Robert Mathis is Letting Brad Wells Have It

[corgi]

Also I don't know why I care, or am arguing about Wells or Jerry Hughes. I blame it on Monday, sorry all.

[Gavin]

I'm sure that was a $ thing. I have issue with a first round picks play being described as pretty good after he has been in the league a few years. I also get that had Hughes been on a 3-4 team the whole time as opposed to a 4-3 he probably would have been better. I just think he was drafted way too early, and into the wrong system. I've never been impressed with his play on the NFL level.

he was drafted to early and into the wrong system but ya cant blame him for where he is drafted or that he was drafted in the wrong system, That wasn't his choice

[Le Neon]

Mario Williams has half that on sacks alone

As Dustin stated above, Hughes has one of the best pass rushing efficiencies in the nfl. Williams is clearly the better player overall.

[Superman]

Even though Jerry Hughes is no longer a Colt, it continues to annoy me how people won't ever let him be judged on his merits on the field, rather than his draft status. Everyone knows he shouldn't have been drafted when and where he was drafted, but that's over and done with. He's played okay the past season and a half.  

 

Also, Brad Wells is a [insert derogatory name/insult here]. 

[The Fish]

Every time I see Jerry Hughes name, I have a Star Trek 2 moment, only it's Polian's name that echos off of the moon.

[Superman]

Every time I see Jerry Hughes name, I have a Star Trek 2 moment, only it's Polian's name that echos off of the moon.

 

[The Motto]

You can throw Andrew Mishler in the same boat as Brad Wells.  Both negative about anything and everything Colts, yet clueless about the game of football.  My dog has more knowledge than those two combined.  The only football either of them have played is with a Play Station controller in their hands.  I hate they represent the Colts in any fashion and wish it was a way to get both of them off the internet.  I hope both of them read this, you're both bums who live in your parents basements. 

[braveheartcolt]

I don't care where he was drafted, or how he is playing as a Bill, but he was one waste of a roster spot when he played for my team. Why this guy keeps cropping up here now is a mystery.....

[Zachris]

I don't care where he was drafted, or how he is playing as a Bill, but he was one waste of a roster spot when he played for my team. Why this guy keeps cropping up here now is a mystery.....

Because of people like you?

[braveheartcolt]

Because of people like you?

Oh, it's you again. Thanks for the comment. I know you really like me....

[LockeDown]

I don't need to watch tape to know some things.  I can tell if a pass rusher is good by how many sacks he gets.  If he only gets hurries, he will never be considered great. If he leads the league in sacks, he is great.   If Robert Mathis, completely undersized and undrafted, can lead the league in sacks, then surely someone who was drafted can do the same, let alone someone who was drafted in the first round.  Mathis simply out works and out hustles the next guy.  Hughes either doesn't hustle enough or isn't talented enough.

[Jason_]

I don't need to watch tape to know some things.  I can tell if a pass rusher is good by how many sacks he gets.  If he only gets hurries, he will never be considered great. If he leads the league in sacks, he is great.   If Robert Mathis, completely undersized and undrafted, can lead the league in sacks, then surely someone who was drafted can do the same, let alone someone who was drafted in the first round.  Mathis simply out works and out hustles the next guy.  Hughes either doesn't hustle enough or isn't talented enough.

 

Mathis was a 5th round pick

[Superman]

I don't need to watch tape to know some things.  I can tell if a pass rusher is good by how many sacks he gets.  If he only gets hurries, he will never be considered great. If he leads the league in sacks, he is great.   If Robert Mathis, completely undersized and undrafted, can lead the league in sacks, then surely someone who was drafted can do the same, let alone someone who was drafted in the first round.  Mathis simply out works and out hustles the next guy.  Hughes either doesn't hustle enough or isn't talented enough.

 

Mathis hustles more and is more talented than Jerry Hughes. I think we all know that. And Mathis was a 5th rounder, making the Hughes pick even worse for us.

 

But hurries matter. Maybe you're 2/10ths of a second slower to the QB, but if you're influencing the play, you have value. Much more value in actually getting the sack, but even an elite pass rusher only gets a sack on a small percentage of his rushes. Even if Mathis gets 20 sacks this year, that's gonna be something like 4% of his snaps.

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

Even though Jerry Hughes is no longer a Colt, it continues to annoy me how people won't ever let him be judged on his merits on the field, rather than his draft status. Everyone knows he shouldn't have been drafted when and where he was drafted, but that's over and done with. He's played okay the past season and a half.  

 

Also, Brad Wells is a [insert derogatory name/insult here]. 

Hughes honestly was drafted where he he was rated, a late 1st early 2nd RD pick. He probably needed to be in a 3/4 and wasn't, when given time here he played OK.  He was drafted IMO to take Mathis's place who was going to to need to be signed, I am sure Pollian thought he had another Mathis when he drafted him, but he wasn't and Frenney started to break down. I feel Hughes will never be great but will be serviceable, but IMO he is much better than Sheppard! I have been extremely UNDERWHELMED BY HIM.

[LockeDown]

Mathis hustles more and is more talented than Jerry Hughes. I think we all know that. And Mathis was a 5th rounder, making the Hughes pick even worse for us.

 

But hurries matter. Maybe you're 2/10ths of a second slower to the QB, but if you're influencing the play, you have value. Much more value in actually getting the sack, but even an elite pass rusher only gets a sack on a small percentage of his rushes. Even if Mathis gets 20 sacks this year, that's gonna be something like 4% of his snaps.

I thought he was undrafted. My bad.

Hurries matter, but Jerry Hughes apologists are making a case for him despite spectacular results. Heck, you can find average guys all day long but I wouldn't brag about it nor would I continue to elevate him as if the Colts made a poor decision getting rid of him. If Werner gets 10 hurries and zero sacks at seasons end, will any of you be happy with that?

[Superman]

Hughes honestly was drafted where he he was rated, a late 1st early 2nd RD pick. He probably needed to be in a 3/4 and wasn't, when given time here he played OK.  He was drafted IMO to take Mathis's place who was going to to need to be signed, I am sure Pollian thought he had another Mathis when he drafted him, but he wasn't and Frenney started to break down. I feel Hughes will never be great but will be serviceable, but IMO he is much better than Sheppard! I have been extremely UNDERWHELMED BY HIM.

 

When and where... The "where" being to Indianapolis, to play 4-3 end. I think Polian envisioned him as a Mathis type of player as well, but Mathis was a 5th rounder. Taking a late round tweener project and converting him is one thing. Using a first rounder is another, especially when you have needs at other positions and good players at those positions are available.

[Superman]

I thought he was undrafted. My bad.

Hurries matter, but Jerry Hughes apologists are making a case for him despite spectacular results. Heck, you can find average guys all day long but I wouldn't brag about it nor would I continue to elevate him as if the Colts made a poor decision getting rid of him. If Werner gets 10 hurries and zero sacks at seasons end, will any of you be happy with that?

 

You're looking for spectacular results to justify him being a serviceable player. That doesn't jive. These so-called Hughes apologists are just saying he's not an absolute bum, even though he's not a star. He's a decent hybrid edge defender and situational pass rusher.

 

Let Brad Wells tell it, Hughes should be taken out back and shot. There's no question he was a bad pick, but at a certain point -- I've said this a hundred times -- you have to stop evaluating a player on the basis of where he was drafted, and begin to evaluate him based on his performance on the field. The draft is over. To the Bills, Hughes is just another outside linebacker, not a former first round pick. And that's the way it should be.

 

To answer your question about Werner, a) he's already half a sack better than Hughes was as a rookie, and b) I would be disappointed if he doesn't get to the quarterback anymore than that. But that doesn't necessarily mean he's not a good pass rusher. To be honest, he's already had more of an impact than Hughes did as a rookie, and I think he clearly projects to be a better fit for us than Hughes was. I'll be kind of disappointed if he doesn't perform, but I know better than to marry a player's impact to his stats and nothing else.

[jvan1973]

I thought he was undrafted. My bad.

Hurries matter, but Jerry Hughes apologists are making a case for him despite spectacular results. Heck, you can find average guys all day long but I wouldn't brag about it nor would I continue to elevate him as if the Colts made a poor decision getting rid of him. If Werner gets 10 hurries and zero sacks at seasons end, will any of you be happy with that?

Depends how many games he is able to play

[dudeski]

actually Hughes did pretty well his last year with the Colts in the game he started, He got inconsistent playing time because staff was stuck on the idea of Freeney actually being good in this defense on a near every down basis (when he was healthy he should have been a 3rd down pass rush specialist only and had Hughes in on 1st and 2nd down)

hughes was always horrible here

[House]

Our fans are too nice lol.

[Restored]

there's a difference between being negative and trying to capitalize on being daring. Wells is the biggest tool to ever enter the sports blogging world. Between claiming to have "sources with the team" that knew the Colts were going to promote Tom Telesco to GM to saying the 1998 Colts were better than the 2012 Colts, Wells has proven himself to be what he is. A tool.

[Ohio Colt]

I like Brad Wells. He's made a name for himself, he's done something right.

[jriddy5000son]

Ugh Wells

[jvan1973]

I like Brad Wells. He's made a name for himself, he's done something right.

So has skip bayless.. I'm guessing you like him too..

[BOTT]

I like Brad Wells. He's made a name for himself, he's done something right.

You have low standards

[SteelCityColt]

You have low standards

Maybe it was 3AM at the bloggers ball and he was feeling lonely?

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

When and where... The "where" being to Indianapolis, to play 4-3 end. I think Polian envisioned him as a Mathis type of player as well, but Mathis was a 5th rounder. Taking a late round tweener project and converting him is one thing. Using a first rounder is another, especially when you have needs at other positions and good players at those positions are available.

I think Pollian thought he would put on weight when coming out I think he was listed at 255 & looked a little skinny?

[Superman]

I think Pollian thought he would put on weight when coming out I think he was listed at 255 & looked a little skinny?

 

He always projected as a tweener, more ideal for 3-4 OLB than 4-3 end. And he was stuck on the bench behind two of the best pass rushers in the league. Ideally, you want your first round pick to be able to contribute, if not start, right away.

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

He always projected as a tweener, more ideal for 3-4 OLB than 4-3 end. And he was stuck on the bench behind two of the best pass rushers in the league. Ideally, you want your first round pick to be able to contribute, if not start, right away.

 

Agree Pollians last drafts he tried to get too cute, finding guys to take eventually leaving starters, IMO the 3 centers in 1 draft, Pollack being the first one??