Confirmed: Robert Mathis out for season with torn Achilles (merge)

[PrincetonTiger]

You go with Newsome and a 'healthy Cam Johnson too......there was a reason we kept extra OLBs.  Lets play football guys, and 98 will be working and rooting for ya!

You go with Newsome and a 'healthy Cam Johnson too......there was a reason we kept extra OLBs.  Lets play football guys, and 98 will be working and rooting for ya!

I would also use more inside Blitzes with McNary and Muamba

[JlynRN]

Oh, I agree many people have trouble accepting the truth when its hard or difficult. 

 

Just give it up and admit you are really a broncos or a pats fan in disguise, because I can see right thru your thinly veiled disguise !!!

[CR91]

You don't trade a first rounder for a guy who can't play til mid-November. The other issues are auxiliary. 

 

Im thinking long-term. this would also give werner enough time to get use to rushing without really much help

[PrincetonTiger]

Im thinking long-term. this would also give werner enough time to get use to rushing without really much help

no

[Superman]

I wouldn't trade a first. What I would do is offer a conditional pick- if after his suspension he can rack up atleast 4 or 5 sacks- give them a 3rd, if not a 4th.

 

That makes more sense, but you have to get past the auxiliary issues first. And for this guy, that might not be possible.

[CR91]

I wouldn't trade a first. What I would do is offer a conditional pick- if after his suspension he can rack up atleast 4 or 5 sacks- give them a 3rd, if not a 4th.

 

smith is an all-pro. no way they'll only want a third round pick

[Superman]

Im thinking long-term. this would also give werner enough time to get use to rushing without really much help

 

You don't give up a first rounder for that situation. 

[ProblChld32]

You go with Newsome and a 'healthy Cam Johnson too......there was a reason we kept extra OLBs.  Lets play football guys, and 98 will be working and rooting for ya!

 

Cam was injured and missed the rest of the game sunday any updates on him?

[Drew1023]

I'd like to congrat Houston Texans for winning AFC South,

 

:-(((((((((((((

 

This isn't happening.  The Colts fielded a good team last night against one of the best teams in the NFL if not the best team.  Just because there is no hope of making a Super bowl run doesn't mean that the Colts can't still win the division and probably come away with a 10-6 record.

[CR91]

You don't give up a first rounder for that situation. 

 

you do when youre desperate 

[JlynRN]

How about no where is number 12 going?.

 

Much more rules friendly.....JlynRN......you were just emphasizing...not yelling....you may be now

 

LOL and some people who we ALL know, who shall remain nameless, can't get it thru their undisguised hatred for the Colts and can't see that without emphasizing my point !!!  Sure am glad we have an ignore feature, I haven't used it yet, but I'm about to  ROFL.  And no, not you Brent  LOL

[Drew1023]

Just give it up and admit you are really a broncos or a pats fan in disguise, because I can see right thru your thinly veiled disguise !!!

 

No, I am just a realistic Colts fan that isn't delusional. I am quite aware I am in the vast minority.

[GoColtsGo5150]

smith is an all-pro. no way they'll only want a third round pick

Ray Rice was a pro bowler and all pro and he was cut straight up. I would atleast see if they were interested (49ers.)

[CR91]

Ray Rice was a pro bowler and all pro and he was cut straight up. I would atleast see if they were interested (49ers.)

 

different circumstances 

[Gavin]

Gonna take a hell of a lot more then a pass rusher who was already suspended for 4 games for the Texans to win the South lol, In the short term this changes nothing, Cam Johnson is more the IMMEDIATE concern because if he is down for any length of time then we are down to 4 pass rushers, We may ride this out for a couple weeks before anything is done

[mattceinicram]

This isn't happening.  The Colts fielded a good team last night against one of the best teams in the NFL if not the best team.  Just because there is no hope of making a Super bowl run doesn't mean that the Colts can't still win the division and probably come away with a 10-6 record.

"No hope" that is quite subjective and hard to quantify.  Less hope? Sure.  As far as I can see it, even the Bills have some hope in winning the Super Bowl.

[GoColtsGo5150]

That makes more sense, but you have to get past the auxiliary issues first. And for this guy, that might not be possible.

That maybe true but we have a lot of players ( with varying degrees) with off the field problems before:

Montori Hughes

Da'rick Rogers

Hugh Thornton ( could be wrong)

Vontae Davis ( according to his draft profile)

 

If we have  a strong family unit- like it seems in Indy, hopefully his talent can outweight his problems.

[Drew1023]

"No hope" that is quite subjective and hard to quantify.  Less hope? Sure.  As far as I can see it, even the Bills have some hope in winning the Super Bowl.

 

You are correct, no realistic hope.  I suppose any team in the second week could win the Superbowl.

[Malakai432]

Big time bummer about Mathis, the Colts lack luster pass rush just got hit hard. Wish him a speedy recovery, wonder if Grigs will make a move........

[Superman]

No, I am just a realistic Colts fan that isn't delusional. I am quite aware I am in the vast minority.

 

So everyone else is delusional. Got it.

[mattceinicram]

You are correct, no realistic hope.  I suppose any team in the second week could win the Superbowl.

The Colts put up a very respectable fight against the AFC's best team in their own building without Mathis.  As far as I can see it, we are still a top 3 team in the conference with a very good shot of making a deep playoff run.  I would not be shocked at all to see us in the AFCCG.  I'm using logic, not delusion.

[BrentMc11]

I would also use more inside Blitzes with McNary and Muamba

i said the same thing in one of these threads  I said we need to come from everywhere.

 

I know this is not popular.  We may have more 4-3 in certain situations if we bring some undersized guys up.  By all means in disguise!!

[Superman]

you do when youre desperate 

 

No, you don't. That would be making a problem worse. You don't make decisions like this out of desperation.

[CR91]

No, you don't. That would be making a problem worse. You don't make decisions like this out of desperation.

 

we're looking at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to sacking the QB. we dont have anyone else execpt pray for werner to be consistent

[Superman]

That maybe true but we have a lot of players ( with varying degrees) with off the field problems before:

Montori Hughes

Da'rick Rogers

Hugh Thornton ( could be wrong)

Vontae Davis ( according to his draft profile)

 

If we have  a strong family unit- like it seems in Indy, hopefully his talent can outweight his problems.

 

I think Aldon Smith has been worse in the last 12-16 months than anyone we have on our roster. His issues are big, and they are repeat issues. Some of them haven't even really been focused on, like someone getting shot at a party at his home. I think he's a bad judgment kind of guy, and his mistakes are weighty, and he keeps making them.

 

If you take a comprehensive look at him and think you still want to take a chance on him, that's one thing. But I don't put him on the same level as those guys you mentioned. 

[Drew1023]

So everyone else is delusional. Got it.

 

Not everyone but many of the people here are as evidenced by the thread and all the people going on about how the Colts would blow out the Broncos.  Completely divorced from reality.

[Superman]

we're looking at the bottom of the barrel when it comes to sacking the QB. we dont have anyone else execpt pray for werner to be consistent

 

So get someone else. Just not Aldon Smith, and not for a first rounder.

 

Don't make it like I don't think any move for a pass rusher would make sense. I'm simply saying that you don't trade a first rounder for Aldon Smith, knowing full well that he can't play until Week 11. Desperation doesn't excuse bad decision making. That's what gets you stuck with Trent Richardson, and not having a first rounder.

[BrentMc11]

LOL and some people who we ALL know, who shall remain nameless, can't get it thru their undisguised hatred for the Colts and can't see that without emphasizing my point !!!  Sure am glad we have an ignore feature, I haven't used it yet, but I'm about to  ROFL.  And no, not you Brent  LOL

I would be sad  I still only have one person on ignore.....and I like his posts

[Superman]

Not everyone but many of the people here are as evidenced by the thread and all the people going on about how the Colts would blow out the Broncos.  Completely divorced from reality.

 

Yeah, all four of the people who said the Colts would blow out the Broncos.

 

You're here condemning an entire fan base, based on some exuberant fandom prior to a big game. If it makes you feel better about yourself, congratulations. To the rest of us, it makes you look rather petty.

[Buck Showalter]

Michael Sam wouldn't help our pass rush.

yeah, jokes...

[SteelCityColt]

 is mathis picture hanging on our stadium???...if so..another one bits the dust...they should really take Luck's down...like NOW....it's obvious that that's a curse....and they way the o-line barley can keep Luck upright too....i shutter to think....*knock on wood*

 

That's just pure chaff you're talking.. I can't wheat to see what the Oline does with a little playing time together. 

 

No need to be so close the curtains on the season yet, it's not as bad a picture as you think. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok I'm done 

[mattceinicram]

yeah, jokes...

I personally would love to have Sam.  I wanted him in the draft, and watching him in the preseason.  I want him even more now.  I don't know why he's being discussed as a replacement for Mathis, that is a bit absurd, but he would add quality rotational depth to our line.

[BOTT]

how much trouble can you possibly get in indy? please dont mention boyett. he was just an *

Yes, because Indy is filled with a bunch of strict Mormons and prohibition is still alive.

[Drew1023]

Yeah, all four of the people who said the Colts would blow out the Broncos.

 

You're here condemning an entire fan base, based on some exuberant fandom prior to a big game. If it makes you feel better about yourself, congratulations. To the rest of us, it makes you look rather petty.

 

The start of that thread was liked by 12 people not to mention all of the people that posted saying something similar.  I don't know where you got the number 4, can you at least try to be honest and use facts or am I asking too much from you.  I have a habit of doing that on this forum.

[CR91]

So get someone else. Just not Aldon Smith, and not for a first rounder.

 

Don't make it like I don't think any move for a pass rusher would make sense. I'm simply saying that you don't trade a first rounder for Aldon Smith, knowing full well that he can't play until Week 11. Desperation doesn't excuse bad decision making. That's what gets you stuck with Trent Richardson, and not having a first rounder.

 

oh boy here we go again with that. trent ran hard when he got the chance. this isnt an offense where hes gonna get 20 carries a game

[ProblChld32]

I think the Indy star he was working out on his own. I'm not sure on that though.

 

That would make sense i know they said he can still use team facilities while on suspension.

[SteelCityColt]

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.

 

But the right week to start sniffing glue! 

[GoColtsGo5150]

I think Aldon Smith has been worse in the last 12-16 months than anyone we have on our roster. His issues are big, and they are repeat issues. Some of them haven't even really been focused on, like someone getting shot at a party at his home. I think he's a bad judgment kind of guy, and his mistakes are weighty, and he keeps making them.

 

If you take a comprehensive look at him and think you still want to take a chance on him, that's one thing. But I don't put him on the same level as those guys you mentioned. 

I understand that Smith has a record longer than maybe all of the players I mentioned combined. If there are no other options than trading for him ( to me he's a last resort option unless we can get him for a 4th etc.) I personally liked the looks of Marcus Smith prior to the draft and since Chip Kelly has called him out ( might not be calling out ) to perform better, he could be someone to look at. 

[Superman]

The start of that thread was liked by 12 people not to mention all of the people that posted saying something similar.  I don't know where you got the number 4, can you at least try to be honest and use facts or am I asking too much from you.  I have a habit of doing that on this forum.

 

Okay, so I underestimated the number by 8. You're making it seem like everyone on the board and every Colts fan in general said the Colts would blow out the Broncos.

[Superman]

oh boy here we go again with that. trent ran hard when he got the chance. this isnt an offense where hes gonna get 20 carries a game

 

Are you saying giving up a first rounder for Trent Richardson was a good trade?

 

Don't "here we go again." I'm not a Trent basher. But it was a bad trade. And if you can't admit that, and want to see the team make a similarly bad trade, then we're too far apart. 

 

Again, you don't trade a first rounder for Aldon Smith, desperate or not.