in the 'who cares'; bin

 

7-6 now....strong half for GB

[BloodyChamp]

And those are unc stats...wins against all the easy teams and loses to the hard teams which translates into a perfect who cares rating.

[oldunclemark]

9 hours ago, Surge89 said:

There are maybe... 20 other QB's I'd rather have... even Eli would be there before Rodgers.

And if it's a back in forth game I'd still take 15 or so others lol.  He just doesn't have it.

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halftime..Arizona 7, Green Bay 6